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原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/105808/

IBT : 2007-04-15#1
随着我们讨论,引用和更改的增多,帖子越来越不适合观看了,在这里我暂作一个目录,方便大家查找
(注:红色字楼层是最终文章所在.另有一些散砖这里不一一检举了,请各自挨砸人员自行珍藏)
( ?嗦:各位写手请不断更新你的原文所在楼层,因为只有它出现目录里,这样也方便各位拍砖修的兄弟姐妹下手:)
issue
第一页 1层 IBT(1)原文
第一页 8层 Zznn(1)原文

第三页 54层 紫竹林(1)原文
第三页 55层 IBT对Zznn拍砖(1)
第三页 57层 IBT试图对紫竹林下手,未果

第五页 97层 Zznn(1)原文

第六页 106层 IBT(2)原文
第六页 115层 小马甲对Zznn拍砖(1)
第六页 118层 Zznn对IBT拍砖(2)


第七页 131-140 08对Zznn(1)点评

第八页 141(2,5) 08对Zznn(1)点评
第八页 148,157 08对IBT(1)点评http://post.iask.ca/canadameet/topic/105808&page=8

第九页165 08对IBT(1)首段改写  

第11页202(6,9) 08对Zznn(1)点评  
第11页213 马甲MM对IBT(1)点评  
第11页214 紫竹林(2)原文

第12页 Zznn(2)原文(222)
第12页 08对Zznn(2)点评 新鲜(227-9,232,237)

第13页 08对Zznn(1)点评 新鲜(243-9)
第13页 马甲MM对IBT(1)再点评 新鲜(259)

第14页 IBT重写(2)原文(261)



reference(赞助商Beijing2008)
第一页 5,17层 tacit experience
第二页 29层 knowledge management
第四页 69,75层 codification expicit
第五页 99,100层 sophisticated
第六页 101层 sophisticated
第九页 167-169 questionnaire,survey & sampling
第十页 200层 skill与knowledge比较
第13页252层 national curriculum







先给出题目,要求对给出的题目(一个存在多种立场的是非问题)提出自己的观点(可保留性支持,保留性反对,全面支持,全面反对或者干脆骑墙,:wdb5: ),并提供论据支持自己的立场。

题目1:The depth of knowledge to be gained from books is much richer and broader than what can be learned from direct experience.


俺的第一篇,欢迎大家拍砖(俺先准备铁锅,别砸漏就行,回头做饭还得用呢),同时更欢迎大家参与,PK(也给俺一个拍砖机会:)
补充:俺这篇是保留性支持。
豁出去啦,啥也不管,俺这就贴啦
(红色表示更改处,紫色表示未解决,盼望大家对此提出自己的见解)

Books and direct(因为书通常指indirect experience) experience are the two main resources that we can gain knowledge from, but which one can broaden our sight more (bring us the depth of knowledge richer and broaderbring sb. sth.,后面不能再接宾补)? Maybe someone prefers(忘加s) direct experiencehowever(连词使用不当,原:while, on the whole ,I (大小写错误)will choose books(或改成I, however, will choose books.更佳). Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want through looking up in books, the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.

First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals a book, especially a professional book, teaches us a(没有冠词)certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, from direct experience, what we did is only what we get(just by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did). For example, if we learn botany science(没有science,表达错误) from the text book, we can know from the appearance of plants to the inner fabric; because experts in this field (竟将field写成period)have researched them thoroughlly. Unfortunately, from our own direct observations we can only get some general information, for example, data on the growth trends of the plants, since we have no sophisticated equipments and advanced research methods as scientists do.(将08改后的句子和我的句子一并贴在这,比较,尤注意斜黑体字部分的错误Unfortunately, from our own direct experience maybe we can get just the shallow acquaintance because we have not complex equipments and advanced researching methods like those scientists do to help us get more knowledge. )

Then, the same thing happens in the breadth we gain knowledge from books and experience. It is exactly as people always say: everyone's time and energy are limited, so it is impossible that one person can have the whole experience in every field. To the contray, a book just like extending your life, because the(需要吗?) people preceding you have done what your need to do for you and you do nothing but look up the book(look it up in the book?)and take(需要添加it?) in mind. I dare not imagine if we get (obtain) knowledge not from books but only from direct experience all the way, then maybe now the humanbeing is(需要虚拟语态?) still at the p(P?)aleolithic age; because everyone's life spent on learning the rudimental knowledge from his own direct experience, but not standing on the shoulder of Giants.

Admittedly, always depending on books sometimes is also limited; Because society is always developing, and only learning from the book, in which the knowledge is all confirmed, (是非限定性定语从句吗,用加逗号吗) without finding new things from your(one's?)own experience will stop this developing. However, comparing the knowledge in books to one's experience, whether in depth or in breadth, the latter can not be at an advantageous position. In other words, the depth of knowledge to be gained from books is much richer and broader than what can be learned from dierct experience.


多谢各位兄弟姐妹父老乡亲捧场,深 深 鞠躬:)

angelonduty : 2007-04-15#2
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支持!
俺下午要带闺女去医院复诊,回来再研究您的大作.

IBT : 2007-04-15#3
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楼上好人,俺站起来再鞠一躬

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#4
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先给出题目,要求对给出的题目(一个存在多种立场的是非问题)提出自己的观点(可保留性支持,保留性反对,全面支持,全面反对或者干脆骑墙,:wdb5: ),并提供论据支持自己的立场。

题目1:The depth of knowledge to be gained from books is much richer and broader than what can be learned from direct experience.


俺的第一篇,欢迎大家拍砖(俺先准备铁锅,别砸漏就行,回头做饭还得用呢),同时更欢迎大家参与,PK(也给俺一个拍砖机会:)
补充:俺这篇是保留性支持。
豁出去啦,啥也不管,俺这就贴啦

Books and experience are the two main resources that we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefer direct experience, while, On the whole, i will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want through looking up in books, the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.

First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals a book, especially a professional book, teaches us an certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, just by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did. For example, even like our education, if we learn botany from the text book, we can know from the appearance of plants to the inner fabric; because experts in this period have research them throughlly. unfortunately, from our own direct experience maybe we can get just the shallow acquaintance because we have not complex equipments and advanced researching methods like those scientists do to help us get more knowledge.

Then, the same thing happens in the breadth we gain knowledge from books and experience. It is exactly as people always say: everyone's time and energy are limited, so it is impossible that one person can have the whole experience in every field. To the contray, a book just like extending your life, because the people preceding you have done what your need to do for you and you do nothing but look up the book and take in mind. I dare not imagine if we get knowledge not from books but only from direct experience all the way, then maybe now the humanbeing is still at the paleolithic age; because everyone's life spent on learning the rudimental knowledge from his own direct experience, but not standing on the shoulder of Giants.

Admittedly, always depending on books sometimes is also limited; Because society is always developing, and only learning from the book in which the knowledge is all confirmed without finding new things from your own experience will stop this developing. However, comparing the knowledge in books to one's experience, whether in depth or in breadth, the latter can not be at an advantageous position. In other words, the depth of knowledge to be gained from books is much richer and broader than what can be learned from dierct experience.


多谢各位兄弟姐妹父老乡亲捧场,深 深 鞠躬:)

写得不错!

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#5
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Direct experience generally denotes experience gained through immediate sense perception. Many philosophical systems hold that knowledge or skills gained through direct experience cannot be fully put into words.

You cannot grasp it; Nor can you get rid of it. In not being able to get it, you get it. When you speak, it is silent; When you are silent, it speaks.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#6
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LZ,俺一定认真拜读,争取近日拿出作品
先加SW

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#7
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总得来讲你写的很好,英文写作就是主题明确,然后是用EVIDENCES来SUPPORT你的观点.只是有些拼写和大小写TYPO等小小错.
经过北美学校训练就是不一样.

Maybe someone prefer direct experience, while, On the whole, i will choose books. 大小写,

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#8
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最好是有三个段落来支持你的观点,那就更好了

IBT : 2007-04-16#9
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Direct experience generally denotes experience gained through immediate sense perception. Many philosophical systems hold that knowledge or skills gained through direct experience cannot be fully put into words.

You cannot grasp it; Nor can you get rid of it. In not being able to get it, you get it. When you speak, it is silent; When you are silent, it speaks(这话真棒,透着禅机).

:wdb17: 啊,我真的一点没有在意这个词,需要揣摩
其实确实应该考虑要说经验直接experience就行了,没必要再加direct了:wdb5:
这样说我是不是建立在一个错误的基础上了啊:wdb5:
整个都错

IBT : 2007-04-16#10
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LZ,俺一定认真拜读,争取近日拿出作品
先加SW
:wdb11: 言出必行啊,我这可记住哪

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#11
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总得来讲你写的很好,英文写作就是主题明确,然后是用EVIDENCES来SUPPORT你的观点.只是有些拼写和大小写TYPO等小小错.
经过北美学校训练就是不一样.

Maybe someone prefer direct experience, while, On the whole, i will choose books. 大小写,

偶没经过北美训练:wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7:
只经过家里训练:wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7: ,不写了:wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7:

IBT : 2007-04-16#12
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总得来讲你写的很好,英文写作就是主题明确,然后是用EVIDENCES来SUPPORT你的观点.只是有些拼写和大小写TYPO等小小错.
经过北美学校训练就是不一样.(俺还没经过学校训练,不过在你的评语里学了很多,再次谢谢)

Maybe someone prefer direct experience, while, On the whole, i will choose books. 大小写,(光把o改小写对吗?我对这种很多逗号的复句的标点不会用,都按汉语来的:wdb24:
这个太傻了,我刚刚又仔细看了一下,也真够晕的,呵呵
Maybe someone prefers direct experience, while(这个还在晕?), on the whole, I will choose books.
最好是有三个段落来支持你的观点,那就更好了(我总犯这个毛病就是找观点前两个还行,死活想不起第三个,呵呵)

写得不错!
:wdb11: 得到08的保留性肯定 ,我分外高兴

IBT : 2007-04-16#13
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偶没经过北美训练:wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7:
只经过家里训练:wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7: ,不写了:wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7:
MM,别哭,你不觉得这就是训练营吗

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#14
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MM,别哭,你不觉得这就是训练营吗

:wdb11: :wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb6:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#15
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Maybe someone prefers direct experience, however, I will choose books.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#16
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你知道tacit knowledge?

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#17
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By definition, tacit knowledge is knowledge that people carry in their minds and is, therefore, difficult to access. Often, people are not aware of the knowledge they possess or how it can be valuable to others. Tacit knowledge is considered more valuable because it provides context for people, places, ideas, and experiences. Effective transfer of tacit knowledge generally requires extensive personal contact and trust.

Tacit knowledge is not easily shared. One of Polanyi's famous aphorisms is: "We know more than we can tell." Tacit knowledge consists often of habits and culture that we do not recognize in ourselves. In the field of knowledge management the concept of tacit knowledge refers to a knowledge which is only known by an individual and that is difficult to communicate to the rest of an organization. Knowledge that is easy to communicate is called explicit knowledge. The process of transforming tacit knowledge into explicit knowledge is known as codification or articulation.


[edit] Properties of tacit knowledge
The tacit aspects of knowledge are those that cannot be codified, but can only be transmitted via training or gained through personal experience. Alternatively, tacit knowledge can be understood to be knowledge that is embedded in a culture (for instance a regional culture, organizational culture or social culture) and is difficult to share with people not embedded in that culture. Tacit knowledge has been described as "know-how" (as opposed to "know-what" [facts], "know-why" [science] and "know-who" [networking]) . It involves learning and skill but not in a way that can be written down. The knowledge of how to ride a bike is an example: one cannot learn to ride a bike by reading a textbook, it takes personal experimentation and practice to gain the necessary skills.

Tacit knowledge has been found to be a crucial input to the innovation process. A society’s ability to innovate depends on its level of tacit knowledge of how to innovate. Polanyi suggested that scientific inquiry could not be reduced to facts, and that the search for new and novel research problems requires tacit knowledge about how to approach an unknown. Futher writers have suggested that most laboratory practices, practices that are vital to the successful reproduction of a scientific experiment, are tacit (Collins, 2001). Ikujiro Nonaka and Hirotaka Takeuchi's book The Knowledge Creating Company (1995) brought the concept of tacit knowledge into the realm of corporate innovation. In it, they suggest that Japanese companies are more innovative because they are able to successfully collectivize individual tacit knowledge to the firm. The two researchers give the example of the first Japanese bread maker, whose development was impossible until the engineers interned themselves to one of Japan's leading bakers. During their internship, they were able to learn the tacit movements required to knead dough, and then transfer this knowledge back to the company.

An example of the problems of tacit knowledge is the Bessemer process – Bessemer sold a patent to his advanced steel making process and was sued by the purchasers who couldn't get it to work – in the end Bessemer set up his own steel company which became one of the largest in the world and changed the face of steel making.

Tacit knowledge may seem a simple idea but its implications are large and far reaching. If important knowledge is tacit, then it cannot be effectively spread through an organization. This means that useful knowledge will not be able to reach those who need it without direct, face-to-face contact. It also means that training newcomers in an organization becomes more time consuming, because they must be given time to learn on their own while doing, which reduces overall efficiency. In order to collectivize and spread tacit knowledge, organizations must invest greatly in the human capital of its members.

IBT : 2007-04-16#18
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你知道tacit knowledge?
心照不宣的经验
不知道:wdb5:

IBT : 2007-04-16#19
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By definition, tacit knowledge is knowledge that people carry in their minds and is, therefore, difficult to access. Often, people are not aware of the knowledge they possess or how it can be valuable to others. Tacit knowledge is considered more valuable because it provides context for people, places, ideas, and experiences. Effective transfer of tacit knowledge generally requires extensive personal contact and trust.

Tacit knowledge is not easily shared. One of Polanyi's famous aphorisms is: "We know more than we can tell." Tacit knowledge consists often of habits and culture that we do not recognize in ourselves. In the field of knowledge management the concept of tacit knowledge refers to a knowledge which is only known by an individual and that is difficult to communicate to the rest of an organization. Knowledge that is easy to communicate is called explicit knowledge. The process of transforming tacit knowledge into explicit knowledge is known as codification or articulation.


[edit] Properties of tacit knowledge
The tacit aspects of knowledge are those that cannot be codified, but can only be transmitted via training or gained through personal experience. Alternatively, tacit knowledge can be understood to be knowledge that is embedded in a culture (for instance a regional culture, organizational culture or social culture) and is difficult to share with people not embedded in that culture. Tacit knowledge has been described as "know-how" (as opposed to "know-what" [facts], "know-why" [science] and "know-who" [networking]) . It involves learning and skill but not in a way that can be written down. The knowledge of how to ride a bike is an example: one cannot learn to ride a bike by reading a textbook, it takes personal experimentation and practice to gain the necessary skills.

Tacit knowledge has been found to be a crucial input to the innovation process. A society’s ability to innovate depends on its level of tacit knowledge of how to innovate. Polanyi suggested that scientific inquiry could not be reduced to facts, and that the search for new and novel research problems requires tacit knowledge about how to approach an unknown. Futher writers have suggested that most laboratory practices, practices that are vital to the successful reproduction of a scientific experiment, are tacit (Collins, 2001). Ikujiro Nonaka and Hirotaka Takeuchi's book The Knowledge Creating Company (1995) brought the concept of tacit knowledge into the realm of corporate innovation. In it, they suggest that Japanese companies are more innovative because they are able to successfully collectivize individual tacit knowledge to the firm. The two researchers give the example of the first Japanese bread maker, whose development was impossible until the engineers interned themselves to one of Japan's leading bakers. During their internship, they were able to learn the tacit movements required to knead dough, and then transfer this knowledge back to the company.

An example of the problems of tacit knowledge is the Bessemer process ? Bessemer sold a patent to his advanced steel making process and was sued by the purchasers who couldn't get it to work ? in the end Bessemer set up his own steel company which became one of the largest in the world and changed the face of steel making.

Tacit knowledge may seem a simple idea but its implications are large and far reaching. If important knowledge is tacit, then it cannot be effectively spread through an organization. This means that useful knowledge will not be able to reach those who need it without direct, face-to-face contact. It also means that training newcomers in an organization becomes more time consuming, because they must be given time to learn on their own while doing, which reduces overall efficiency. In order to collectivize and spread tacit knowledge, organizations must invest greatly in the human capital of its members.

嗨,尽管还没看完,因为还是没练成对角线式速读:wdb14: 。但得先写一下这句:明白,可以用这个写个保留性反对的:wdb6: 。然后再看,呵呵

长白山 : 2007-04-16#20
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:wdb14: 没抢到safa 郁闷中

IBT : 2007-04-16#21
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好啊,跑我这抢沙发来啦

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#22
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tacit knowledge比如名大厨做菜,是不是他写出菜谱后你照着做就做得和名厨一样了?

IBT : 2007-04-16#23
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:wdb14: 没抢到safa 郁闷中
:wdb5: 吧,小白:wdb4: ,我告诉你,不用那么跑得那么辛苦还能抢到抢手沙发的好办法
呵呵

IBT : 2007-04-16#24
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tacit knowledge比如名大厨做菜,是不是他写出菜谱后你照着做就做得和名厨一样了?
这倒是,这就是所谓的手感吧
很多事情是要靠感觉的,确实如此

长白山 : 2007-04-16#25
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:wdb5: 吧,小白:wdb4: ,我告诉你,不用那么跑得那么辛苦还能抢到抢手沙发的好办法
呵呵
恩 小声点~!~:wdb17:

IBT : 2007-04-16#26
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“We know more than we can tell."

IBT : 2007-04-16#27
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恩 小声点~!~:wdb17:
这是有条件地 以后给我无偿提供鸡蛋
接受不?

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#28
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knowledge management很时髦的,是图书馆专业的一个方向.我也写过类似的文章.但没保存,找不到了.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#29
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Knowledge management
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Knowledge management comprises a range of practices used by organisations to identify, create, represent, and distribute knowledge for reuse, awareness, and learning across the organisations.

Knowledge Management programs are typically tied to organisational objectives and are intended to lead to the achievement of specific outcomes, such as shared intelligence, improved performance, competitive advantage, or higher levels of innovation.

Knowledge transfer (one aspect of Knowledge Management) has always existed in one form or another. Examples include on-the-job peer discussions, formal apprenticeship, corporate libraries, professional training, and mentoring programs. However, since the late twentieth century, additional technology has been applied to this task, such as knowledge bases, expert systems, and knowledge repositories.

Knowledge Management programs attempt to manage the process of creation or identification, accumulation, and application of knowledge or intellectual capital across an organisation. Knowledge Management, therefore, attempts to bring under one set of practices various strands of thought and practice relating to:

intellectual capital and the knowledge worker in the knowledge economy
the idea of the learning organization
various enabling organizational practices such as Communities of Practice and corporate Yellow Page directories for accessing key personnel and expertise
various enabling technologies such as knowledge bases and expert systems, help desks, corporate intranets and extranets, Content Management, wikis and Document Management
While Knowledge Management programs are closely related to Organizational Learning initiatives, Knowledge Management may be distinguished from Organizational Learning by its greater focus on the management of specific knowledge assets and development and cultivation of the channels through which knowledge flows.

The emergence of Knowledge Management has generated new organisational roles and responsibilities, an early example of which was the Chief Knowledge Officer. In recent years, Personal knowledge management (PKM) practice has arisen in which individuals apply KM practice to themselves, their roles in the organisation, and their career development.

While it has been applied to all industrial sectors and increasingly to Government, Knowledge Management is a continually evolving discipline, with a wide range of contributions and a wide range of views on what represents good practice in Knowledge Management.

长白山 : 2007-04-16#30
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这是有条件地 以后给我无偿提供鸡蛋
接受不?
ok no problem?
ok no probelm?

IBT : 2007-04-16#31
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knowledge management很时髦的,是图书馆专业的一个方向.我也写过类似的文章.但没保存,找不到了.
啊,真没想到,图书馆专业还有这个方向那
不过我还有个小小请求,呵呵
08啥时有空也写篇吧,自己命题也可以啊

IBT : 2007-04-16#32
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so what do u want ?
说你小白你还不行,现在还不知道啊:wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-16#33
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so what do u want ?
小白就是写成白色儿的就看不见的意思:wdb6:

长白山 : 2007-04-16#34
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:wdb25:
说你小白你还不行,现在还不知道啊:wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb6:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#35
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啊,真没想到,图书馆专业还有这个方向那
不过我还有个小小请求,呵呵
08啥时有空也写篇吧,自己命题也可以啊

我没空写东西,今年只有现在是休假了,等去了YALE,太忙了.要写也是写升职用的,肯定要和同事合写,然后去哪专业会议或刊物发表.

IBT : 2007-04-16#36
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我没空写东西,今年只有现在是休假了,等去了YALE,太忙了.要写也是写升职用的,肯定要和同事合写,然后去哪专业会议或刊物发表.
:wdb1: :wdb1: 我感觉天上地下了,是地低下

IBT : 2007-04-16#37
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From Wikipedia
这个我一直用中文的来着,都不知道还有英文的呢
喜欢喜欢:)谢谢谢谢

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#38
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:wdb1: :wdb1: 我感觉天上地下了,是地低下
哪里,我的意思就是要借助于老外的英文.我还没底自个儿写了发表.

今天刚买了车票,准备月底坐大巴从MONTREAL去NEW HAVEN.但愿别下雪.

IBT : 2007-04-16#39
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哪里,我的意思就是要借助于老外的英文.我还没底自个儿写了发表.

今天刚买了车票,准备月底坐大巴从MONTREAL去NEW HAVEN.但愿别下雪.
放心吧,08是个热心人儿,即便雪也会给暖融了的
提前祝你一路顺风吧

irene999 : 2007-04-16#40
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俺就光用眼了.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#41
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:wdb14: 没抢到safa 郁闷中

你总和赵本山在一起,还能抢到:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-16#42
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Maybe someone prefers direct experience, however, I will choose books.
啊,不认真读帖,我真:wdb8:

IBT : 2007-04-16#43
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俺就光用眼了.
:wdb11: 用眼挑完了错,用手拍砖:wdb10:

irene999 : 2007-04-16#44
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哈哈,我倒是想,可我只有看的份了,学学.

IBT : 2007-04-16#45
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哈哈,我倒是想,可我只有看的份了,学学.
我知道小九儿码中国字可是很牛的啊:wdb17:

irene999 : 2007-04-16#46
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我知道小九儿码中国字可是很牛的啊:wdb17:

:wdb24: :wdb5: 这高帽给带的.

哈哈, 我准备去看它二十篇Issue,备战好了再来.

俺现在连中文的Issue都有年头没沾边了.

IBT : 2007-04-16#47
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:wdb24: :wdb5: 这高帽给带的.

哈哈, 我准备去看它二十篇Issue,备战好了再来.

俺现在连中文的Issue都有年头没沾边了.
恩,很期待
希望咱们园子里多多的英语高手,百花齐放春满园,多好

IBT : 2007-04-16#48
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ok no problem?
ok no probelm?
只能说我,我,我感激地流鼻涕

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#49
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先给出题目,要求对给出的题目(一个存在多种立场的是非问题)提出自己的观点(可保留性支持,保留性反对,全面支持,全面反对或者干脆骑墙,:wdb5: ),并提供论据支持自己的立场。

题目1:The depth of knowledge to be gained from books is much richer and broader than what can be learned from direct experience.


俺的第一篇,欢迎大家拍砖(俺先准备铁锅,别砸漏就行,回头做饭还得用呢),同时更欢迎大家参与,PK(也给俺一个拍砖机会:)
补充:俺这篇是保留性支持。
豁出去啦,啥也不管,俺这就贴啦

Books and experience are the two main resources that we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefer direct experience, while, On the whole, i will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want through looking up in books, the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.

First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals a book, especially a professional book, teaches us an certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, just by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did. For example, even like our education, if we learn botany from the text book, we can know from the appearance of plants to the inner fabric; because experts in this period have research them throughlly. unfortunately, from our own direct experience maybe we can get just the shallow acquaintance because we have not complex equipments and advanced researching methods like those scientists do to help us get more knowledge.

Then, the same thing happens in the breadth we gain knowledge from books and experience. It is exactly as people always say: everyone's time and energy are limited, so it is impossible that one person can have the whole experience in every field. To the contray, a book just like extending your life, because the people preceding you have done what your need to do for you and you do nothing but look up the book and take in mind. I dare not imagine if we get knowledge not from books but only from direct experience all the way, then maybe now the humanbeing is still at the paleolithic age; because everyone's life spent on learning the rudimental knowledge from his own direct experience, but not standing on the shoulder of Giants.

Admittedly, always depending on books sometimes is also limited; Because society is always developing, and only learning from the book in which the knowledge is all confirmed without finding new things from your own experience will stop this developing. However, comparing the knowledge in books to one's experience, whether in depth or in breadth, the latter can not be at an advantageous position. In other words, the depth of knowledge to be gained from books is much richer and broader than what can be learned from dierct experience.


多谢各位兄弟姐妹父老乡亲捧场,深 深 鞠躬:)

:wdb17: :wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#50
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:wdb24: :wdb5: 这高帽给带的.

哈哈, 我准备去看它二十篇Issue,备战好了再来.

俺现在连中文的Issue都有年头没沾边了.

感谢房粱,最近的一次练笔就是"关于换妻俱乐部"的大讨论:wdb4:

yangyang2005 : 2007-04-16#51
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期待更多佳作

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#52
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期待更多佳作

:wdb11: 越来越象领导了,下面偶就要贴了"家作":wdb4:



zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#53
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:wdb13: 俺的第一篇,欢迎大家拍砖(俺先准备铁锅,砸吧:wdb10: ,看来不破斧沉锅不行了,同时更欢迎大家参与,不敢PK,就是想学习,也给俺一个进步机会:wdb23:)经过下午的构思,晚上把以前的作业,笔记翻出来,熟悉一下结构,(2年前的,我这人笔记一向潦草,写完自己都不认识,因为记的时候根本就没想再看,只是对老师的尊重,以为自己当时都记住了 :wdb4:),好不容易"拼"出一篇.


补充:俺这篇是保留性支持。豁出去啦,啥也不管,俺这就贴啦,还是有点害怕:wdb13: 题目内容请参照LZ的(形式是中立)(偶IELTS老师以前说EXAMINER 喜欢 SAMPLES,所以列举了很多,不知道对不?)


Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option for people these days due to limited time .However,whlie getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches have distinct advantages,and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.

On the one hand, firstly,it proves true that riching knowledge straight from experience would save a lot of time,for example,some computer problems related to the “office operation system” may be solved in a few minutes under the supervision of your skillful colleagues instead of spending a few hours on checking the professional books ,and perhaps later you will fail to tackle it.In addtion,
learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to understand a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than study plenty of travel books at home which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which is crucial for your employment opportunities have to be learned and managed through practices.

On the other hand, some people are inclined to enrich their knowledge from books,especially for children and old men.for example,due to the sake of safety , in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace rather than put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major study media to deepen and broaden people’s knowledge,
which does not need a special time,special place and a typical teacher ,thus some people have formed a good habit of readindg whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, ,all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.

In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement.


从来没写过这么长,因为IELTS要求250个字,当时练习的时候都没超过280个,够字数就OK了,但看LZ写那么多,不敢怠慢,第一次写超过300字,大汗!

紫竹林 : 2007-04-16#54
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支持一下,太好了
这个和toefl185题里面的第4题很相近阿
It has been said, "Not everything that is learned is contained in books."
Compare and contrast knowledge gained from experience with knowledge gained from books.
In your opinion, which source is more important? Why?
可惜我还没写这篇呢


找到了,去年写过的,贴出来,纪念我第一次半途而废的考托
是当时的第三次作业,后来看觉得逻辑结构不好,表达不清晰,嘿嘿
Since born in this world, people are on the way of acquiring information and getting knowledge. People always try their best to gain much more information, especially by experiences and books. They are very helpful for people to become smarter. But which source, experiences or books, is more important? It is really hard to determine.

Before mastering the skills of reading and writing, people learn mainly by their own experiences. For example, a child may observe everything in their sight and imitate what others do. He will soon get the information so as to keep him away from dangerous and comfortless situation. The first touch with fire perhaps frightened him, and this experience is so impressing and first-hand that he remembered not to approach to fire. Experiences always impress people most.

No one can deny people benefit from experiences, but in my opinion books really teach people more. In such an information-booming society, people can not learn anything just by their own experiences. It is said reading a good book is just like talking with a great people, and people can know what others think, live or do by reading books. For instance, I can not have a chance to talk with Newton face to face, but I can know his ideas and thoughts from his books. Meanwhile, books can broaden people’s eyes and take them into another world. A travel book can make me get a knowledge of the local customs, famous sites, history, and so on, which maybe partly compensate the regret that I could not have a visit to the place.

Especially in this modern developing age, people learn more from books than from experiences. Although experiences can teach people first-hand and impressing knowledge, people benefit more from reading books. It is difficult to get information by oneself. To be much more adaptable to the fast speed development, people would learn not only from their own experiences, but from other’s by reading books. As an old Chinese saying, “It is helpful to read a book”, It is rather important for us to gain knowledge by reading books.

IBT : 2007-04-16#55
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:wdb13: 俺的第一篇,欢迎大家拍砖(俺先准备铁锅,砸吧:wdb10: ,看来不破斧沉锅不行了,同时更欢迎大家参与,不敢PK,就是想学习,也给俺一个进步机会:wdb23:)经过下午的构思,晚上把以前的作业,笔记翻出来,熟悉一下结构,(2年前的,我这人笔记一向潦草,写完自己都不认识,因为记的时候根本就没想再看,只是对老师的尊重,以为自己当时都记住了 :wdb4:),好不容易"拼"出一篇.


补充:俺这篇是保留性支持。豁出去啦,啥也不管,俺这就贴啦,还是有点害怕:wdb13: 题目内容请参照LZ的(形式是中立)(偶IELTS老师以前说EXAMINER 喜欢 SAMPLES,(绝对正确)所以列举了很多,不知道对不?)


Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option (给讲解一下)for people these days due to limited time .However,whlie(while?用了however和while 两个连词) getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches have distinct advantages(句尾加这个会不会好些respectively),and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.

On the one hand, firstly,it (has been proved)proves true that riching knowledge straight from experience would save a lot of time,for example,some computer problems related to the “office operation system” may be solved in a few minutes under the supervision of your skillful colleagues instead of spending a few hours on checking the professional books ,and perhaps later you will fail to tackle it.In addtion,
learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to understand a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than (to) study plenty of travel books at home which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents(different) views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not noly requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills ,(需要逗号吗)which is(are) crucial for your employment opportunities have to be learned and managed through practices.(这个句子是不是谓语多了?)

On the other hand, some people are inclined (学习:) to enrich their knowledge from books,especially for children and old men.for example,due to the sake of safety(活学活用啊) , in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace rather than(to需要吗) put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying(讲解一下) a wider application to serve as a major study media to deepen and broaden people’s knowledge,
which does not need a special time,special place and a typical teacher ,thus some people have formed a good habit of readindg whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, ,all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.

In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement.


从来没写过这么长,因为IELTS要求250个字,当时练习的时候都没超过280个,够字数就OK了,但看LZ写那么多,不敢怠慢,第一次写超过300字,大汗!
写得真棒啊,:wdb17: 极了,词汇丰富
不过这个算保留性支持吗,应该是骑墙才对吧,:wdb6: 呵呵

IBT : 2007-04-16#56
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Tacit knowledge may seem a simple idea but its implications are large and far reaching. If important knowledge is tacit, then it cannot be effectively spread through an organization. This means that useful knowledge will not be able to reach those who need it without direct, face-to-face contact. It also means that training newcomers in an organization becomes more time consuming, because they must be given time to learn on their own while doing, which reduces overall efficiency. In order to collectivize and spread tacit knowledge, organizations must invest greatly in the human capital of its members.
这个the human capital of its memebers 该怎么理解呢

IBT : 2007-04-16#57
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嗨,真好,真好:wdb19: :wdb19:
支持一下,太好了
这个和toefl185题里面的第4题很相近阿
It has been said, "Not everything that is learned is contained in books."
Compare and contrast knowledge gained from experience with knowledge gained from books.
In your opinion, which source is more important? Why?
可惜我还没写这篇呢


找到了,去年写过的,贴出来,纪念我第一次半途而废的考托
是当时的第三次作业,后来看觉得逻辑结构不好,表达不清晰,嘿嘿
Since born in this world, people are on the way of acquiring information and getting knowledge. People always try their best to gain much more information, especially by experiences and books. They are very helpful for people to become smarter. But which source, experiences or books, is more important? It is really hard to determine.

Before mastering the skills of reading and writing, people learn mainly by their own experiences. For example, a child may observe everything in their sight and imitate(imitating) what others do. He will soon get the information so as to keep him away from dangerous and comfortless situation. The first touch with fire perhaps frightened him, and this experience is so impressing and first-hand that he remembered not to approach to fire. Experiences always impress people most.

No one can deny people benefit from experiences, but in my opinion books really teach people more. In such an information-booming society, people can not learn anything just by their own experiences. It is said reading a good book is just like talking with a great people, and people can know what others think, live or do by reading books. For instance, I can not have a chance to talk with Newton face to face, but I can know his ideas and thoughts from his books. Meanwhile, books can broaden people’s eyes and take them into another world. A travel book can make me get a knowledge of the local customs, famous sites, history, and so on, which maybe partly compensate(需要加s吗) the regret that I could not have a visit to the place.

Especially in this modern developing age, people learn more from books than from experiences. Although experiences can teach people first-hand and impressing knowledge, people benefit more from reading books. It is difficult to get information by oneself. To be much more adaptable to the fast speed development, people would learn not only from their own experiences, but from other’s by reading books. As an old Chinese saying, “It is helpful to read a book”(开卷有益:), It is rather important for us to gain knowledge by reading books.


:wdb17: :wdb17: 高手多多啊.继续向你们晓习:)

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#58
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这个the human capital of its memebers 该怎么理解呢
人才资本,人力资本

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#59
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上面两篇"紫竹林" 和"ZZNN123456"写的文章,结构都不错.写作基本框架不错,只是在支持观点的时侯,要用更多的数据,比如百分比,调查结果,引用别人的研究,引用名言等就更精彩,另外注意个别字的用法.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#60
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中国人写文章喜欢讲原理,从原理谈原理,从理论到理论,这是通病,我以前写的文学批评文章老师的评语就是"从理论到理论"所以花了很多功夫,只得B+,后来改了风格,就能得A,A-了.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#61
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getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.

Probably from digital resources.哈哈.

IBT : 2007-04-16#62
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中国人写文章喜欢讲原理,从原理谈原理,从理论到理论,这是通病,我以前写的文学批评文章老师的评语就是"从理论到理论"所以花了很多功夫,只得B+,后来改了风格,就能得A,A-了.
这个真是很难啊,我想举的例子都太不international啦

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#63
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On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that riching ? knowledge straight from experience would save a lot of time,for example,some computer problems related to the “office operation system” may be solved in a few minutes under the supervision of your skillful colleagues instead of spending a few hours on checking the professional books ,and perhaps later you will fail to tackle it.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#64
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这个真是很难啊,我想举的例子都太不international啦
练习和考试并不要你真的引用确切数据,你可杜撰,只是为了练习写作.

IBT : 2007-04-16#65
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The process of transforming tacit knowledge into explicit knowledge is known as codification or articulation.


[edit] Properties of tacit knowledge
The tacit aspects of knowledge are those that cannot be codified, but can only be transmitted via training or gained through personal experience. Alternatively, tacit knowledge can be understood to be knowledge that is embedded in a culture (for instance a regional culture, organizational culture or social culture) and is difficult to share with people not embedded in that culture.

An example of the problems of tacit knowledge is the Bessemer process ? Bessemer sold a patent to his advanced steel making process and was sued by the purchasers who couldn't get it to work (codification不成功?)? in the end Bessemer set up his own steel company which became one of the largest in the world and changed the face of steel making.
:wdb2: 需要解释

IBT : 2007-04-16#66
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练习和考试并不要你真的引用确切数据,你可杜撰,只是为了练习写作.
:wdb1: 和贾宝玉有一拼啦,呵呵

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#67
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On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that riching ? knowledge straight from experience would save a lot of time,for example,some computer problems related to the “office operation system” may be solved in a few minutes under the supervision of your skillful colleagues instead of spending a few hours on checking the professional books ,and perhaps later you will fail to tackle it.

这些不是很确切,

"Office software", "Office tools","Office Management System"但没什么office operation system
under the supervision of your skillful colleagues
用with the help of your experienced colleagues更恰当因为你强调经验
几分种也SUPERVISION一下吗?

the professional books 用 production manuals

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#68
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codification就是编码,编成代码,法典

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#69
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Codification
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For linguistic codification, see codification (linguistics).
In law, codification is the process of collecting and restating the law of a jurisdiction in certain areas, usually by subject, forming a legal code.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#70
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比如把厨师的经验编成菜谱加上操作步骤.

IBT : 2007-04-16#71
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On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that riching ? (enrichingknowledge straight(为啥不能用这个?难道这个直接只是距离上的吗?换成directly?) from experience would save a lot of time,for example,some computer problems related to the “office operation system(这个不是操作系统吗:wdb4: )” may be solved in a few minutes under the supervision(assist?) of your skillful(改成skilled可以吗) colleagues instead of spending a few hours on checking the professional :(这个不知道了) books ,and perhaps later you will fail to tackle it.
她们都去睡觉觉了,俺先替谢过啦

IBT : 2007-04-16#72
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这些不是很确切,

"Office software", "Office tools","Office Management System"但没什么office operation system
under the supervision of your skillful colleagues
用with the help of your experienced colleagues更恰当因为你强调经验
几分种也SUPERVISION一下吗?

the professional books 用 production manuals
I see:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-16#73
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比如把厨师的经验编成菜谱加上操作步骤.
tacit knowledge 只能意会不能言传, 必须learn on their own while doing;但是可以codify的,但这样的codification may seem a simple idea but its implications are large and far reaching.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#74
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操作系统operating system如WINDOWS,UNIX,但不是OFFICE OPERATING SYSTEM

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#75
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tacit knowledge 只能意会不能言传, 必须learn on their own while doing;但是可以codify的,但这样的codification may seem a simple idea but its implications are large and far reaching.
是的,和TACIT KNOWLEDGE相应的是EXPLICIT KNOWLEDGE
Explicit knowledge

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Explicit knowledge is knowledge that has been or can be articulated, codified, and stored in certain media. It can be readily transmitted to others. The most common forms of explicit knowledge are manuals, documents and procedures. Knowledge also can be audio-visual. Works of art and product design can be seen as other forms of explicit knowledge where human skills, motives and knowledge are externalized.

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zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#76
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这些不是很确切,

"Office software", "Office tools","Office Management System"但没什么office operation system
under the supervision of your skillful colleagues
用with the help of your experienced colleagues更恰当因为你强调经验
几分种也SUPERVISION一下吗?

the professional books 用 production manuals

:wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: my dear teacher 2008

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#77
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写得真棒啊,:wdb17: 极了,词汇丰富
不过这个算保留性支持吗,应该是骑墙才对吧,:wdb6: 呵呵

Thanks ,my dear teacher IBT:wdb19: ,我理解错了,以为你说的保留性支持是把你的那篇ESSAY永远贴在那里,支持大家写ISSUE呢:wdb4:

所以就COPY过来也决定保留性支持一下:wdb1: ,刚爬起来,想到结尾有点仓促,可以再加一点.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#78
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上面两篇"紫竹林" 和"ZZNN123456"写的文章,结构都不错.写作基本框架不错,只是在支持观点的时侯,要用更多的数据,比如百分比,调查结果,引用别人的研究,引用名言等就更精彩,另外注意个别字的用法.

:wdb11: :wdb19: :wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#79
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中国人写文章喜欢讲原理,从原理谈原理,从理论到理论,这是通病,我以前写的文学批评文章老师的评语就是"从理论到理论"所以花了很多功夫,只得B+,后来改了风格,就能得A,A-了.

:wdb11: :wdb19:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#80
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getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.

Probably from digital resources.哈哈.


getting the useful resources from books may still be one of mainstreams in the future.  可以吗?

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-16#81
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getting the useful resources from books may still be one of mainstreams in the future.  可以吗?
原句很好的,我只是讲将来的趋势是DIGITAL RESOURCES.

甜儿妈 : 2007-04-16#82
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佩服呀,今天去英语测评了,惭愧呀!从明天开始加紧练习了

IBT : 2007-04-16#83
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佩服呀,今天去英语测评了,惭愧呀!从明天开始加紧练习了
嗯,:wdb10:

IBT : 2007-04-16#84
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题目2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."

先说不好意思,自己还没写呢,呵呵
俺的能量实在有限,写完一篇就感觉“鞠躬尽瘁,死而后已”了,:(
大家有空就先写啊
俺先借鉴:)

zznn123456 : 2007-04-16#85
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原句很好的,我只是讲将来的趋势是DIGITAL RESOURCES.

:wdb11: :wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#86
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IBT: 谢谢你55楼的修改,有些问题,我想回复你,可是我咋不能QUOTE呢?

IBT : 2007-04-17#87
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为啥,不能quote
让俺试试

IBT : 2007-04-17#88
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哇噻,是地,是地,因为俺直接饮用你地,呵呵
干脆你直接copy+paste吧,呵呵

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#89
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上面两篇"紫竹林" 和"ZZNN123456"写的文章,结构都不错.写作基本框架不错,只是在支持观点的时侯,要用更多的数据,比如百分比,调查结果,引用别人的研究,引用名言等就更精彩,另外注意个别字的用法.

1.国内的老师也只能教结构了:wdb14:

2.引用别人的数据,调查结果,一定要真实可靠,否则我自己都不敢看,国内做调查的很少,引用名言可以试试.
3. 说起这事,我就生气,这里老师要求VARIETY,可以写skillful ,他却说sophyscated(还忘了咋写,但发音好像对),单词能用难的,就不用简单的,这样才能拿高分,有时查字典用一些莫名其妙的词,写完自己都不认识:wdb4:

可是看了你贴的关于extramarrital affairs,那么复杂的关系,都是用最简单的单词,写的很清楚,明了:wdb17: ,以后再写就应该朝这方面发展,还有IBT,写的也流畅,也没用啥"难"词:wdb19:

IBT : 2007-04-17#90
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1.国内的老师也只能教结构了:wdb14:

2.引用别人的数据,调查结果,一定要真实可靠,否则我自己都不敢看,国内做调查的很少,引用名言可以试试.
3. 说起这事,我就生气,这里老师要求VARIETY,可以写skillful ,他却说sophyscated(还忘了咋写,但发音好像对),单词能用难的,就不用简单的,这样才能拿高分,有时查字典用一些莫名其妙的词,写完自己都不认识:wdb4:

可是看了你贴的关于extramarrital affairs,那么复杂的关系,都是用最简单的单词,写的很清楚,明了:wdb17: ,以后再写就应该朝这方面发展,还有IBT,写的也流畅,也没用啥"难"词:wdb19:
因为俺不会难词:wdb5: ,哈哈
就像小时写作文,都不是一朝一夕之功,更何况这外国字儿呢,对吧

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#91
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Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option (给讲解一下)(已经成为大部分人的选择,相当于become more popular)for people these days due to limited time .However,whlie(while?用了however和while 两个连词)(这里应该去掉一个) getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches have distinct advantages(句尾加这个会不会好些respectively:wdb19: :wdb9: ),and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.
On the one hand, firstly,it (has been proved)proves true that riching knowledge straight from experience would save a lot of time,for example,some computer problems related to the “office operation system” may be solved in a few minutes under the supervision of your skillful colleagues instead of spending a few hours on checking the professional books ,and perhaps later you will fail to tackle it.In addtion,
learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to understand a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than (to)(可以省略吧?) study plenty of travel books at home which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents(different) views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not noly requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills ,(需要逗号吗)(no)which is(are)(right) crucial for your employment opportunities, have to be learned and managed through practices.(这个句子是不是谓语多了?)(这里想表达WHICH引导一个并列的定语从句:wdb4: ,好像不行,这样可以吗?which are crucial for your empoyment opportunities and these techniques have to be learned and managed through practices)
On the other hand, some people are inclined (学习:)(想用ENRICH代替STUDY,总想到替换没想到准确性) to enrich their knowledge from books,especially for children and old men.for example,due to the sake of safety(活学活用啊) , in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace rather than(to需要吗)(不需要) put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying(讲解一下)(enjoying a wider application,也是become popular 的意思:wdb4:) a wider application to serve as a major study media to deepen and broaden people’s knowledge,
which does not need a special time,special place and a typical teacher ,thus some people have formed a good habit of readindg whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, ,all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.
In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement.


dear my IBT teacher:wdb19: ,再次感谢:wdb23:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#92
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因为俺不会难词:wdb5: ,哈哈
就像小时写作文,都不是一朝一夕之功,更何况这外国字儿呢,对吧

我本来就不会写作文,假期留的作文都是偶前男友给偶突击写的 :wdb4:

他考大学语文单科,全校第一:wdb17:

IBT : 2007-04-17#93
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Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option (给讲解一下)(已经成为大部分人的选择,相当于become more popular)for people these days due to limited time .However,whlie(while?用了however和while 两个连词)(这里应该去掉一个) getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches have distinct advantages(句尾加这个会不会好些respectively:wdb19: :wdb9: ),and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.
On the one hand, firstly,it (has been proved)proves true that riching knowledge straight from experience would save a lot of time,for example,some computer problems related to the “office operation system” may be solved in a few minutes under the supervision of your skillful colleagues instead of spending a few hours on checking the professional books ,and perhaps later you will fail to tackle it.In addtion,
learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to understand a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than (to)(可以省略吧?) study plenty of travel books at home which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents(different) views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not noly requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills ,(需要逗号吗)(no)which is(are)(right) crucial for your employment opportunities, have to be learned and managed through practices.(这个句子是不是谓语多了?)(这里想表达WHICH引导一个并列的定语从句:wdb4: ,好像不行,这样可以吗?which are crucial for your empoyment opportunities and these techniques have to be learned and managed through practices)
On the other hand, some people are inclined (学习:)(想用ENRICH代替STUDY,总想到替换没想到准确性) to enrich their knowledge from books,especially for children and old men.for example,due to the sake of safety(活学活用啊) , in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace rather than(to需要吗)(不需要) put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying(讲解一下)(enjoying a wider application,也是become popular 的意思:wdb4:) a wider application to serve as a major study media to deepen and broaden people’s knowledge,
which does not need a special time,special place and a typical teacher ,thus some people have formed a good habit of readindg whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, ,all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.
In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement.


dear my IBT teacher:wdb19: ,再次感谢:wdb23:
我觉得还是叫“剩下”(我新提升的)好,哈哈,俺叫你“总是”,呵呵

看了你的讲解,小溪了好多,:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-17#94
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我本来就不会写作文,假期留的作文都是偶前男友给偶突击写的 :wdb4:

他考大学语文单科,全校第一:wdb17:
哇噻,我从小也喜欢语文,不过上了大学却学了理,就再没跟语文见过面啦:wdb14:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#95
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我觉得还是叫“剩下”(我新提升的)好,哈哈,俺叫你“总是”,呵呵

看了你的讲解,小溪了好多,:wdb6:

I copied it from only:wdb6:, you see only said "my dear teacher 2008"

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#96
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题目2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."

先说不好意思,自己还没写呢,呵呵
俺的能量实在有限,写完一篇就感觉“鞠躬尽瘁,死而后已”了,:(
大家有空就先写啊
俺先借鉴:)

一周写一篇好吗?因为还有其他TZ写的还没来的及贴,我还要改一下,再贴上来:wdb9: ,我们要重质:wdb19: ,当然也重量了:wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#97
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(revised)

Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option for people these days due to limited time .However,getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches have distinct advantages respectively,and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.

On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing knowledge from experience might save a plenty of time,for example,with the help of your experienced colleagues ,some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals ,and perhaps at last you fail to tackle it.In addtion,learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to get to know a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than study a lot of travel books at home which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which are crucial for your employment opportunities and these techniques have to be studied and managed throughout practices.

On the other hand, some people are likely inclined to expand and deepen their knowledge from books,especially for children and old people.for example,due to the sake of safety, in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds,as reading
is not necessary to need a special time and a special place,the increasing number of people have formed a good habit to read whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.

In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement,consequently most people consider it childish to seek study for its own sake.

([FONT=宋体]最后一句是看了这里的一个帖子说,希腊人认为了娱乐而娱乐是很幼稚的,我[/FONT]COPY[FONT=宋体]了一下,为了学习而学习是幼稚的,还是强调[/FONT]enjoyable,[FONT=宋体]行吗?[/FONT])

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#98
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1.国内的老师也只能教结构了:wdb14:

2.引用别人的数据,调查结果,一定要真实可靠,否则我自己都不敢看,国内做调查的很少,引用名言可以试试.
3. 说起这事,我就生气,这里老师要求VARIETY,可以写skillful ,他却说sophyscated(还忘了咋写,但发音好像对),单词能用难的,就不用简单的,这样才能拿高分,有时查字典用一些莫名其妙的词,写完自己都不认识:wdb4:

可是看了你贴的关于extramarrital affairs,那么复杂的关系,都是用最简单的单词,写的很清楚,明了:wdb17: ,以后再写就应该朝这方面发展,还有IBT,写的也流畅,也没用啥"难"词:wdb19:

国内的老师词汇量不少,但怎么用不一定清楚,如你经常看这里的招聘广告.experienced用的最多.
skillful一般指技巧.sophisticated一般形容事物如music,machine,当然也可形容人如lady,但含义和experienced有一定相差,用字要看你的上下文.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#99
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sophisticated

adjective
1. having or appealing to those having worldly knowledge and refinement and savoir-faire; "sophisticated young socialites"; "a sophisticated audience"; "a sophisticated lifestyle"; "a sophisticated book" [ant: naif]
2. ahead in development; complex or intricate; "advanced technology"; "a sophisticated electronic control system" [syn: advanced]
3. intellectually appealing; "a sophisticated drama"

WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary (Beta Version) - Cite This Source
sophisticated</span><span class="homno">1 [səˈfistikeitid] adjective

(negative unsophisticated) (of a person) having a great deal of experience and worldly wisdom, knowledge of how to dress elegantly etc
Example: a sophisticated young man; She has become very sophisticated since she went to live in London.

Chinese (Simplified): 非常老练的

老江湖,世故,圆滑,比如电台视主持人

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#100
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sophisticated

adjective
1. having or appealing to those having worldly knowledge and refinement and savoir-faire; "sophisticated young socialites"; "a sophisticated audience"; "a sophisticated lifestyle"; "a sophisticated book" [ant: naif]
2. ahead in development; complex or intricate; "advanced technology"; "a sophisticated electronic control system" [syn: advanced]
3. intellectually appealing; "a sophisticated drama"

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#101
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1. (of a person, ideas, tastes, manners, etc.) altered by education, experience, etc., so as to be worldly-wise; not naive: a sophisticated young socialite; the sophisticated eye of a journalist. 2. pleasing or satisfactory to the tastes of sophisticates: sophisticated music.
3. deceptive; misleading.
4. complex or intricate, as a system, process, piece of machinery, or the like: a sophisticated electronic control system.
5. of, for, or reflecting educated taste, knowledgeable use, etc.: Many Americans are drinking more sophisticated wines now.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#102
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谢谢,2008老师:wdb17: ,鞠躬了:wdb6:
平时看一些啥资料对用词准确有好处呢?:wdb2:

借个马甲 : 2007-04-17#103
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NN好勤奋哦.:wdb10:
偶好久不写英文作文了哦,我也来读读. 搀和一下下:wdb19:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#104
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NN好勤奋哦.:wdb10:
偶好久不写英文作文了哦,我也来读读. 搀和一下下:wdb19:

别笑我了,不敢和你比,你来指导就开心了:wdb10:

IBT : 2007-04-17#105
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:(

IBT : 2007-04-17#106
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题目2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."

(红色为已更改处,蓝色表示不解,盼望大家指点)



The speaker maintains it is more beneficial that all students study the same national curriculum before they go to college than (这还用加什么动词吗)the different courses determined by different schools. Nowadays, I concede that many countries unify(这个词可以吗) the courses in junior and senior schools(有更好的说法吗), whereas I do not consider doing like this is helpful for students and disagree with the statement either. As my point of view, schools in different parts should have rights(忘了复数) to determine which academic courses to offer.

To begin with, I do not(规范写法) think the same national courses are necessary. Maybe some people will oppose it and assert that only establishing the uniform standard, can the quality of education be ensured. Contrarily, a school will take its reputation seriously; even there is no restriction about curriculum, the governor(是用这个词吗?) of the school will also choose the most crucial courses. Though we have not the same national curriculum, we have the same principle about how to cultivate a qualified person; and according to(把介词忘了) this, the school will choose(可以是不及物吧?) advisably. Confessedly, any school will not discard an acknowledged important cause, for instance math, Language; because they do not want their students uncompetitive in the society, furthermore, they know the quality of students is the life of the school. In conclusion, the same national courses extremely are needless.

Secondly, if schools in different parts have no freedom(do not have any freedom,这两种说法都可以吧?) to determine which academic courses to offer, many problems would be caused. Because many countries have not only one nation, such as China which has 56 different nations, and many of them have their own languages and ,even, characters; it is impossible to accept all of them into one same national curriculum, while rejecting them is also unjust for the nations(俺这句话想表达的意思是:不可能把他们全接收到一个相同的课程表里,但弃掉他们对那些民族来讲也是不公平的,应该咋改?). Especially for some distinct regional culture, if we do not transfer it, it will be lost. In this situation, the best solution is admitting schools choose the academic courses according to their needs.

Finally, everyone knows schools are not factories which produce robots; consequently they do not need the same academic courses as factories need fixed program and assembling line(对这个句子的正确性表示怀疑). Instead, every school should offer the most suitable curriculum to facilitate students' growing up. Not only the need of education but the need of students should be taken into account in the process of deciding a curriculum. Via catering this need, schools can also form their own features to develop themselves.

The analyses above have demonstrated that for a country allowing schools to determine their academic courses is much more appropriate. Of course, choosing same national curriculum may also have a few advantages, for example, the school are more simple to managed and the qualities of schools are easier to compare; but through the effective supervision of relevant departments, different schools enact different courses will do things better.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#107
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题目2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."

The speaker maintains it is more benefitial that students study the same national curriculm before they go to college than the different courses determined by different parts. Nowadays,I concede that many countries unify the courses in junior and senior schools, whereas I donot consider doing like this is helpful for students and disagree with the statement either. As my point of view, schools in different parts should have right to determine which academic courses to offer.

To begin with, I donnot think the same national courses are necessary. Maybe some people will oppose it and assert that only estabishing the uniform standard, can the quality of education be ensured. Contrarily, a school will take it's reputation seriously; even there is no restriction about curriculum, the governor of the school will also choose the most crucial courses. Though we have not the same national curriculum, we have the same principle about how to cultivate a qualified person; and according this the school will choose advisably. Confessedly, any school will not discard an acknowledged important couse, for instance math, Language; because they do not want their students uncompetitive in the society, furthermore, they know the quality of students is the life of the school. In conclusion, the same national courses extremely is needless.


Secondly, if schools in different parts have no freedom to determine which academic courses to offer, many problems would be caused. Because many coutries have not only one nation, such as China which has 56 different nations, and many of them have
their own languages and ,even, characters; it is impossible to accept all of them into the same national curriculum, while rejecting them is also unjust for the nations. Especially some distinct regional culture, if we do not transfer it, it will be lost. In this situation, the best solution is admitting schools choose the academic courses according to their needs.

Finally, everyone knows schools are not factories which produce robots, consequently they do not need the same academic courses as factories need fixed program and sembling line. Insteadly, every school should offer the most suitable curriculum to facilitate students' growing up. Not only the need of education but the need of students should be taken into account in the process of deciding a curriculum. Via catering this need, schools can also form their own features to develop themselves.

The analyse above has demonstrated that for a country allowing schools to determine their academic courses is much more appropriate. Of course, choosing same national curriculm may also have a few advantages, for example, the school are more simple to managed and the qualities of shools are easier to compare; but through the effective supervision of relevant departments, different shools enact different courses will do things better.

I 老师:wdb17: 马上拜读

IBT : 2007-04-17#108
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I 老师:wdb17: 马上拜读
拍,狠狠地~

IBT : 2007-04-17#109
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一周写一篇好吗?因为还有其他TZ写的还没来的及贴,我还要改一下,再贴上来:wdb9: ,我们要重质:wdb19: ,当然也重量了:wdb6:
:wdb11: 好,:wdb6: 呵呵,心照不宣的借口

IBT : 2007-04-17#110
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I 老师:wdb17: 马上拜读
可怜的zz,一定被我的可恶的错误搞得头晕脑涨了
我给忘了,如果帖上来之前放到word里会帮你检查好多错误
对不起,让您受累啦

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#111
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写的太好了

IBT : 2007-04-17#112
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写的太好了
啊,里面有好多句子,俺瞎攒的
水平凹呀,求你了zz现在我把那些幼稚的拼写错误改过了,帮我看看用词语法和结构先

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#113
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啊,里面有好多句子,俺瞎攒的
水平凹呀,求你了zz现在我把那些幼稚的拼写错误改过了,帮我看看用词语法和结构先

偶咋敢对老师下手呢:wdb13: ,偶啥都不怕,就是怕老师(佩服有水平的老师:wdb6: )

IBT : 2007-04-17#114
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偶咋敢对老师下手呢:wdb13: ,偶啥都不怕,就是怕老师(佩服有水平的老师:wdb6: )
我又暖水瓶你怕不?
好好拍我,否则我扔暖水瓶了啊
还可以对我阐述不清楚的地方下手啊

借个马甲 : 2007-04-17#115
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很喜欢NN写的长句子哦.优点多多!:wdb10: :wdb10:
给点儿小的建议,愿与NN讨论.





Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option for people these days due to limited time .However,getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches(建议在two前面加these或者those,这样比较符合英语的表达习惯) have distinct advantages respectively,and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.

On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing knowledge from experience might save a plenty of time,for (我觉得这里是笔误吧,要写句号哦),example, with the help of your experienced colleagues ,some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals ,and perhaps at last you fail to tackle it.(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)In addtion,learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to get to know a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than study a lot of travel books at home which(一定要在前面加逗号,这句话必须是非限定性定语从句,不是可加可不加的那种) may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which are crucial for your employment opportunities and these techniques have to be studied and managed throughout practices.

On the other hand, some people are likely inclined to expand and deepen their knowledge from books,especially for children and old people.for example,due to the sake of safety, in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds,as reading
is not necessary to need (不合习惯)a special time and a special place,the increasing number of people(加了the主语不再是people而是number) have formed a good habit to read whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.

In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement,consequently most people consider it childish to seek study for its own sake.(第三段开头有2个,最后一段有2个标点的错,我想是笔误,呵呵,是我鸡婆啦)

([FONT=宋体]最后一句是看了这里的一个帖子说,希腊人认为了娱乐而娱乐是很幼稚的,我
COPY[FONT=宋体]了一下,为了学习而学习是幼稚的,还是强调
enjoyable,[FONT=宋体]行吗?
)

IBT : 2007-04-17#116
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NN好勤奋哦.:wdb10:
偶好久不写英文作文了哦,我也来读读. 搀和一下下:wdb19:
借个小马甲,太好了:wdb6:
帮俺们看看,被你掐死都值啦:wdb5:

IBT : 2007-04-17#117
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很喜欢NN写的长句子哦.优点多多!:wdb10: :wdb10:
给点儿小的建议,愿与NN讨论.





Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option for people these days due to limited time .However,getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches(建议在two前面加these或者those,这样比较符合英语的表达习惯) have distinct advantages respectively,and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.

On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing knowledge from experience might save a plenty of time,for (我觉得这里是笔误吧,要写句号哦),example, with the help of your experienced colleagues ,some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals ,and perhaps at last you fail to tackle it.(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)In addtion,learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to get to know a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than study a lot of travel books at home which(一定要在前面加逗号,这句话必须是非限定性定语从句,不是可加可不加的那种) may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which are crucial for your employment opportunities and these techniques have to be studied and managed throughout practices.

On the other hand, some people are likely inclined to expand and deepen their knowledge from books,especially for children and old people.for example,due to the sake of safety, in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds,as reading
is not necessary to need (不合习惯)a special time and a special place,the increasing number of people(加了the主语不再是people而是number) have formed a good habit to read whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.

In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement,consequently most people consider it childish to seek study for its own sake.(第三段开头有2个,最后一段有2个标点的错,我想是笔误,呵呵,是我鸡婆啦)

([FONT=宋体]最后一句是看了这里的一个帖子说,希腊人认为了娱乐而娱乐是很幼稚的,我
COPY[FONT=宋体]了一下,为了学习而学习是幼稚的,还是强调[/FONT]enjoyable,[FONT=宋体]行吗?[/FONT])

小马甲MM谢谢啦,来
一个

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#118
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I 老师,下面几处微小地方,不知挑的对不?:wdb4:
The speaker maintains it is more benefitial that students study the same national curriculm before they go to college than the different courses determined by different parts. Nowadays,I concede that many countries unify the courses in junior and senior schools, whereas I donot consider doing like this is helpful for students and disagree with the statement either. As my point of view, schools in different parts should have right(rights) to determine which academic courses to offer.

To begin with, I donnot(
don’t) think the same national courses are necessary. Maybe some people will oppose it and assert that only estabishing the uniform standard, can the quality of education be ensured. Contrarily, a school will take it's reputation seriously; even there is no restriction about curriculum, the governor of the school will also choose the most crucial courses. Though we have not the same national curriculum, we have the same principle about how to cultivate a qualified person; and according(to) this, the school will choose([FONT=宋体]缺宾语,或者[/FONT]have choices) advisably. Confessedly, any school will not discard an acknowledged important couse, for instance math, Language; because they do not want their students uncompetitive in the society, furthermore, they know the quality of students is the life of the school. In conclusion, the same national courses extremely is needless.


Secondly, if schools in different parts have no freedom(
don’t have freedom) to determine which academic courses to offer, many problems would be caused. Because many coutries have not only one nation, such as China which has 56 different nations, and many of them have their own languages and ,even, characters; it is impossible(for them) to accept (all of them into [FONT=宋体]去掉[/FONT]) the same national curriculum, while rejecting them is also unjust for the nations. Especially(for) some distinct regional culture[FONT=宋体]([/FONT]s[FONT=宋体])[/FONT], if we do not transfer it, it will be lost. In this situation, the best solution is admitting schools choose the academic courses according to their needs.

Finally, everyone knows schools are not factories which produce robots, consequently they do not need the same academic courses as factories need fixed program and sembling line. Insteadly, every school should offer the most suitable curriculum to facilitate students' growing up. Not only the need of education but the need of students should be taken into account in the process of deciding a curriculum. Via catering this need, schools can also form their own features to develop themselves.

The analyse above has demonstrated that for a country allowing schools to determine their academic courses is much more appropriate. Of course, choosing same national curriculm may also have a few advantages, for example, the school are more simple to managed and the qualities of shools are easier to compare; but through the effective supervision of relevant departments, different shools enact different courses will do things better.
__________________

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#119
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很喜欢NN写的长句子哦.优点多多!:wdb10: :wdb10:
给点儿小的建议,愿与NN讨论.





Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option for people these days due to limited time .However,getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two approaches(建议在two前面加these或者those,这样比较符合英语的表达习惯) have distinct advantages respectively,and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.

On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing knowledge from experience might save a plenty of time,for (我觉得这里是笔误吧,要写句号哦),example, with the help of your experienced colleagues ,some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals ,and perhaps at last you fail to tackle it.(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)In addtion,learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to get to know a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than study a lot of travel books at home which(一定要在前面加逗号,这句话必须是非限定性定语从句,不是可加可不加的那种) may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which are crucial for your employment opportunities and these techniques have to be studied and managed throughout practices.

On the other hand, some people are likely inclined to expand and deepen their knowledge from books,especially for children and old people.for example,due to the sake of safety, in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds,as reading
is not necessary to need (不合习惯)a special time and a special place,the increasing number of people(加了the主语不再是people而是number) have formed a good habit to read whenever or wherever they are available . Last but not least, all advanced technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.

In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement,consequently most people consider it childish to seek study for its own sake.(第三段开头有2个,最后一段有2个标点的错,我想是笔误,呵呵,是我鸡婆啦)

([FONT=宋体]最后一句是看了这里的一个帖子说,希腊人认为了娱乐而娱乐是很幼稚的,我
COPY[FONT=宋体]了一下,为了学习而学习是幼稚的,还是强调
enjoyable,[FONT=宋体]行吗?
)



谢谢马甲,太感谢了:wdb6: ,再修改一遍,你要常来指导呀:wdb19:

IBT : 2007-04-17#120
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好啊,太好了啊
容我改改啊

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#121
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧

马甲,I 老师,再贴(根据马甲的意见)

Obtaining knowledge directly from practical experience has become more of an option for people these days due to limited time .However,getting the useful resources from books may be the mainstream in the future.Two those approaches have distinct advantages respectively,and the choice is more a matter of personal preference.
On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing knowledge from experience might save a plenty of time.For example, with the help of your experienced colleagues ,some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals with the failure in the end(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)In addtion,learning from actual cases is an effective way to widen your horizon,for example,the best way to get to know a strange country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than study a lot of travel books at home, which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents views.Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which are crucial for your employment opportunities and these techniques have to be studied and managed throughout practices.

On the other hand, some people are likely inclined to expand and deepen their knowledge from books,especially for children and old people.for example,due to the sake of safety, in some schools chlildren under 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have to know the colourful insects and various plants from books replacing with observing them carfully in the outskirts.Compared with young people,the old men are less to acquire knowledge on purpose,therefore they prefer to gain the information they need by reading books in a peaceful pace and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life.Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds and also reading is regarded as a leisure activity by some people who have formed a reading habit in their spare time.Last but not least, all cutting-edges sciences and technologies are written in words before applying them into practice.

In short, from which channel your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement,
consequently most people consider it childish to seek study for its own sake


IBT : 2007-04-17#122
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Zz去看看我把第一页第一篇作了个目录
咱以后就把最终稿定在一个上了,这些过程稿就不往上列了,你说OK不?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#123
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Zz去看看我把第一页第一篇作了个目录
咱以后就把最终稿定在一个上了,这些过程稿就不往上列了,你说OK不?

OK,谢谢I老师,偶看明白了,看不明白也不敢说,反正犯错误,老师及时纠正就好了:wdb6:

偶提议:最终定稿,在每篇EASSY发表后一个月内,因为要给其他TZ一定的时间来批改,自己也可以在这期间反省,发现不足,及时修改,可以吗?具体多长时间,还请老师定吧.

IBT : 2007-04-17#124
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OK,谢谢I老师,偶看明白了,看不明白也不敢说,反正犯错误,老师及时纠正就好了:wdb6:

偶提议:最终定稿,在每篇EASSY发表后一个月内,因为要给其他TZ一定的时间来批改,自己也可以在这期间反省,发现不足,及时修改,可以吗?具体多长时间,还请老师定吧.
可反复修改,定了再改都行:)

IBT : 2007-04-17#125
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对了,可快别叫老师啦,俺,俺

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#126
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对了,可快别叫老师啦,俺,俺

那叫啥?

IBT : 2007-04-17#127
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干脆叫“I拍“吧
不行,又一想怎么听着跟爱拍马P似的,这个俺不爱,呵呵
随便叫,就叫IBT 吧,我变态,呵呵

紫竹林 : 2007-04-17#128
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天哪,这个帖子可真火啊
占个位

angelonduty : 2007-04-17#129
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

各路大虾:
这个帖子的思路的内容都很好,我给置顶了.
我回帖不多,但每篇都在吃力地看,费劲地学.
谢谢各位!

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#130
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天哪,这个帖子可真火啊
占个位

欢迎,欢迎,:wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb6:

帮偶看看,提下意见:wdb19:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#131
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing gaining knowledge from through experience might save a plenty of time. For example, with the help of your拿掉 experienced colleagues ,you may solve (这里要用主语,因为是你从中获得知识)some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes, while you may take longer time in checking with the operation manuals. instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals with the failure in the end(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#132
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

In addtion,Secondly(用了FIRSTLY,这里最好用Secondly), learning from actual practical cases is an effective way to widen your horizonknowledge (主题词不要随便换),. fFor example,the best way to get to know a strange foreign country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than to study a lot of various travel books at home., You might have which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents different views.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#133
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

用词还要仔细琢磨!

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#134
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which are crucial for your employment opportunities and these techniques have to be studied and managed throughout practices.

这个例子不恰当,你讲TEAM WORK,和academic knowledge关系不大,和interpersonal skills 有关系,但是是两种东西.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#135
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

On the other hand, some people, especially children and old people, are likely inclined to expand and deepen obtain (书面语能用一个单词的不用两个或词组) their knowledge from books,especially for children and old people.for example,due to the sake of safety, in some schools, chlildren under age 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have have got to know the various colourful insects and various plants from reading books replacing with rather than throughobserving them carfully outside in the outskirts.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#136
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现在你写作的框架还可以,但你的问题是组句和用词,以及选恰当的例子.另外连结词也要注意.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#137
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

strange 是怪怪的,讲一个人一个国家strange不是很好的词.比如北韩很strange

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#138
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

没有人告诉你写长句显示你的水平,除非中国的老师和X东方.
我在MCGILL的老师都是告诉我尽量用简单的句子和词汇把问题说清楚.因为写作的目的首先是让人懂,其次再追求其它方面的东西.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#139
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Compared with young people,the old men(口语且有歧视) senior people are less to acquire knowledge on purpose.,Ttherefore they prefer to gain the information they need(多余) by reading books in a peaceful pace and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life
两个不同的东西不要并列.
这个长句很不好.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#140
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

Compared with young people, senior people are less to acquire knowledge on purpose.Therefore they prefer to gain the information by reading books at their own pace. and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life不懂?

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#141
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds and also reading is regarded as a leisure activity by some people who have formed a reading habit in their spare time.
不懂.books 怎么are enjoying ?不要把不同的东西并列.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#142
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Last but not least(?), all explicit knowledge about thecutting-edges of sciences and technologies are written in words precisely and formally articulated prior to transfering the research results of sciences and technologies into production.before applying them into practice.

IBT : 2007-04-17#143
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Last but not least(?), all explicit knowledge about thecutting-edges of sciences and technologies are written in words precisely and formally articulated prior to transfering the research results of sciences and technologies into production.before applying them into practice.

"Last but not least"这个绝对新东方的老师们提过:wdb4:
俺又查了一下,是这样说的
An introduction, often on stage, indicating that the person announced last is no less important than those introduced earlier.

IBT : 2007-04-17#144
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尽管知道看点评也是很好的学习方式,可心里还有一点点

Zz为啥大家都改你的文章,却没人搭理俺呢

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#145
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In short, from which channel 因为是结语要重述一下你讲的两个方面your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement,
consequently most people consider it childish to seek study for its own sake.
和中文不一样,要用句号.

In conclusion, individuals may take different ways to acquire knowledge, as this essay discussed, either from books or from practical experience. However, most people choose the way to gain knowledge from reading books.

结尾是重述主题.不要找希奇古怪的结尾.和中文不一样.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#146
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尽管知道看点评也是很好的学习方式,可心里还有一点点

Zz为啥大家都改你的文章,却没人搭理俺呢

偶还没仔细读你的呢.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#147
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"Last but not least"这个绝对新东方的老师们提过:wdb4:
俺又查了一下,是这样说的
An introduction, often on stage, indicating that the person announced last is no less important than those introduced earlier.

呵呵!要看怎么用,恰当不?

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#148
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Books and experience are the two main resources that we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefers direct experience, however, I will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want through looking up in books, the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.

First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals a book, especially a professional book, teaches us an certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, just by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did. For example, even like our education, if we learn botany science from the text book, we can know from the appearance of plants to the inner fabric; because experts in this period ?have research them throughlly. unfortunately, from our own direct experience maybe we can get just the shallow acquaintance because we have not complex no sophisticated equipments and advanced researching methods like those scientists do to help us get more knowledge.

你写的较好没大错.除了一些大小写标点个别词汇

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#149
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另外不要只用get一个动词.

IBT : 2007-04-17#150
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First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals a book, especially a professional book, teaches us an(a) certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, just by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did. For example, even like our education(全去掉), if we learn botany science(明白了) from the text book, we can know from the appearance of plants to the inner fabric; because experts in this period?俺想写field,咋不知道怎么写成这个了,呵呵,短练) have research(ed) them throughlly. u(U)nfortunately, from our own direct experience maybe we can get just the shallow(或许应该用superficial?) acquaintance because we have not complex no sophisticated (枉我还看了前面这个词的介绍)equipments and advanced researching methods like(这个还迷糊,不懂?) those scientists do to help us get more knowledge.

真是 短练

IBT : 2007-04-17#151
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另外不要只用get一个动词.
记得看书上写过,写作文的时候最好别用这些狗皮膏药词汇,什么get,make,之类的贴那儿都成。
嗯,gain obtain acquire win achieve attain
目标:扩大词汇,不但认识还得会用

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#152
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记得看书上写过,写作文的时候最好别用这些狗皮膏药词汇,什么get,make,之类的贴那儿都成。
嗯,gain obtain acquire win achieve attain
目标:扩大词汇,不但认识还得会用

那是起步阶段.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#153
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superficial acquaintance 那叫迷信.a superficial acquaintance with Eastern religions

alex_lz2005 : 2007-04-17#154
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啊呀,來學習。。。

IBT : 2007-04-17#155
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superficial acquaintance 那叫迷信.a superficial acquaintance with Eastern religions
彻底晕~,回到我奶奶的阶段了
那究竟应该用哪个词来表示“肤浅的不深入的认识“呢

IBT : 2007-04-17#156
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啊呀,???。。。
Alex 请你慢慢看
看出门道就出手

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#157
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Unfortunately, from our own direct observations we can only get some general information, for example, data on the growth trends of the plants, since we have no sophisticated equipments and advanced research methods as scientists do.

alex_lz2005 : 2007-04-17#158
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Alex 请你慢慢看
看出门道就出手
著著,不咿俺英遮太差。。。:wdb4::wdb4:???主。。。

IBT : 2007-04-17#159
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Unfortunately, from our own direct observations we can only get some general information, for example, data on the growth trends of the plants, since we have no sophisticated equipments and advanced research methods as scientists do.
感觉就一个字:fluent

IBT : 2007-04-17#160
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记得看书上写过,写作文的时候最好别用这些狗皮膏药词汇,什么get,make,之类的贴那儿都成。
嗯,gain obtain acquire win achieve attain
目标:扩大词汇,不但认识还得会用

那是起步阶段.

有些明白了
大师通常都会把这些humble的小词用得格外beautiful

IBT : 2007-04-17#161
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各路大虾:
这个帖子的思路的内容都很好,我给置顶了.
我回帖不多,但每篇都在吃力地看,费劲地学.
谢谢各位!
斑竹美眉
万分感谢


IBT : 2007-04-17#162
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天哪,这个帖子可真火啊
占个位
你咋不写了,继续吧,互相修改

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#163
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谢谢,2008,IBT及楼上的各位了,辛苦了.认真学习后,再修改.

IBT : 2007-04-17#164
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Zz你起的好早啊

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#165
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题目2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."

(红色为已更改处,蓝色表示不解,盼望大家指点)



The speaker that maintains it is more beneficial that all students study the same national curriculum before they go to college than (这还用加什么动词吗)the different courses determined by different schools. Nowadays, I concede that many countries unify(这个词可以吗) the courses in junior and senior schools(有更好的说法吗), whereas I do not consider doing like this is helpful for students and disagree with the statement either. As my point of view, schools in different parts should have rights(忘了复数) to determine which academic courses to offer.


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Some research reveals that it is more beneficial for students and schools that state primary and secondary schools should have a national curriculum than the schools set their own curriculums. At the present, many countries such as England, Wales and Northern Ireland have introduced a national curriculum at primary and secondary school level. However, based on my research, a national curriculum has caused some negative impacts on the students and schools. My point is that all schools including both state and independent schools should have their own rights to set their own curriculums.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#166
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第二段不能用什么I think....这个很弱,你能根据我写的第一段再重写后面吗?

假定你做了一个Research,你是用survey的方法做的研究,采了多少样本,做了什么的questionaire.然后你得出一个什么结论.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#167
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Questionnaire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
A questionnaire is a research instrument consisting of a series of questions and other prompts for the purpose of gathering information from respondents. Although they are often designed for statistical analysis of the responses, this is not always the case. The questionnaire was invented by Sir Francis Galton.

Questionnaires have advantages over some other types of surveys in that they are cheap, do not require as much effort from the questioner as verbal or telephone surveys, and often have standardized answers that make it simple to compile data. However, such standardized answers may frustrate users. Questionnaires are also sharply limited by the fact that respondents must be able to read the questions and respond to them. Thus, for some demographic groups conducting a survey by questionnaire may not be practical.

As a type of survey, questionnaires also have many of the same problems relating to question construction and wording that exist in other types of opinion polls.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#168
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Survey
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
For Wikipedia's survey, see Wikipedia:Current surveys.
There are several uses of the word survey, relating to two primary meanings: surveys to record the position of items or fixed points on Earth and beyond, such as astronomical surveys, bird surveys, and the broad field of land surveying; and statistical surveys estimating the number of people or other items, such as animals, organisations, or messages. Population censuses are statistical surveys which attempt to include every item in the population.

The names of some scientific organisations incorporate the word "Survey", even though they do not primarily conduct surveys.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#169
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Sampling (statistics)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Sample survey)
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Sampling is that part of statistical practice concerned with the selection of individual observations intended to yield some knowledge about a population of concern, especially for the purposes of statistical inference. Each observation measures one or more properties (weight, location, etc.) of an observable entity enumerated to distinguish objects or individuals. Results from probability theory and statistical theory are employed to guide practice.

The sampling process consists of 7 stages:

Definition of population of concern
Specification of a sampling frame, a set of items or events that it is possible to measure
Specification of sampling method for selecting items or events from the frame
Determine the sample size
Implement the sampling plan
Sampling and data collecting
Review of sampling process

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#170
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The speaker 是谁?

IBT : 2007-04-17#171
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:)呵呵,来了啊
我现在还在看那个英文报道呢
看到头疼才看了一半
有好多GRE单词:(

IBT : 2007-04-17#172
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The speaker 是谁?
就是题目那个认为应该上同样课的人,呵呵
因为我看很多人这样写也就这样写了:(

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#173
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不要急着写,一段一段来好了.

IBT : 2007-04-17#174
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第二段不能用什么I think....这个很弱,你能根据我写的第一段再重写后面吗?

假定你做了一个Research,你是用survey的方法做的研究,采了多少样本,做了什么的questionaire.然后你得出一个什么结论.
嗯,我试试

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#175
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Zz你起的好早啊

我5点20就起来写你的第二篇题目了:wdb15:
心里总在想,不努力太对不起大家了
现在起来第一件事就是看各位老师的修改:wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#176
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各路大虾:
这个帖子的思路的内容都很好,我给置顶了.
我回帖不多,但每篇都在吃力地看,费劲地学.
谢谢各位!

为啥回的不多,我们需要你:wdb19:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#177
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On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing gaining knowledge from through experience might save a plenty of time. For example, with the help of your拿掉 experienced colleagues ,you may solve (这里要用主语,因为是你从中获得知识)some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes, while you may take longer time in checking with the operation manuals. instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals with the failure in the end(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)

我还是想表达虽然花费很长时间,但最后还是失败了,后面加一个并列:

.....manuals and fail to tackle it in the end.可以吗?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#178
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In addtion,Secondly(用了FIRSTLY,这里最好用Secondly), learning from actual practical cases is an effective way to widen your horizonknowledge (主题词不要随便换),. fFor example,the best way to get to know a strange foreign country’s culture and traditons is to go there personally rather than to study a lot of various travel books at home., You might have which may result in misunderstandings as different authors hold differents different views.

:wdb11: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#179
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Also, undoubtedly, as a team player, you are not only requested to master the academic knowledge,but also the interpersonal skills which are crucial for your employment opportunities and these techniques have to be studied and managed throughout practices.

这个例子不恰当,你讲TEAM WORK,和academic knowledge关系不大,和interpersonal skills 有关系,但是是两种东西.

team work 也需要专业知识,对吗?
interpersonal skills 也是知识,从实践中学的知识是多方面的,是吗?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#180
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On the other hand, some people, especially children and old people, are likely inclined to expand and deepen obtain (书面语能用一个单词的不用两个或词组) their knowledge from books,especially for children and old people.for example,due to the sake of safety, in some schools, chlildren under age 10 years old are forbidden to go out for excursion, they have have got to know the various colourful insects and various plants from reading books replacing with rather than throughobserving them carfully outside in the outskirts.
:wdb11: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#181
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现在你写作的框架还可以,但你的问题是组句和用词,以及选恰当的例子.另外连结词也要注意.

TKS,偶近期再贴一篇IBT出的题目:wdb6: ,请08老师指教:wdb19:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#182
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strange 是怪怪的,讲一个人一个国家strange不是很好的词.比如北韩很strange

:wdb11: :wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-17#183
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我5点20就起来写你的第二篇题目了:wdb15:
心里总在想,不努力太对不起大家了
现在起来第一件事就是看各位老师的修改:wdb17:
可爱的Zz:)

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#184
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没有人告诉你写长句显示你的水平,除非中国的老师和X东方.
我在MCGILL的老师都是告诉我尽量用简单的句子和词汇把问题说清楚.因为写作的目的首先是让人懂,其次再追求其它方面的东西.
:wdb11: :wdb9:


Compared with young people, senior people are less to acquire knowledge on purpose.Therefore they prefer to gain the information by reading books at their own pace. and are reluctant to put themselves into a real active life不懂?

说老人不太愿意到实际生活中学经验,因为他们PACE慢,宁可自己在家里看书

IBT : 2007-04-17#185
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:wdb11: :wdb9:




说老人不太愿意到实际生活中学经验,因为他们PACE慢,宁可自己在家里看书
我现在困的要命,头晕乎乎,就是不想睡,整个一亢奋:wdb14:

yangyang2005 : 2007-04-17#186
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我现在困的要命,头晕乎乎,就是不想睡,整个一亢奋:wdb14:
:wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#187
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Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds and also reading is regarded as a leisure activity by some people who have formed a reading habit in their spare time.
不懂.books 怎么are enjoying ?不要把不同的东西并列.

我想说READING BOOKS,现在也是人们的一种消遣娱乐方式了,寓学与乐中,行吗?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#188
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我现在困的要命,头晕乎乎,就是不想睡,整个一亢奋:wdb14:

早点休息吧:wdb10: ,下面还有任务批改偶的作业呢:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-17#189
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小羊MM,你咋还这反应呢,:wdb5:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#190
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Last but not least(?), all explicit knowledge about thecutting-edges of sciences and technologies are written in words precisely and formally articulated prior to transfering the research results of sciences and technologies into production.before applying them into practice.

:wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb6:

yangyang2005 : 2007-04-17#191
good job,thanks

小羊MM,你咋还这反应呢,:wdb5:
:wdb4: 没有时间回应具体问题,只好精神上支持一下咯

你开的这个帖子真的很好

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#192
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尽管知道看点评也是很好的学习方式,可心里还有一点点

Zz为啥大家都改你的文章,却没人搭理俺呢

你已经可以当老师了,经08的确认北美培训出来的就是不一样:wdb10: :wdb17:

IBT : 2007-04-17#193
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早点休息吧:wdb10: ,下面还有任务批改偶的作业呢:wdb6:
嗯,
可是你知道吗,我发现咱们的眼睛太不厉害了,很多明显的小毛病都轻易逃脱了
一方面要练习写,一方面还要练习看啊

yangyang2005 : 2007-04-17#194
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给楼上几位加SW了,开心

yangyang2005 : 2007-04-17#195
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有时间再慢慢看、学习一下

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#196
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In short, from which channel 因为是结语要重述一下你讲的两个方面your absorbing the ample and wide knowledge is not important,the key is that you are able to enjoy the process of acquirement,
consequently most people consider it childish to seek study for its own sake.
和中文不一样,要用句号.

In conclusion, individuals may take different ways to acquire knowledge, as this essay discussed, either from books or from practical experience. However, most people choose the way to gain knowledge from reading books.

结尾是重述主题.不要找希奇古怪的结尾.和中文不一样.

:wdb26: :wdb1: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb20:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#197
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嗯,
可是你知道吗,我发现咱们的眼睛太不厉害了,很多明显的小毛病都轻易逃脱了
一方面要练习写,一方面还要练习看啊

:wdb11: :wdb10:

yangyang2005 : 2007-04-17#198
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大家该休息的时候还是要休息好,注意身体啊

zznn123456 : 2007-04-17#199
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你咋不写了,继续吧,互相修改


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Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#200
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team work 也需要专业知识,对吗?
interpersonal skills 也是知识,从实践中学的知识是多方面的,是吗?

这个中西方理解不一样skill 和knowledge不一样是两类东西

给你看个广告吧:
Candidates must possess a Masters degree in Library and/or Information Studies from an American Library Association accredited program and two (2) years of related experience. Strong knowledge of library services and programs, of library automation, of electronic reference tools, of the principles of collection development and of community relations are essential. An above average knowledge of information technology and experience with e-mail, the Internet, and MS-Word are necessary. The successful candidate will demonstrate interest in promoting reading. Written and spoken competence in English and French is required.

The successful candidate will possess leadership, communication, interpersonal and supervisory skills. A demonstrated sense of organization as well as a strong aptitude for public service, research, problem solving, analysis and teamwork is necessary.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-17#201
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skills是行为方面的,没有某专业知识的人也可有这些SKILLS.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#202
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作者: Beijing2008
Last but not least(?), all explicit knowledge about thecutting-edges of sciences and technologies are written in words precisely and formally articulated prior to transfering the research results of sciences and technologies into production.before applying them into practice.

慢,我觉得有些绕口令了.

Last, all explicit knowledge about the cutting-edges of sciences and technologies are precisely and formally articulated prior to be transferred to production.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#203
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这个中西方理解不一样skill 和knowledge不一样是两类东西

给你看个广告吧:
Candidates must possess a Masters degree in Library and/or Information Studies from an American Library Association accredited program and two (2) years of related experience. Strong knowledge of library services and programs, of library automation, of electronic reference tools, of the principles of collection development and of community relations are essential. An above average knowledge of information technology and experience with e-mail, the Internet, and MS-Word are necessary. The successful candidate will demonstrate interest in promoting reading. Written and spoken competence in English and French is required.

The successful candidate will possess leadership, communication, interpersonal and supervisory skills. A demonstrated sense of organization as well as a strong aptitude for public service, research, problem solving, analysis and teamwork is necessary.

:wdb11: :wdb19: :wdb17:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#204
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我现在困的要命,头晕乎乎,就是不想睡,整个一亢奋:wdb14:
那不好,伤了身体,学习还上瘾?:wdb25:

IBT : 2007-04-18#205
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:)刚刚是强迫自己睡吧,可还是想上家园来
好久都没灌水了

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#206
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引用:
作者: Beijing2008
Moreover,books are enjoying a wider application to serve as a major media to open people’s minds and also reading is regarded as a leisure activity by some people who have formed a reading habit in their spare time.
不懂.books 怎么are enjoying ?不要把不同的东西并列.



我想说READING BOOKS,现在也是人们的一种消遣娱乐方式了,寓学与乐中,行吗?
那也是people enjoy reading book....

IBT : 2007-04-18#207
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晚安喽,今天俺就倒着啦

IBT : 2007-04-18#208
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到这

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#209
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引用:
作者: Beijing2008
On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing gaining knowledge from through experience might save a plenty of time. For example, with the help of your拿掉 experienced colleagues ,you may solve (这里要用主语,因为是你从中获得知识)some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes, while you may take longer time in checking with the operation manuals. instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals with the failure in the end(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)

我还是想表达虽然花费很长时间,但最后还是失败了,后面加一个并列:

.....manuals and fail to tackle it in the end.可以吗?

For example, with the help of the experienced colleagues ,you may solve some computer problems related to the office tools within a few minutes, while you may fail to fix them although you take longer time in checking with the operation manuals alone by yourself.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#210
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晚安喽,今天俺就倒着啦

别灌了:wdb10: ,偶灌一会也走了
GOOD NIGHT.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#211
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引用:
作者: Beijing2008
On the one hand, firstly,it has been proved true that developing gaining knowledge from through experience might save a plenty of time. For example, with the help of your拿掉 experienced colleagues ,you may solve (这里要用主语,因为是你从中获得知识)some computer problems related to the office tools may be solved within a few minutes, while you may take longer time in checking with the operation manuals. instead of spending hours on checking the maintenance manuals with the failure in the end(这句话,我觉得要重新来写了. instead of这个介词词组转折得其实很好,但是它可以支配的宾语在语法上只能到manuals为止,但这个句子明显是在语意上是想管到后面and引导的从句.所以这个句子的结构要重新来安排哦.)

我还是想表达虽然花费很长时间,但最后还是失败了,后面加一个并列:

.....manuals and fail to tackle it in the end.可以吗?

For example, with the help of the experienced colleagues ,you may solve some computer problems related to the office tools within a few minutes, while you may fail to fix them although you take longer time in checking with the operation manuals alone by yourself.

谢谢!2008:wdb11: :wdb19:

IBT : 2007-04-18#212
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:)

借个马甲 : 2007-04-18#213
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"Books and experience(这两个并列欠考虑) are the two main resources that(必须用which,由后面的from所决定,理由就不用我讲了吧) we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring(用词欠妥) us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefers direct experience, however,(标点问题,不知道以后还要不要继续挑) I will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want through looking up in(词组用法错误,要不补宾语,要不换词组/词) books, the sum of experience from people preceding,(和前后的词组都不构成并列的结构关系,需要重写,并且用词也不地道) than learning from direct experience.

First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals( 建议此处加上that,文体正式又好断句)a book, especially a professional book, teaches us a certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, just by direct experience only(语意重复,去掉一个或者后移) can we get is the just(用词单调) point from what we did. (以上这句话,从on the contrary开始,发回重写, 中间的主语从句中还缺主语呢.结构混乱哦.) For example, even like our education, if we learn botany science from the text book, we can know from the appearance of plants to the inner fabric; because experts in this period ?have research them throughlly. unfortunately, from our own direct experience maybe we can get just the shallow acquaintance because we have not complex no sophisticated equipments and advanced researching methods like those scientists do to help us get more knowledge.

你写的较好没大错.除了一些大小写标点个别词汇"

紫竹林 : 2007-04-18#214
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凑个热闹吧,要不然自己还真是懒得动手,呵呵
考托能遇到就好了
题目2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."


These days, people have done more than ever before in advocating personal characters and features. But at present students, studying in elementary schools and middle schools, have no other choices but studying the same lessons, and no right to choose which course they should take. So there is a rising debate on whether the same lessons they take will hinder them develop their personality and whether students should be given wide choices in selecting courses. I personally think that we should take some measures to improve this situation, but must try carefully to change it.

It is reasonable that same lessons should be taught in elementary schools. When becoming an elementary school student, a child is just curious about the world. They are often surprised by the phenomena in nature and in daily lives, and are likely to turn to teachers and parents for help. Meanwhile, they are not mature enough to know what their interests are and where they should go to. In this stage, children should be encouraged to learn widely, and these lessons will be helpful in forming their commonsense.

With their growth, they should be given more and more opportunities in developing themselves. As going into junior middle school, students have already had a rough knowledge of their lives. Elective lessons, such as music, painting, and other concerning with arts, should be listed in the curriculum to cultivate students’ interests, since they have their own ideas and dreams of the future. Simultaneously, most lessons should be compulsory, which will be effective in discipline students and may be good to them.

As all discussed above, I stand on the side that the current situation of taking same lessons in schools should be changed, but measures should be carried out with care. As for middle school students, they should be granted more freedom in taking lessons, and some disciplines, the compulsory lessons for instance, are also necessary. If he is an elementary school student, I take leave to doubt that he is so independent and developed that he can decide on them. I advise that primary school students should take same lessons to get the basic knowledge in lives.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#215
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欢迎,欢迎!!!
啥时考?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#216
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老师都没来,偶先下手了:wdb4: ,共同学习,一会偶也贴一个,欢迎拍砖

These days, people have done more than ever before in advocating personal characters and features. But at present students, (去掉)studying in elementary schools and middle schools, (去掉)have no other choices but studying (与have 并列,应为动词,study)the same lessons, and no right to choose which course they should take(这句和前面的那句意思重复,可以去掉). So there is a rising debate on whether the same lessons they take will hinder them develop their personality andor)whether students should be given wide choices in selecting courses. I personally think that we should take some measures to improve this situation, but must try carefully to change it. (没看到论点,到底是支持还是反对,逻辑有点乱:wdb4:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#217
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"Books and experience(这两个并列欠考虑) are the two main resources that(必须用which,由后面的from所决定,理由就不用我讲了吧) we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring(用词欠妥) us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefers direct experience, however,(标点问题,不知道以后还要不要继续挑) I will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want through looking up in(词组用法错误,要不补宾语,要不换词组/词) books, the sum of experience from people preceding,(和前后的词组都不构成并列的结构关系,需要重写,并且用词也不地道) than learning from direct experience.

First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals( 建议此处加上that,文体正式又好断句)a book, especially a professional book, teaches usa certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, just by direct experience only(语意重复,去掉一个或者后移) can we get is the just(用词单调) point from what we did. (以上这句话,从on the contrary开始,发回重写, 中间的主语从句中还缺主语呢.结构混乱哦.) For example, even like our education, if we learn botany science from the text book, we can know from the appearance of plants to the inner fabric; because experts in this period ?have research them throughlly. unfortunately, from our own direct experience maybe we can get just the shallow acquaintance because we have not complex no sophisticated equipments and advanced researching methods like those scientists do to help us get more knowledge.

你写的较好没大错.除了一些大小写标点个别词汇"


马甲用的颜色好漂亮,偶喜欢:wdb20:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#218
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已经准备好新锅了,各位老师砸吧:wdb10: :wdb17::wdb19: ,都砸坏了也没事,写不好偶就不吃饭了:wdb14:
[FONT=宋体][/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]题目[/FONT]2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."

Recently the issue whether to provide the identical curriculum for the children in the different areas of the nation prior to their going to the higer education institutions is widely discussed .Some people hold an opinion that receiving the same academic courses is helpful for the students to build up their confidence to compete with peers,but the others disgree with it.My advice is that it is a wise choice for both students and schools to study the same national curriculum.

To start with,the quality of teching and learning must be always the central to the school.Undoubtedly,there are many imbalance among schools such as staff quality, students resources,financial situations and ect.,while how to diminish these differences is a great subject to be faced by the school authorities .One of the solutions may provide the same academic courses,thus teachers from the areas with insufficiency teaching resources are possible to contact the latest study materials & equipments via trainning throughout the country,which is an effective way to improve the teaching quality,as a result,school reputations are enhanced.

Secondly,current higher education recruitment system which has a universal test every summer for selecting qualified students to enter the colleges and universities contritutes to this request.Nowadays,both schools and parents are under control of this scheme and have to call for the demand of offering the same curriculum.For example,
English language test is compulsory in the recruitment,so even the children from the farest countryside have to take this test,how can they prepare it,if they do not have a chance to touch it,so the supply of the same courses is
fair to every child of the natiion.

Finally,affording the curriculum equally may contributes to other positive outcomes,such as fostering the sense of the competition and cooperation.Admittedlly,with the advent of the era of knowledge-based economy,the ability of competitiveness and the team work spirit badly needed secure the teenagers to have more opportunities to struggle for their future careers.On the basis of the same teaching schedule,peer pressure can be a positive force which can motivate and challenge the students to do their best and with the help of internet, students can discuss and debate with their fellows around the country to reach an agreement in the end,which can help each other a lot to result in the cooperation spirit increased greatly.

Overall,the government and school management should take the most of current resources to boost the option of offering the same academic courses in schools, thus the goal of each student may come into truth.




zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#219
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我每次贴上的字都很小,马甲你能告诉我咋办吗?

IBT : 2007-04-18#220
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俺来回答,就是在贴的时候进入高级模式,里面专门有调大小的啊

在这先谢谢小马甲mm:)

也欢迎阿紫
Zz也更新了,动作是贼快哦

俺还没来得及细看

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#221
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俺来回答,就是在贴的时候进入高级模式,里面专门有调大小的啊

在这先谢谢小马甲mm:)

也欢迎阿紫
Zz也更新了,动作是贼快哦

俺还没来得及细看

:wdb11: TKS,进入之后还需要先覆盖再放大吗?刚才试了一下,没敢发

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#222
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已经准备好新锅了,各位老师砸吧 ,都砸坏了也没事,写不好偶就不吃饭了

题目2
"A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer."

Recently the issue whether to provide the identical curriculum for the children in the different areas of the nation prior to their going to the higer education institutions is widely discussed .Some people hold an opinion that receiving the same academic courses is helpful for the students to build up their confidence to compete with peers,but the others disgree with it.My advice is that it is a wise choice for both students and schools to study the same national curriculum.

To start with,the quality of teching and learning must be always the central to the school.Undoubtedly,there are many imbalance among schools such as staff quality, students resources,financial situations and ect.,while how to diminish these differences is a great subject to be faced by the school authorities .One of the solutions may provide the same academic courses,thus teachers from the areas with insufficiency teaching resources are possible to contact the latest study materials & equipments via trainning throughout the country,which is an effective way to improve the teaching quality,as a result,school reputations are enhanced.

Secondly,current higher education recruitment system which has a universal test every summer for selecting qualified students to enter the colleges and universities contritutes to this request.Nowadays,both schools and parents are under control of this scheme and have to call for the demand of offering the same curriculum.For example,English language test is compulsory in the recruitment,so even the children from the farest countryside have to take this test,how can they prepare it,if they do not have a chance to touch it,so the supply of the same courses is fair to every child of the natiion.

Finally,affording the curriculum equally may contributes to other positive outcomes,such as fostering the sense of the competition and cooperation.Admittedlly,with the advent of the era of knowledge-based economy,the ability of competitiveness and the team work spirit badly needed secure the teenagers to have more opportunities to struggle for their future careers.On the basis of the same teaching schedule,peer pressure can be a positive force which can motivate and challenge the students to do their best and with the help of internet, students can discuss and debate with their fellows around the country to reach an agreement in the end,which can help each other a lot to result in the cooperation spirit increased greatly.

Overall,the government and school management should take the most of current resources to boost the option of offering the same academic courses in schools, thus the goal of each student may come into truth.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#223
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咋还是黑体呢?

借个马甲 : 2007-04-18#224
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我每次贴上的字都很小,马甲你能告诉我咋办吗?
IBT回帖好快哦. 呵呵,就是他说的样子.:wdb10:

IBT : 2007-04-18#225
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回213楼的马甲mm

Books and experience(这两个并列欠考虑不知道该怎么改:wdb14: ) are the two main resources which(必须用which,由后面的from所决定,理由就不用我讲了吧绝对的正确) we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring(用词欠妥,确实想了很久,但词汇少得可怜 没得选择,MM你看呢) us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefers direct experience, however,(标点问题,不知道以后还要不要继续挑,挑得好啊) I will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from(词组用法错误,要不补宾语,要不换词组/词补宾语让句子变得无比罗嗦,还是改用最简单的吧) books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding,(本来是想让the sum of experience from people preceding 当同位语,添了which are,变作定语从句,可否?想说前人,但不知道哪个是合适的词) than learning from direct experience.

First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that ( 建议此处加上that,文体正式又好断句)a book, especially a professional book, teaches usa certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, just(舍去) by direct experience only(语意重复,去掉一个或者后移) can we get is the just(用词单调俺还想着是不是可以跟前面舍去的just呼应呢:wdb4: ) point from what we did. (以上这句话,从on the contrary开始,发回重写, 中间的主语从句中还缺主语呢.我是想用了only 在句首是不是后面就要倒装?)

:wdb6: 3Q

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#226
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Books and experience(这两个并列欠考虑不知道该怎么改:wdb14: ) :wdb6: 3Q

因为你题目起的就不妥,要说two valid methods of gaining knowledge
就好写多了.请马甲给你把改过的写一下.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#227
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Recently the issue whether to provide the identical curriculum for the children in the different areas of the nation(假定是中国吧) prior to their going to the higer education institutions is widely discussed .Some people hold an opinion that receiving the same academic courses is helpful for the students to build up their confidence to compete with peers,but the others disgree with it.My advice is that it is a wise choice for both students and schools to study the same national curriculum.
这么多定冠词讲的是哪?特别是第一句,没有什么THE

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#228
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advice太弱.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#229
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To start with,the quality of teching and learning must be always the central to the school.Undoubtedly,there are many imbalance among schools such as staff quality, students resources,financial situations and ectan imbalance of resources and performance among schools.,while how to diminish these differences is a great subject to be faced by the school authorities .One of the solutions may provide the same academic courses,thus teachers from the areas with insufficiency teaching resources are possible to contact the latest study materials & equipments via trainning throughout the country,which is an effective way to improve the teaching quality,as a result,school reputations are enhanced.(这个长句完全是为了长而长)

IBT : 2007-04-18#230
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我刚刚把目录更新啦,这新的一轮风暴就又来了啊
呵呵,好的 ,让暴风雨来得更猛烈些吧

IBT : 2007-04-18#231
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因为你题目起的就不妥,要说two valid methods of gaining knowledge
就好写多了.请马甲给你把改过的写一下.
大人,我冤啊
可不是我起的啊,是ETS拿来折磨人的啊

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#232
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Secondly,current higher education recruitment system which has a universal test every summer for selecting qualified students to enter the colleges and universities contritutes to this request.Nowadays,both schools and parents are under control of ?那就是很适应了?this scheme and have to call for the demand of offering the same curriculum.For example,English language test is compulsory in the recruitment,so even the children from the farest countryside have to take this test,how can they prepare it,if they do not have a chance to touch it,so the supply of the same courses is fair to every child of the natiion. (又是一个人为长句)

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#233
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大人,我冤啊
可不是我起的啊,是ETS拿来折磨人的啊

你可该成主动..People gain knowledge from the two recources. One is from... the other is from...

IBT : 2007-04-18#234
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你可该成主动..People gain knowledge from the two recources. One is from... the other is from...
嗯,明了

另外,“前人“应该用那个好呢
比如说前人们已经为我们铺好了路的“前人“
看有人用predecessor,这个恰当吗?

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#235
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Finally,affording the curriculum equally may contributes to other positive outcomes,such as fostering the sense of the competition and cooperation.Admittedlly,with the advent of the era of knowledge-based economy,the ability of competitiveness and the team work spirit badly needed secure the teenagers to have more opportunities to struggle for their future careers.On the basis of the same teaching schedule,peer pressure can be a positive force which can motivate and challenge the students to do their best and with the help of internet, students can discuss and debate with their fellows around the country to reach an agreement in the end,which can help each other a lot to result in the cooperation spirit increased greatly.
这一段是中国特色,中国教育真是个灾难,从小无寻找知识的乐趣而只有生活的压力.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#236
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嗯,明了

另外,“前人“应该用那个好呢
比如说前人们已经为我们铺好了路的“前人“
看有人用predecessor,这个恰当吗?

可以

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#237
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Overall,the government and school management should take the most of current resources to boost the option of offering the same academic courses in schools, thus the goal of each student may come into truth.

那么以前没统一没一个学生的GOAL come into truth?总的来讲,你写的很好,个别词用的不当,注意冠词用法,但不要为了写长句而写长句.还有象最后一句不是很恰当.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#238
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2008,好!:wdb11: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17:



Recently the issue whether to provide the identical curriculum for the children in the different areas of the nation(假定是中国吧) prior to their going to the higer education institutions is widely discussed .Some people hold an opinion that receiving the same academic courses is helpful for the students to build up their confidence to compete with peers,but the others disgree with it.My advice is that it is a wise choice for both students and schools to study the same national curriculum.
这么多定冠词讲的是哪?特别是第一句,没有什么THE

1.the:wdb11:
2.peers------同龄人?

To start with,the quality of teching and learning must be always the central to the school.Undoubtedly,there are many imbalance among schools such as staff quality, students resources,financial situations and ectan imbalance of resources and performance among schools.,while how to diminish these differences is a great subject to be faced by the school authorities .One of the solutions may provide the same academic courses,thus teachers from the areas with insufficiency teaching resources are possible to contact the latest study materials & equipments via trainning throughout the country,which is an effective way to improve the teaching quality,as a result,school reputations are enhanced.(这个长句完全是为了长而长)

1.to start with 与to begin with 不一样吗?
2.the quality of teaching 教学质量?central表示核心内容,可以吗?

Overall,the government and school management should take the most of current resources to boost the option of offering the same academic courses in schools, thus the goal of each student may come into truth.

那么以前没统一没一个学生的GOAL come into truth?总的来讲,你写的很好,个别词用的不当,注意冠词用法,但不要为了写长句而写长句.还有象最后一句不是很恰当.

最后一句是我强加上的,我再考虑一下

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#239
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Secondly,current higher education recruitment system which has a universal test every summer for selecting qualified students to enter the colleges and universities contritutes to this request.Nowadays,both schools and parents are under control of ?那就是很适应了?this scheme and have to call for the demand of offering the same curriculum.For example,English language test is compulsory in the recruitment,so even the children from the farest countryside have to take this test,how can they prepare it,if they do not have a chance to touch it,so the supply of the same courses is fair to every child of the natiion. (又是一个人为长句)

under control of -----在...的控制下,想表达学校和家长在高考的体制的控制下

how can they prepare it ?表示"他们没学英语,怎么准备考试呀?"

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#240
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

advice太弱.

:wdb11: 用suggestion?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#241
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Finally,affording the curriculum equally may contributes to other positive outcomes,such as fostering the sense of the competition and cooperation.Admittedlly,with the advent of the era of knowledge-based economy,the ability of competitiveness and the team work spirit badly needed secure the teenagers to have more opportunities to struggle for their future careers.On the basis of the same teaching schedule,peer pressure can be a positive force which can motivate and challenge the students to do their best and with the help of internet, students can discuss and debate with their fellows around the country to reach an agreement in the end,which can help each other a lot to result in the cooperation spirit increased greatly.
这一段是中国特色,中国教育真是个灾难,从小无寻找知识的乐趣而只有生活的压力.

:wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10:

以前没办法,现在我学习是"寻求找知识的乐趣":wdb4:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#242
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

嗯,明了

另外,“前人“应该用那个好呢
比如说前人们已经为我们铺好了路的“前人“
看有人用predecessor,这个恰当吗?

I 老师好!

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#243
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

1.the:wdb11:
2.peers------同龄人?
可以用


1.to start with 与to begin with 不一样吗?

用其他读起来更好些.
2.the quality of teaching 教学质量?central表示核心内容,可以吗?
TEACH原文拼写错.CENTRAL是形容词前面不能有THE

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#244
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

EVERYTHING IS UNDER CONTROL就是一切很正常

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#245
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

both schools and parents are subjected to this scheme. 受制于...

Teenagers are subjected to peer pressure

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#246
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

起这么早?

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#247
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

To start with,the quality of teching and learning must be always the central to the school

Schools focus on teaching quality and learning quality.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#248
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

affording the curriculum equally may contributes to other positive outcomes,such as fostering the sense of the competition and
有点象法国德国英文.
A (The) national curriculum will make a unique contribution to communications, competitions, and cooperation among students and teachers from different schools and different areas.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#249
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how can they prepare it ?表示"他们没学英语,怎么准备考试呀?"

原句没"?"

IBT : 2007-04-18#250
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I 老师好!
小Z千万别在这样叫我啦,求您啦
刚刚去了图书馆
今天这得天气特别好
借了一本厚厚的webster的大词典
高兴,路上还看到一只红色的小鸟在草坪上,我赶紧掏相机,她却一动也不动的在那等我给她拍,呵呵,逗

IBT : 2007-04-18#251
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你们切磋的很厉害哦
我现在仍然头昏

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#252
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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It has been suggested that National Curriculum assessment be merged into this article or section. (Discuss)
The National Curriculum was introduced into England, Wales and Northern Ireland, as a nationwide curriculum for primary and secondary state schools following the Education Reform Act 1988. Notwithstanding its name, it does not apply to Independent Schools, which by definition are free to set their own curriculum, but it ensures that state schools of all Local Education Authorities have a common curriculum.

The Education Reform Act 1988 requires that all state students be taught a Basic Curriculum of Religious Education and the National Curriculum.

The purpose of the National Curriculum was to ensure that certain basic material was covered by all pupils. In subsequent years the curriculum grew to fill the entire teaching time of most state schools.

Contents [hide]
1 Principal Aims
2 Compulsory Subjects
2.1 Key Stages 1 and 2
2.2 Key Stage 3
2.3 Key Stage 4
3 See also
4 External links



[edit] Principal Aims
There are two principal aims to the National Curriculum:

Aim 1: The school curriculum should aim to provide opportunities for all pupils to learn and to achieve.
Aim 2: The school curriculum should aim to promote pupils' spiritual, moral, social and cultural development and prepare all pupils for the opportunities, responsibilities and experiences of life.
[edit] Compulsory Subjects

[edit] Key Stages 1 and 2
At Key Stage 1 (ages 5-7) and Key Stage 2 (Ages 7-11) all pupils in state education are required to study:

English (often taught as Literacy)
Mathematics (often taught as Numeracy)
Science
ICT
History
Geography
Art and Design
Music
Design Technology
Physical Education
Personal, Social and Health Education (PSHE)
In Wales, pupils are additionally required to study:

Welsh
The government proposes that by 2010, all pupils in Key Stage 2 will have 'an entitlement' to learn a modern foreign language [1].

Also, many schools provide a Sex Education programme. This must be an agreed policy of the individual school, and parents may withdraw their children from any such lessons.

Although schools are required to offer some form of Religious Education, which varies depending on the status of the school, it does not form a part of the National Curriculum.


[edit] Key Stage 3
At Key Stage 3 (ages 11-14) all students in state education are required to study:

English
Mathematics
Science
ICT
Geography
History
Art and Design
Design Technology
Modern Foreign Language
Music
Physical Education
Citizenship
Careers Education
A programme of Sex Education should also be provided in accordance with local policy. In Wales, pupils are additionally required to study:

Welsh

[edit] Key Stage 4
At Key Stage 4 (ages 14-16) all students in state education are required to study:

English
Mathematics
Science
ICT
Physical Education
Citizenship
Religious Education
Sex Education
Careers Education
and undertake a programme of work-related learning. Schools must provide religious education for all pupils, although parents can choose to withdraw their children. In Wales, pupils are additionally required to study:

Welsh

[edit] See also
Education in England
Education in Northern Ireland
Education in Wales
Education in Scotland

[edit] External links
National Curriculum online official website
Department for Education and Skills (England)
Welsh Assembly Government (Wales)
Department of Education (Northern Ireland)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Curriculum"

IBT : 2007-04-18#253
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呵呵,可以打一小岔不?
08问一下,为什么你的wikipedia总是要drum to navigation呢?

IBT : 2007-04-18#254
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哦,我突然觉得在这里navigation 是网站的一个导航功能吧

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-18#255
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哦,我突然觉得在这里navigation 是网站的一个导航功能吧
对是一个图标,COPY过来就成了JUMP TO...

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#256
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

EVERYTHING IS UNDER CONTROL就是一切很正常

:wdb1: :wdb26:
both schools and parents are subjected to this scheme. 受制于...
如Teenagers are subjected to peer pressure
:wdb11:

To start with,the quality of teching and learning must be always the central to the school

Schools focus on teaching quality and learning quality.
:wdb11:

affording the curriculum equally may contributes to other positive outcomes,such as fostering the sense of the competition and
有点象法国德国英文.
A (The) national curriculum will make a unique contribution to communications, competitions, and cooperation among students and teachers from different schools and different areas.
:wdb11: :wdb19: :wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#257
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

小Z千万别在这样叫我啦,求您啦
刚刚去了图书馆
今天这得天气特别好
借了一本厚厚的webster的大词典
高兴,路上还看到一只红色的小鸟在草坪上,我赶紧掏相机,她却一动也不动的在那等我给她拍,呵呵,逗

她爱美


喜欢天气好:wdb19:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-18#258
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起这么早?

never too early to learn(copy:never too old to learn,可以吗?)

学习不怕早:wdb4:

借个马甲 : 2007-04-19#259
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回IBT

回213楼的马甲mm

Books and direct experience(不记得在哪本书里读过的了,但是确实记得从书本学的东西被叫作“间接经验”。所以原来题目中的直接经验要搬过来,不可以省去) are the two main resources which we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring(bring后面可以加us和 depth of knowledge做宾语,但是再也没有能力去管辖宾补了,比较简单的改法就是去掉这2个形容词。复杂的话,这句话建议推翻重写。把insight这个词用进去,再写写看?) us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefers direct experience. However,(建议回去查一下however在表示转折的时候的词性哦,不要看见别人用两个逗号夹住它就自己学着乱用。它表示转折的时候,在句首要大写。或者前面是分号,则小写,但决不可以是逗号。如果你写I, however, will choose books.就非常好。) I will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.
First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that a book, especially a professional book, teaches us certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did. (----以上这句话,从on the contrary开始,发回重写, 中间的主语从句中还缺主语呢.----我是想用了only 在句首是不是后面就要倒装?----倒装不是问题,问题是can和is两个动词的出现不妥,你自己先试着改改哦,嘿,别偷懒)
3Q

YOU ARE WELCOME.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#260
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回IBT

回213楼的马甲mm

Books and direct experience(不记得在哪本书里读过的了,但是确实记得从书本学的东西被叫作“间接经验”。所以原来题目中的直接经验要搬过来,不可以省去) are the two main resources which we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring(bring后面可以加us和 depth of knowledge做宾语,但是再也没有能力去管辖宾补了,并且那两个形容词用来形容depth 也不合适,比较简单的改法就是去掉这2个形容词。复杂的话,这句话建议推翻重写。把insight这个词用进去,再写写看?) us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefers direct experience. However,(建议回去查一下however在表示转折的时候的词性哦,不要看见别人用两个逗号夹住它就自己学着乱用。它表示转折的时候,在句首要大写。或者前面是分号,则小写,但决不可以是逗号。如果你写I, however, will choose books.就非常好。) I will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.
First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that a book, especially a professional book, teaches us certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did. (----以上这句话,从on the contrary开始,发回重写, 中间的主语从句中还缺主语呢.----我是想用了only 在句首是不是后面就要倒装?----倒装不是问题,问题是can和is两个动词的出现不妥,你自己先试着改改哦,嘿,别偷懒)
3Q

YOU ARE WELCOME.

马甲你太用功了,偶不灌了,认真看你的修改:wdb17:

IBT : 2007-04-19#261
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我又写了一遍,但这次这个写法是我从来没试过的,一统胡编乱造
不过是经过查资料做功课才写出来的
呵呵
欢迎大家指正
我怎么越贴越心虚啦,哈哈
不行,壮起鼠胆,
人还是先闪:)
Some research reveals that it is more beneficial for students and schools that state primary and secondary schools should have a national curriculum than the schools set their own curriculums. At the present, many countries such as England, Wales and Northern Ireland have introduced a national curriculum at primary and secondary school level. However, based on my research, a national curriculum has caused some negative impacts on the students and schools. My point is that all schools including both state and independent schools should have their own rights to set their own curriculums.

My survey sample consists of 20 schoolmasters and 50 teachers who are all from primary and secondary schools across England, 50 parents of the pupils who are studying the national curriculum now, and 10 scientists of education. A total of 126 surveys were returned completely, yielding an overall rate of 97% for the all surveys. The questionnaire focuses on the responder's opinion to the degree of the(去掉) satisfaction with current national curriculum and its effect on pupils after performed 6 years.

Analysis to the result of surveys shows there is a high degree of consensus (92%) among the responders that it is a disaster waiting to happen, even a mass murder, that only a single authoritative curriculum is studied by over 2 million school students in England. More importantly, the curriculum cannot remain static; because the world is changing with each passing day, what people need to know, accordingly, renovate very often. Whether the change of society or the change of the schooling itself, the curriculum should response quickly and correspondingly. A schoolmaster, Howard Johnson, said: “everyone wants to set goals and targets and then succeed them; we, the school also want." Further more, if the school has freedom to choose courses, they can teach students more flexibly(灵活?). For example the teacher can add the knowledge of geology into history, but do not artificially divide them.

In addition, nearly nine in ten (89%) responders said they agree that the same national curriculum distort the study experience of students. The aim of education in primary and secondary schools is teaching pupils how to learn and cultivate their interest in learning. Unfortunately, the national curriculum merely emphasizes on the knowledge in the textbook. Teachers find more and more students usually absent from class; even coming, they still often are abstracted. Out of question, the humdrum courses should be changed (原来用的这个,replaced by something,觉得不好) more creative and more challenging. Moreover, because of the dissatisfaction with the same national curriculum, a significant number of the parents preferred their children educated at home; in this case they could assist them by arranging the learning plan more personally and more effectively.

In sum, this survey indicates the current national curriculum is not suited to the growing of students in primary and secondary schools. Instead, the school should be given more room to choose courses which inspires, challenges and helps young people to be prepared for the future. Just as Hannah Jones, director of NCSL's SLICT program, said: "Education flourishes if it successfully adapts to the demands and needs of the time."

对整篇文章的时态问题很糊涂,是否应该全部改为过去时呢?

IBT : 2007-04-19#262
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回IBT

回213楼的马甲mm

Books and direct experience(不记得在哪本书里读过的了,但是确实记得从书本学的东西被叫作“间接经验”。所以原来题目中的直接经验要搬过来,不可以省去) are the two main resources which we can gain knowledge from, but which one can bring(bring后面可以加us和 depth of knowledge做宾语,但是再也没有能力去管辖宾补了,比较简单的改法就是去掉这2个形容词。复杂的话,这句话建议推翻重写。把insight这个词用进去,再写写看?) us the depth of knowledge richer and broader? Maybe someone prefers direct experience. However,(建议回去查一下however在表示转折的时候的词性哦,不要看见别人用两个逗号夹住它就自己学着乱用。它表示转折的时候,在句首要大写。或者前面是分号,则小写,但决不可以是逗号。如果你写I, however, will choose books.就非常好。) I will choose books. Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.
First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that a book, especially a professional book, teaches us certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, by direct experience only can we get is the just point from what we did. (----以上这句话,从on the contrary开始,发回重写, 中间的主语从句中还缺主语呢.----我是想用了only 在句首是不是后面就要倒装?----倒装不是问题,问题是can和is两个动词的出现不妥,你自己先试着改改哦,嘿,别偷懒)
3Q

YOU ARE WELCOME.
:)呵呵:wdb11:
Books and direct experience are the two main resources which we can gain knowledge from, but which one can broaden our sight more? Maybe someone prefers direct experience. I, however, will choose books(还是这个感觉好). Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.
First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that a book, especially a professional book, teaches us certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, by direct experience the point from what we did is only what we get . on the contrary,from the direct experience, what we did is only what we can get.

发现改完了的句子果然不那么拗口了:wdb6:
就是不知道这下对了没,呵呵

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#263
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我又写了一遍,但这次这个写法是我从来没试过的,一统胡编乱造
不过是经过查资料做功课才写出来的
呵呵
欢迎大家指正
我怎么越贴越心虚啦,哈哈
不行,壮起鼠胆,
人还是先闪:)
Some research reveals that it is more beneficial for students and schools that state primary and secondary schools should have a national curriculum than the schools set their own curriculums. At the present, many countries such as England, Wales and Northern Ireland have introduced a national curriculum at primary and secondary school level. However, based on my research, a national curriculum has caused some negative impacts on the students and schools. My point is that all schools including both state and independent schools should have their own rights to set their own curriculums.

My survey sample consists of 20 schoolmasters and 50 teachers who are all from primary and secondary schools across England, 50 parents of the pupils studying the national curriculum now, and 10 scientists of education. A total of 126 surveys were returned completely, yielding an overall rate of 97% for the all surveys. The questionnaire focuses on the responder's opinion to the degree of the satisfaction with current national curriculum and the its effect after performed 6 years.

Analysis to the result of surveys shows there is a high degree of consensus (92%) among the responders that it is a disaster waiting to happen, even a mass murder, that only a single authoritative curriculum is studied by over 2 million school students in England. More importantly, the curriculum cannot remain static; because the world is changing with each passing day, accordingly, what people need to know renovate very often. Whether the change of society or the change of the schooling itself, the curriculum should response quickly and correspondingly. A schoolmaster, Howard Johnson, said: “everyone wants to set goals and targets and then succeed them, we, the school also want." Further more, if the school has freedom to choose courses, they can teach students more flexibly. For example the teacher can add the knowledge of geology into history, but not artificially divide them.

In addition, nearly nine in ten (89%) responders say they agree the same national curriculum distort the study experience of students. The aim of education in primary and secondary schools is teaching pupils how to learn and cultivate their interest in learning. Unfortunately, the national curriculum merely emphasizes on the knowledge in the textbook. Teachers find more and more students usually absent from class; even coming they still often are abstracted. Out of question, the humdrum courses should be replaced by something more creative and more challenging. Moreover, because of the dissatisfaction with the same national curriculum, a significant number of the parents preferred their children educated at home; in this case they could assist them arrange the learning plan more personally and more effectively.


In sum, this survey indicates the current national curriculum is not suited to the growing of students in primary and secondary schools. Instead, the school should be given more room to choose courses which inspires, challenges and will help young people to be prepared for the future. Just as Hannah Jones, director of NCSL's SLICT program says: "Education flourishes if it successfully adapts to the demands and needs of the time.

老师,一会帮你"批改":wdb4:,先把我的整理一下:wdb6:

紫竹林 : 2007-04-19#264
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ibt这回的数据和引用应该足够了,呵呵,
写的很好啊,
我还从来没有这么写过呢
以后也尝试一下

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#265
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Some research reveals that it is more beneficial for(both) students and schools that state primary and secondary schools should have a national curriculum than the schools set their own curriculums. At the present, many countries such as England, Wales and Northern Ireland have introduced a national curriculum at primary and secondary school level. However, based on my research,(providing) a national curriculum has caused some negative impacts on the students and schools. My point is that all schools including both state and independent schools should have their own rights to set their own curriculums.(should be authorized to offer their own academica courses)(题目给了curriculum 和academic
courses 就要替换用对吗?)

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#266
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My survey sample 去掉)consists of 20 schoolmasters and 50 teachers who are all from primary and secondary schools across England, 50 parentsfamilies)of the pupils studying the national curriculum now, and 10 scientists of education. A total of 126 surveys were returned completely, yielding an overall rate of 97% for the all surveys. The questionnaire focuses on the responder's opinion to the degree of the satisfaction with current national curriculum and the its effect after performed 6 years.

IBT : 2007-04-19#267
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呵呵, 小Zz你看看这段是谁写的:)不认真看贴,打pp

IBT : 2007-04-19#268
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Some research reveals that it is more beneficial for(both) students and schools that state primary and secondary schools should have a national curriculum than the schools set their own curriculums. At the present, many countries such as England, Wales and Northern Ireland have introduced a national curriculum at primary and secondary school level. However, based on my research,(providing) a national curriculum has caused some negative impacts on the students and schools. My point is that all schools including both state and independent schools should have their own rights to set their own curriculums.(should be authorized to offer their own academica courses)(题目给了curriculum 和academic
courses 就要替换用对吗?)
呵呵, 小Zz你看看这段是谁写的:)不认真看贴,打pp

IBT : 2007-04-19#269
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My survey sample 去掉)consists of 20 schoolmasters and 50 teachers who are all from primary and secondary schools across England, 50 parentsfamilies)of the pupils studying the national curriculum now, and 10 scientists of education. A total of 126 surveys were returned completely, yielding an overall rate of 97% for the all surveys. The questionnaire focuses on the responder's opinion to the degree of the satisfaction with current national curriculum and the its effect after performed 6 years.
呵呵,这个好:)

50 parentsfamilies)of the pupils可是这个我要是想表示是50位家长而非家庭呢?
My survey sample 去掉)这个sample 要是去掉了就不对了吧,后面是人,主语是survey

你看咱俩人在这连哪个对哪个错也确定不了,唉~

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#270
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不是你写的吗?:wdb5:

IBT : 2007-04-19#271
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My point is that all schools including both state and independent schools should have their own rights to set their own curriculums.(should be authorized to offer their own academica courses)(题目给了curriculum 和academic
courses 就要替换用对吗?)

呵呵,看来咱俩真是难兄难弟哦,这个新东方的老师常说:)

IBT : 2007-04-19#272
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不是你写的吗?:wdb5:
08觉得我写得太差,简直都没法改
就另起了一个开头,让我从写

借个马甲 : 2007-04-19#273
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回IBT

写得不错哦!

Books and direct experience are the two main resources which we can gain knowledge from, but which one can broaden our sight more? (改的好很多哦!加油!如果是我,我可能会这么写:but which one can help us to have an insight into the knowledge?) Maybe someone prefers direct experience. I, however, will choose books(还是这个感觉好). Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.
First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that a book, especially a professional book, teaches us certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, by direct experience the point from what we did is only what we get. on the contrary, from the direct experience, what we didis only what we can get. (如果是我,在不改变你的原意的情况下,我可能会这么写:on the contrary, by direct experience, the only knowledge we can acquire is merely from what we did. )

IBT : 2007-04-19#274
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小Zz俺先觉觉去啦,这两天严重睡眠不足
现在俺也过国内时间,是你的同步卫星,呵呵

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#275
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呵呵,这个好:)

50 parentsfamilies)of the pupils可是这个我要是想表示是50位家长而非家庭呢?
My survey sample 去掉)这个sample 要是去掉了就不对了吧,后面是人,主语是survey

你看咱俩人在这连哪个对哪个错也确定不了,唉~

1.偶看错了,是家长:wdb10:
2.因为你survey 的不就是人吗?:wdb4: :wdb5: :wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#276
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08觉得我写得太差,简直都没法改
就另起了一个开头,让我从写

是吗:wdb4:

IBT : 2007-04-19#277
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回IBT

写得不错哦!

Books and direct experience are the two main resources which we can gain knowledge from, but which one can broaden our sight more? (改的好很多哦!加油!如果是我,我可能会这么写:but which one can help us to have an insight into the knowledge?) Maybe someone prefers direct experience. I, however, will choose books(还是这个感觉好). Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.
First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that a book, especially a professional book, teaches us certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, by direct experience the point from what we did is only what we get. on the contrary, from the direct experience, what we did is only what we can get. (如果是我,在不改变你的原意的情况下,我可能会这么写:on the contrary, by direct experience, the only knowledge we can acquire is merely from what we did. )
呵呵,小马甲MM
谢谢你
也谢谢你鼓励,心里暖暖的
还想跟你说最后一句我改的时候也想了半天要不要换merely:)
高兴能和你想一样的词,你的这一句比我的那个强烈
但第一句,我怎么觉不出是which one 的感觉呢
可能还是没理解句意,我现在觉得是无论书还是直接经验都可以help us to have an insight into the knowledge 似的?:wdb2:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#278
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小Zz俺先觉觉去啦,这两天严重睡眠不足
现在俺也过国内时间,是你的同步卫星,呵呵

:wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10:

快休息吧:wdb19: :wdb19: :wdb19:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#279
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回IBT

写得不错哦!

Books and direct experience are the two main resources which we can gain knowledge from, but which one can broaden our sight more? (改的好很多哦!加油!如果是我,我可能会这么写:but which one can help us to have an insight into the knowledge?) Maybe someone prefers direct experience. I, however, will choose books(还是这个感觉好). Not only in depth but also in breadth can we get more what we want from books, which are the sum of experience from people preceding, than learning from direct experience.
First of all, comparing the difference of the depth we learn from these two ways reveals that a book, especially a professional book, teaches us certain knowledge systemically and from a level to a higher level; on the contrary, by direct experience the point from what we did is only what we get. on the contrary, from the direct experience, what we didis only what we can get. (如果是我,在不改变你的原意的情况下,我可能会这么写:on the contrary, by direct experience, the only knowledge we can acquire is merely from what we did. )

:wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17:

IBT : 2007-04-19#280
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1.偶看错了,是家长:wdb10:
2.因为你survey 的不就是人吗?:wdb4: :wdb5: :wdb6:
2,survey 的对象是人,但如果consist , 由什么组成的,就不能了吧?

小马甲在呢,让她给咱们正确答案吧
有请:)

借个马甲 : 2007-04-19#281
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呵呵,小马甲MM
谢谢你
也谢谢你鼓励,心里暖暖的
还想跟你说最后一句我改的时候也想了半天要不要换merely:)
高兴能和你想一样的词,你的这一句比我的那个强烈
但第一句,我怎么觉不出是which one 的感觉呢
可能还是没理解句意,我现在觉得是无论书还是直接经验都可以help us to have an insight into the knowledge 似的?:wdb2:
本来想着的,可是我打字的时候忘记打deeper了.:wdb4:

IBT : 2007-04-19#282
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:wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10:

快休息吧:wdb19: :wdb19: :wdb19:
嗯,舍不得不灌水,结果造成严重脱水:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-19#283
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本来想着的,可是我打字的时候忘记打deeper了.:wdb4:
:wdb11: 呵呵,明了,这聪明伶俐的小马甲也有难得糊涂啊

IBT : 2007-04-19#284
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ibt这回的数据和引用应该足够了,呵呵,
写的很好啊,
我还从来没有这么写过呢
以后也尝试一下
呀,紫竹林:)
帖子变得太快,俺没瞅见啊,太失利了,分分送上补偿啊

借个马甲 : 2007-04-19#285
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我倾向于有sample.

IBT : 2007-04-19#286
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我倾向于有sample.
好象似乎有可能差不离地有点不强烈
我们再等等08确认
恁俩可以辩但不能变(脸)
真理越辩越明
要是你们两个大拿在这别扭了,俺们的日子不好过了:wdb14:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#287
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好象似乎有可能差不离地有点不强烈
我们再等等08确认
恁俩可以辩但不能变(脸)
真理越辩越明
要是你们两个大拿在这别扭了,俺们的日子不好过了:wdb14:

不会的,偶喜欢马甲:wdb19: ,才女+美女:wdb6: :wdb9:

IBT : 2007-04-19#288
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不会的,偶喜欢马甲:wdb19: ,才女+美女:wdb6: :wdb9:

嗯,绝对的,俺们是好女不跟他一般见识,让着他呗,谁让他是男人呢:wdb6:
对不? :)

IBT : 2007-04-19#289
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偶去补觉啦,估计醒的时候这里又静悄悄的了,你们也都睡着啦

zznn123456 : 2007-04-19#290
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偶去补觉啦,估计醒的时候这里又静悄悄的了,你们也都睡着啦

see you tomorrow:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-20#291
善用标点,从最常用最易出错的comma开始

逗号/逗点在中文或英文里是再普通不过的一个标点符号;可是,它的用法在中文和英里可就不一定相同了。

2 Comma (,) 逗号、逗点

在英文里,逗号的用途有:

* 连接句子里不同的成份
* 分开句子里不同的成份
* 突出句子里的某个成份
* 替代句子里的某个成份
成份指:词、短语(phrase)、子句(clause)等。

2.1 连接句子里不同的成份

2.1.1 逗号用在以 and, but, for, nor, or, so, yet 等连接词的两个主要子句之间:

1. My father is fond of fishing, but my mother prefers hiking. (以 ,but 连接两个子句)

2. He painted the exterior of the house, and she painted the interior. (以,and 连接两个子句)
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2.2 分开句子里不同的成份

2.2.1 用逗号分开两个以上的并列形容词:(如果并列的形容词之间可加上and,but等,那就加上逗号;否不可)

1. That tall, distinguished, good looking fellow. (可写成 He is a tall and distinguished fellow.)

2. She is a little and old lady. (不可写成 She is a little, old lady.)
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2.2.2 在两个修饰主语的短语之间加上逗号(句短可不加):

1. While waiting for the bus on that cold rainy night, she started sneezing. (主语she)

2. At 10 o'clock the bus arrived. (不必写成 At 10 o'clock, the bus arrived.)
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2.2.3 在 Jr., Sr., Esq., Ph.D., F.R.S., Inc., 等名称之前及后都要加上逗号(除了所有格的名称):

1. They identified him as Howard R. Williams, Jr., chairman of their board. (,Jr.,)

2. That is Howard R. Williams, Jr.'s company. (,Jr.'s 后面不可再加逗号)
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2.2.4 在追问句之前加逗号:

1. Do it, won't you? (Do it 是命令语气,won't you?是追问)

2. You know the answer, don't you?

3. It is warm today, isn't it?
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2.2.5 一个以副词或副词短语开头的句子,如果它和前面的句子有关联的话,必须在有关副词或副词短语后加上逗号:

1. She believed he had the talent to succeed. Unfortunately, he was lazy.
(后一个句子以副词 unfortunately 开头,同时这个句子和前一个句子有直接的关联)
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2.2.6  在句子里有超过三个并列词或短语等,在最后一个,and, or, nor等之前加逗号:

1. He promised to supply the pencils, pens, and notebooks for the class.(简单说就是 pencils, pens, notebooks 要写成 pencils, pens, and notebooks)

2.  Her mother sells tomatoes, potatoes, apples, and peaches. (...apples,and...)

3.  She ran up the stairs, across the porch, and into the house. (up the staris, across the porch, into the house 是三个短语,在最后一个加 ,and)

4.  We all agreed that she was beautiful, that she was intelligent, and that she was ambitious. (三个 that she was...都是子句 )
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2.2.7  在句子中加上逗号,以免引起误解:

1. That she knew where the money was, was news to me. (如果was, was 之间不加逗号,是不是会引起误解呢?)

2. Outside, the lawn was cluttered with hundreds of broken branches.
   外面的草坪上到处是断枝。(如果outside 后去掉逗号, 那意思就变成“在草坪的外面到处是断枝。”)
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2.2.8  用逗号分开引用句

1.  “You are beautiful,” he said. (这个逗号要放在引号内)

2.  Our teacher said, “Freedom is not license.” (...said,)

3.  “No,” she said, “I was just testing your patience.” (No, /...said,)

4.  “Perhaps,”Tom responded, “I will try anyway.” (Perhaps, /responded,)
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2.2.9  逗号用以分开星期、月日、年份:

1.  On Monday, May 5,2000, her first child was born. (Monday, May 5,2000, )

2.  On March 8, 2003, he bought a new car. (March 8, 2003, )

3.  June 2000 is one of the most meaningful of my life. (只有月和年,就不必加逗号)
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2.2.10  逗号用以分开地名、省名、国名、街道名、巷弄名等:

1.  Linda lives at 1234 Amarillo Ave., #1, Palo Alto, CA 94303, U.S.A.
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2.2.11  逗号用在 such as 和 especially 的前面:

1.  They enjoy outdoor sports, such as hiking and riding.

2.  He likes all extracurricular activities, especially basketball playing.
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2.3  突出句子中某个插入成份(Parenthetical elements):
所谓插入成份,是指在句子中去掉它也可成立的成份。插入成份一般是感叹词、状语、副词子句等。

2.3.1 句子里插入的词、短语、子句等,加上逗号以示插入成份:

1. He knew, however, that no one would listen to his warning. ( 插入however)

2.  No, you may not come with us. (插入 No)
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2.3.2 用逗号分开“乃此非彼”的结构:

1. Jane, not Shirley, will attend the meeting. (是 Jane,不是 Shirley)

2. He wanted to see Mr. Wu, not Mr. Hu. (是吴先生,不是胡先生)

3. Some say the world will end in ice, not fire. (是冰,不是火)

4. It was her money, not her charm or personality, that first attracted him. (为的是她的财富,不是为了她的妩媚或个性)
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2.3.3 句中有非限制性的词或短语之类,以逗号标出以示插入成份:

1. Her husband, Bill, is a scientist. (Bill 为插入成份)

2. Kent Howard, my English teacher, is from America. (插入成份 my English teacher)

3. Her father, who is a famous scholar, teaches English.(插入成份 who is a famous scholar)

4. Eleanor, his wife of thirty years, suddenly decided to open her own business. (试将插入成份 his wife of thirty years 去掉,句子是否也能成立?)
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2.3.4 句中的城市名如果和它的省、州、国名并列,省、州、国名前后须加逗号:

1. We visited Hartford, Connecticut, last summer. (Connecticut 为插入成份)
2. Paris, France, is sometimes called "The City of Lights." (France 为插入成份)
3. Hartford, Connecticut's investment in the insurance industry is well known.(Connecticut's 为所有格式,后面不可加逗号喔)
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2.3.5 句中带着连接词(but, and, or...)的插入成份的前面不可加上逗号:

1. The Red Sox were leading the league at the end of May, but of course, they always do well in the spring. (but 的后面不可加逗号)

2. The Tigers spent much of the season at the bottom of the league, and even though they picked up several promising rookies, they expect to be there again next year. (and 的后面不可再加逗号)
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2.3.6  向人说话时,逗号放在对方名字或称谓之后、之前或者前后都加:

1.  John, come here. (John, 逗号在名字之后)

2.  Open the door, John. ( ,John 逗号放在名字之前)

3.  It is, Sir, not my fault.  ( , Sir, 逗号放在称谓前面和后面)
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2.4  替代句子里某个成份

2.4.1 用逗号替代句子里某部份,表示字词的省略:

1. The lion is the symbol of courage; the lamb, of meekness. (the lamb, of meekness 原本应该是 the lamb is the symbol of meekness)

2. George was the hard worker, John, the lazy one. (John, the lazy one 原本应该是 John was the lazy one)
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终于搞定。你说英文逗号容易用,还是中文逗号容易用?

IBT : 2007-04-20#292
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一定要学会,不能再犯这种低级错误了

紫竹林 : 2007-04-20#293
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:wdb17: :wdb17:
:wdb10: :wdb10:

2.4  替代句子里某个成份

2.4.1 用逗号替代句子里某部份,表示字词的省略:

1. The lion is the symbol of courage; the lamb, of meekness. (the lamb, of meekness 原本应该是 the lamb is the symbol of meekness)

2. George was the hard worker, John, the lazy one. (John, the lazy one 原本应该是 John was the lazy one)

这个有点看懂了
新概念4里面的第4课
"......by moving her elbow over a child's game of Lotto she was able to describe the figures and colours printed on it; and, in another instance, wearing stockings and slippers, to make out with her foot the outlines and colours of a picture hidden under a carpet."
蓝色的那个就是说的2.4.1吧
不过红色的那个怎么解释呢?我是说用法,迷惑阿:wdb2:

紫竹林 : 2007-04-20#294
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是不是in another instance是插入语,and后面可以用逗号?
不明白了,看糊涂了
呵呵

IBT : 2007-04-20#295
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原本以为记下上面的规则就可以了,这样看来完蛋廖,
咋么这么复杂啊

zznn123456 : 2007-04-21#296
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刚才把以前的作业翻出来,理了一下思路,改了改,现在胆子越来越大了:wdb4:

过几天都敢把小学的作业往上贴了:wdb1: ,各位老师快出手吧,偶先跑了:wdb6:

题目:some people think it is good for children to be brought up in the city than in the countryside.Do you agree or disagree with this opinion? Give reasons for your answer and include any relevant examples from your own knowledge or experience.write at least 250 words





It is said that personal characters result in one’s fate,therefore something always intrigues us how the character is formed?Personally I think that the places in which people grow up will exert a vital impact on shaping one’s characters.

On one hand,the children living in the city are easy approach to advanced technologies and good education which may widen their horizon,thus they will acquire more opportunities for the career in the futuer.Also,the city can provide better health system and schools offer various extracuricculum activities,these help will be conducive to children’s physical and mental health in their formative years.Nevertheless,subject to the furious competitions in big cities,parents spend less time with their kids,they let them enjoy PC games and TV programs to keep them quiet,which is definitely not good for children without parents accopanying.
Moreover,under parental laxity and excessive permissiveness,some children are becoming too proud and arrogant to master interpersonal skills, so it is difficult for them to become a team player.

On the other hand,the children growing up in the countryside are likely to cultivate the sense of independence,for example,they have to learn how to make both ends meet due to the financial stain.At the same time, the children from rual areas are relatively simple and naive and easy to obtain the content . However,due to the shortage of being well educated, the rival abilites will be decreased ,therefore it is hard for them to get higher positions offered.

In short, adimittedly the growth environment is one of the most import factors for man’s success, however,how far he can go depends on his efforts in the future.

IBT : 2007-04-21#297
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先赞一个,:)

zznn123456 : 2007-04-21#298
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先赞一个,:)

:wdb4: :wdb4: :wdb4: :wdb4:

IBT : 2007-04-21#299
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刚才把以前的作业翻出来,理了一下思路,改了改,现在胆子越来越大了:wdb4:

过几天都敢把小学的作业往上贴了:wdb1: ,各位老师快出手吧,偶先跑了:wdb6:

题目:some people think it is good for children to be brought up in the city than in the countryside.Do you agree or disagree with this opinion? Give reasons for your answer and include any relevant examples from your own knowledge or experience.write at least 250 words





It is said that personal characters result in one’s fate,therefore something always intrigues us how the character is formed?Personally I think that the places in which people grow up will exert a vital impact on shaping one’s characters.

On one hand,the children living in the city are easy (to)approach to advanced technologies and good education which may widen their horizon,thus they will acquire more opportunities for the career in the futuer.Also,the city can provide better health system and schools(感觉这也应该指出是城里的学校?) offer various extra curicculum activities,these help will be conducive to children’s physical and mental health in their formative years.Nevertheless,subject to the furious competitions in big cities,parents spend less time with their kids,(连词?)they let them enjoy PC games and TV programs to keep them quiet,which is definitely not good for children without parents accompanying.
Moreover,under parental laxity and excessive permissiveness(permission?),some children are becoming too proud and arrogant to master interpersonal skills, so it is difficult for them to become a team player.

On the other hand,the children growing up in the countryside are likely to cultivate the sense of independence,for example,they have to learn how to make both(and?) ends meet(给我讲讲这个短语) due to the financial stain.At the same time, the children from rural areas are relatively simple and naive and easy to obtain the content . However,due to the shortage of being well educated, the rival's abilites will be decreased ,therefore it is hard for them to get higher positions offered.

In short, adimittedly the growth environment is one of the most import factors for man’s success, however,how far he can go depends on his efforts in the future.

很多好词俺都没见过,学习:):wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-21#300
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很多好词俺都没见过,学习:):wdb6:

:wdb4: :wdb4: make both ends meet 就是收支平衡,不大手大脚

zznn123456 : 2007-04-21#301
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I老师,谢谢批改!

IBT : 2007-04-21#302
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:wdb11: 明了:wdb6:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#303
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题目:some people think it is good for children to be brought up in the city than in the countryside.Do you agree or disagree with this opinion? Give reasons for your answer and include any relevant examples from your own knowledge or experience.write at least 250 words





It is said that personal characters result in one’s fate,therefore something always intrigues us how the character is formed?Personally I think that the places in which people grow up will exert a vital impact on shaping one’s characters.

On one hand,the children living in the city are easy approach to advanced technologies and good education which may widen their horizon,thus they will acquire more opportunities for the career in the futuer.Also,the city can provide better health system and schools offer various extracuricculum activities,these help will be conducive to children’s physical and mental health in their formative years.Nevertheless,subject to the furious competitions in big cities,parents spend less time with their kids,they let them enjoy PC games and TV programs to keep them quiet,which is definitely not good for children without parents accopanying.
Moreover,under parental laxity and excessive permissiveness,some children are becoming too proud and arrogant to master interpersonal skills, so it is difficult for them to become a team player.

On the other hand,the children growing up in the countryside are likely to cultivate the sense of independence,for example,they have to learn how to make both ends? meet due to the financial stain.At the same time, the children from rual areas are relatively simple and naive and easy to obtain the content . However,due to the shortage of being well educated, the rival abilites will be decreased ,therefore it is hard for them to get higher positions offered.

In short, adimittedly the growth environment is one of the most import factors for man’s success, however,how far he can go depends on his efforts in the future.
主题和结尾不一致

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#304
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开题讲人的性格的形成和地域有关,而最后一段讲成长环境对人将来是否成功有影响.风马牛了!

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#305
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On the other hand,the children growing up in the countryside are likely to cultivate the sense of independence,for example,they have to learn how to make both ends? meet due to the financial stain.At the same time, the children from rual areas are relatively simple and naive and easy to obtain the content . However,due to the shortage of being well educated, the rival abilites will be decreased ,therefore it is hard for them to get higher positions offered.
这一段似乎你已段定农村孩子simple and naive 而没讲怎么会simple and naive?后面几句偏题了,讲rival abilites,hard for them to get和CHARACTER形成无关.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#306
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Personal Characteristics

IBT : 2007-04-22#307
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becoming too proud and arrogant to master
是不是说这个词其实是褒义的呢?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-22#308
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开题讲人的性格的形成和地域有关,而最后一段讲成长环境对人将来是否成功有影响.风马牛了!

:wdb4: :wdb4: :wdb4: :wdb4: :wdb5: 谢谢08,偶再认真"研读"一下您的批示:wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb17: :wdb19: ,改后再贴:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-22#309
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Zz ,看到你还是那么一如既往的坚持,心里很感动,这两天我松懈了,都没有写了,很惭愧。督促我哦

angelonduty : 2007-04-22#310
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这是我访问最勤,学得最累,收获最大的帖子.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-22#311
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这是我访问最勤,学得最累,收获最大的帖子.

我也是非常有幸第一次频繁参与置顶的帖子:wdb4: :wdb6:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#312
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becoming too proud and arrogant to master
是不是说这个词其实是褒义的呢?

这里我认为proud and arrogant 重复了,用其中一个单词就行了.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#313
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其实题目是
some people think it is good for children to be brought up in the city than in the countryside.Do you agree or disagree with this opinion

所以你不必上来就限定在how the character is formed?
放开写GOOD or not good就更好写了.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#314
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只是个人意见,你们不要太迷信我,我很多时候也搞不定的!:wdb4:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-22#315
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Zz ,看到你还是那么一如既往的坚持,心里很感动,这两天我松懈了,都没有写了,很惭愧。督促我哦

刚想讲I老师,最近没有奉献新作

一篇"永久性保留支持"的就结束了:wdb6:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#316
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However,due to the shortage of being well educated, the rival abilites will be decreased ,therefore it is hard for them to get higher positions offered.

rival abilites和education没有因果关系.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#317
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At the same time, the children from rual areas are relatively simple and naive (我觉得是贬义的)and easy to obtain the content (不是很明白,什么CONTENT?) .

zznn123456 : 2007-04-22#318
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becoming too proud and arrogant to master


这里我认为proud and arrogant 重复了,用其中一个单词就行了.

其实题目是
some people think it is good for children to be brought up in the city than in the countryside.Do you agree or disagree with this opinion

所以你不必上来就限定在how the character is formed?
放开写GOOD or not good就更好写了.

:wdb11: :wdb6:

只是个人意见,你们不要太迷信我,我很多时候也搞不定的!:wdb4:



:wdb10: 搞不定:wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb6:

与您比偶已经没有能搞定了 :wdb14:

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#319
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On the other hand,the children growing up in the countryside are likely to cultivate thea sense of independence,for example,they have to learn how to make both ends?(这里不明白指什么?) meet due to the financial stainstrain?.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-22#320
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On the other hand,the children growing up in the countryside are likely to cultivate thea sense of independence,for example,they have to learn how to make both ends?(这里不明白指什么?) meet due to the financial stainstrain?.

是想表达,乡村出来的孩子因为财政状况不好,必须学会量入为出"make both ends meet" 是以前学的一固定搭配,就是"收支平衡"的意思,不知道对不对?

financial strain:wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb10:

IBT : 2007-04-22#321
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我说为什么睡不着呢,原来你们都在啊:)

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#322
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是想表达,乡村出来的孩子因为财政状况不好,必须学会量入为出"make both ends meet" 是以前学的一固定搭配,就是"收支平衡"的意思,不知道对不对?

financial strain:wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb10:

学习,可以.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-22#323
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是想表达,乡村出来的孩子因为财政状况不好,必须学会量入为出"make both ends meet" 是以前学的一固定搭配,就是"收支平衡"的意思,不知道对不对?

financial strain:wdb6: :wdb6: :wdb10:

[Q] From Robert Priddy, Norway: “Is the origin of the expression to make ends meet known?”
[A] Not really. It’s old enough that it has centuries ago become an idiom, a turn of phrase that we don’t usually stop to think about at all, though we understand immediately that to make ends meet is to have enough money to live on. The oldest example I can find is from Thomas Fuller’s The History of the Worthies of England of about 1661: “Worldly wealth he cared not for, desiring only to make both ends meet; and as for that little that lapped over he gave it to pious uses”, but the fact that Fuller is making a little joke using it suggests he already knew of it as a set phrase.
Where it comes from is hard to be sure about. It’s often said that it’s from bookkeeping, in which the total at the bottom (“end”) of the column of income must at least match that at the bottom of the expenditure column if one is not to be living beyond one’s income (think of Mr Micawber’s advice to the young David Copperfield). The phrase is also known in the form to make both ends of the year meet, which might strengthen that connection if we think of the usual end-of-year accounting, except that that form isn’t the original one and wasn’t recorded until Tobias Smollett used it in Roderick Random in 1748.
Several subscribers have told me that their understanding of the phrase was that it came from tailoring or dressmaking, in which the amount of cloth available might only just be sufficient to allow the garment to wrap completely around the body and so make the ends meet. Thomas Fuller implies something of the sort in the quotation above. A subscriber whom I know only as Ludwik says there is a similar saying in Polish, zwiazac koniec z koncem (“to tie up one end with the other”); it evokes the image of a belt or similar item that likewise one had to hope would be long enough for its purpose. It suggests the phrase may contain a similar idea to another idiom, to have enough to go round, which comes from the hope that one has enough food for everyone at table. It might be that language writers have taken the associations of the phrase with money too literally in arguing that it’s connected with bookkeeping.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-22#324
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学习,可以.

:wdb1: 08老师别吓我了:wdb13:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-22#325
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[Q] From Robert Priddy, Norway: “Is the origin of the expression to make ends meet known?”
[A] Not really. It’s old enough that it has centuries ago become an idiom, a turn of phrase that we don’t usually stop to think about at all, though we understand immediately that to make ends meet is to have enough money to live on. The oldest example I can find is from Thomas Fuller’s The History of the Worthies of England of about 1661: “Worldly wealth he cared not for, desiring only to make both ends meet; and as for that little that lapped over he gave it to pious uses”, but the fact that Fuller is making a little joke using it suggests he already knew of it as a set phrase.
Where it comes from is hard to be sure about. It’s often said that it’s from bookkeeping, in which the total at the bottom (“end”) of the column of income must at least match that at the bottom of the expenditure column if one is not to be living beyond one’s income (think of Mr Micawber’s advice to the young David Copperfield). The phrase is also known in the form to make both ends of the year meet, which might strengthen that connection if we think of the usual end-of-year accounting, except that that form isn’t the original one and wasn’t recorded until Tobias Smollett used it in Roderick Random in 1748.
Several subscribers have told me that their understanding of the phrase was that it came from tailoring or dressmaking, in which the amount of cloth available might only just be sufficient to allow the garment to wrap completely around the body and so make the ends meet. Thomas Fuller implies something of the sort in the quotation above. A subscriber whom I know only as Ludwik says there is a similar saying in Polish, zwiazac koniec z koncem (“to tie up one end with the other”); it evokes the image of a belt or similar item that likewise one had to hope would be long enough for its purpose. It suggests the phrase may contain a similar idea to another idiom, to have enough to go round, which comes from the hope that one has enough food for everyone at table. It might be that language writers have taken the associations of the phrase with money too literally in arguing that it’s connected with bookkeeping.

TKS

:wdb11: :wdb19: :wdb19: :wdb19:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-23#326
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今天太累了,明天修改后再帖

zznn123456 : 2007-04-24#327
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其实题目

some people think it is good for children to be brought up in the city than in the countryside.Do you agree or disagree with this opinion

所以你不必上来就限定在how the character is formed?
放开写GOOD or not good就更好写了.




采用08老师的建议,直接写

Undoubtedly, compared with those living in rural areas, children growing-up in cities are provided with unparalleled advantages,such as nursing,medical care,being well educated,more job opportunities as well as more explosure to the outside world.


To begin with,helth and education are the most two important factors for children’s upbringing.However, in the countryside,due to the limited supplies, some of them are not able to enjoy the concept of “Education For All” and necessary medical care,especially for those who live in the mountainous areas,for example,if the children are getting ill,they have to go far to the hospital in town and delay the prompt treatment, as a result of leaving regrets for both parnents and children sometimes. Such sorrows also will happen on the children’s education[FONT=宋体],especially for the families with two kids,one girl and one boy, usually the girl quits the study first subject to the poverty.On the contrary,the kids living in urban areas may start to learn various subjects even from kindergartens,most communities have their own clinics and hospitals may be a few minutes walk away.[/FONT]

Also,with the development of industrialization and urbanization,most cities are becoming more like a construction site,professionals and skilled workers are badly needed,young people are easy to find suitable jobs ,even for those from high school.Reversely,farming is the main activity in the contryside,if young people want to engage in other work,they have to leave home and go outside for searching.

Finally, in order to keep pace with the era of knowledge-based economy,teenagers need to be ready to learn the advanced technologies and new trends in different fields.Indeed,the city is a good place to deepen and broaden their knowledge,for example,the public library is easy access to residents and it is possible to consult with the professionals and researchers from universities or institutions if you need help.In addition,with the increasing cultural and business exchanges between countries,the young people are more likely to meet different people from all over the world and access to diverse cultures,which do good for them to beome a global citizen.Unfortunately, it may be difficult for the youth in rural areas to find a reference book of academic courses in school’s library,let alone have chances to contact cross-cultures.

In conclusion,it is safe to say that children living in cities are lucky ones,because they embrace abundant resources for growing up,but how far they can go relys on individual circumstances.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-24#328
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some of them are not able to enjoy (不恰当) benifit fromthe concept (不恰当) the systems of “Education For Allnine-year compulsory education and necessary medical care,especially for those who live in the mountainous areas,for example,if the children are getting ill,they have to go far to the hospital in town and delayget delayed the prompt treatment, as a result of leaving regrets for both parnents and children sometimes.
不一一改了,总的来说结构不错.只是用词要商榷.比如上面这句话.还有举例支持你的论点的话,先要举教育,再举医疗,而不是只举一个.下面这篇文章很有用.

Education

Education has played an important role in China's long and brilliant cultural tradition. Throughout the imperial history (221BC-1911AD), only educated intellectuals could hold positions of social and political leadership. In 2nd BC, the first imperial college was established for educating prospective officials in Confucian teaching and the Chinese classics. In ancient time, few Chinese had been able to take the time to learn the complicated Chinese writing system and its associated literature. According to the government census, as late as 1949 only 20 percent of China's population was literate. By 2001 China's literacy rate had reached 70 percent, although literacy levels between the sexes were different. Literacy in China is defined as the ability to read without difficulty. To the government, this widespread illiteracy is an obstacle in the modernization of the country. Therefore, the government advocates educational development.
In the late 20th century, the first national object of popularizing nine-year compulsory education had been realized, guaranteed by the relevant laws and regulations, such as the Compulsory Education Law of the People's Republic of China, Education Law of the People's Republic of China, and Teachers Law of the People's Republic of China.
In 2000, 85 percent of the school-age population was receiving nine-year compulsory education throughout China; the gross enrolment ratio of junior middle schools was 88.6 percent; and the attendance rate of school-age children in primary schools was 99.1 percent, exceeding the average levels of the developing countries during the same period.
In China, elementary education includes pre-school education, nine-year compulsory education (九年义务教育)of elementary and junior high schools (6-year & 3 year respectively), regular senior high school education (3 year), special education for handicapped children, and elimination of illiteracy. The government has given priority to the development of elementary education, regarding it a key field of development of infrastructure construction and education. Reforms involving the basic issues of elementary education such as increasing government financial input, experimental reform of courses and implementation of a new education appraisal system, are under way in various areas in China.
Higher education has also leaped forward because the government characterizes it by the key-point system. Its subjects and disciplines have gradually become complete, covering various fields such as philosophy, economics, law, education, literature, art, history and science. The degree system has also been established and reinforced. In 1980, the first Academic Degree Regulations of the People's Republic of China was issued. By the end of 2000, there were around 1,000 regular institutions of higher learning, with 5.56 million students. Under the new higher education system, the most promising students are placed in selected key-point schools, which specialize in training an academic elite. University education remains difficult to attain; as many as 2 million students compete each year through entrance examinations for 500,000 university openings. Students finishing senior high school may also attend junior colleges and a variety of technical and vocational schools.
Various reform have been carried out in recent years in the higher education system, which has taken initial shape, such as reform of the college entrance examination and relevant regulations, reform of the higher education system, and reform aimed at promoting quality-oriented education. One of the dramatic changes is charging tuition fees by institutions of higher learning began in 1989. The higher education defined as non-compulsory by the reform, used to be subsidized or exempted by the government, and that was regarded as one of the social welfares of Communism. With implementation of the reform, the teachers' qualification system officially came into effect. According to the system, only those who have legally obtained the qualifications for teaching and have teaching credentials are allowed to work as a teacher.
Certain fields of study have grown in popularity in Chinese higher education. While engineering and science remain very popular, other fields, including medicine, economics, foreign language, and law, have grown rapidly in recent years. Another trend has been the rapid increase in the large number of advanced students studying abroad, mainly in North America, Europe, and Japan. By 1996 more than over 160,000 Chinese students were studying abroad.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-24#329
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However, in the countryside, especially for those who live in the mountainous areas, due to the limited resources, a lot of children are not able to get benifit from the systems of nine-year compulsory education and basic medical care. For example,...education..... Another example of the lack of good medical systems is when the children are getting ill, they have to be sent to the hospitals in the towns far away from their home and consequently they get delayed from the prompt treatment.

beifeng1995 : 2007-04-24#330
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:wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10:

我是不敢在这写了,但是真好看,认真学习

等有时间,给所有这贴子的老师加SW

呵呵呵呵

zznn123456 : 2007-04-24#331
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:wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10:

我是不敢在这写了,但是真好看,认真学习

等有时间,给所有这贴子的老师加SW

呵呵呵呵

为啥不写呢?:wdb2: ,大家相互交流学习:wdb19: :wdb9: :wdb10:

miss : 2007-04-25#332
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刚才才发现这个好帖子,前几天好象偶还在那个TZ的帖子里跟帖建议大家凑在一起写写东西,相互改改呢,今天真是找对地方了:wdb6:
不过偶还在初级阶段,六级过后11年了,所剩的英语内存大概只有2级水平了:wdb5: :wdb4: ,故先拜读学习,择日再贴上拙稿,请前辈们指正。

zznn123456 : 2007-04-25#333
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刚才才发现这个好帖子,前几天好象偶还在那个TZ的帖子里跟帖建议大家凑在一起写写东西,相互改改呢,今天真是找对地方了:wdb6:
不过偶还在初级阶段,六级过后11年了,所剩的英语内存大概只有2级水平了:wdb5: :wdb4: ,故先拜读学习,择日再贴上拙稿,请前辈们指正。


:wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb9: :wdb9: :wdb9:

尽早奉献大作,偶已经没啥好献的了:wdb4:

紫竹林 : 2007-04-25#334
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今天有时间,把作文写了,呵呵
算是对自己有个交待,要不然总是拖拖拉拉的
感觉论据不充分,
好像前后还算一致,反正就是说什么都要在countryside长大:wdb4:

It is no doubt that parents always have the anxiety to create a better living environment for their offspring. However, the agreement, whether living in the city is much more beneficial than in the countryside for children’s growth, has far from been reached. Given the chance to return to the childhood, I would make the choice to be brought up in the countryside rather than in the city.

First of all, living in the countryside gives children more chances to be close to the nature. I believe the nature is the best teacher for a child, and children’s curiosity and desire for knowledge may be arose by catching sight of variety of natural creatures. Seeing the bird flying in the sky, the butterfly standing in a flower, or a daisy swinging in the wind, children may be curious and turn to parents or books to find the answer. The precious first-hand experiences could be gained in the childhood, which are helpful to form their commonsense.

Another reason is that children will have the character of openness and braveness when living in the countryside. The wild field provides a wider playground for children, and they would play games, and do other interesting things. In the playing, children have to learn how to get well along with other partners without the help from the mature. Meanwhile, they will be brave enough to overcome the difficulties, sometimes a river or a hillside. With these features, I think they can do better for the coming problems.

I prefer living in the countryside to enjoy a close to nature life and the time with other children running in the wild. Although someone would list the advantages of living in the city, such as a high-level studying condition and other advanced man-made tools, living in the countryside is more attractive and beneficial for a child. Please give me a chance to enjoy the nature and have a free childhood.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-25#335
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看看老外写了些啥?
In a suburb of a large city.
There's just more to do, and suburbs are generally peaceful.

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I prefer to live in a BIG CITY. Why? To make the money Then go to countryside. Why? To spend the money! Cheers

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the countryside is wonderful, i would live there quite happily with my plot of land, making jam out of homegrown fruit for the local fayres.
but in reality there is more chance and opportunity in the city and its suburbs!
i would prefer a mix of both!! cake and eat it!

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suburd because it is more peaceful and not boring like the country

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I prefer the countryside. I have space to grow my own veggies. No annoying neighbors to contend with. Privacy. Quiet. Peaceful.

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-25#336
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It might be useful to look at two aspects, which may in turn be flip-sides of the same coin: one, why do rural people want to live in the country, and two, why do townies want the countryside as an ‘unspoiled retreat’?

The answer to both questions may be the same. It may be that the problem lies not in the countryside, but in the towns. The answer may be that the towns are unpleasant places to live in, and to spend time in. If towns were vibrant and enjoyable places to live, maybe everyone (rural and urban) would be happy to live in them, and less likely to seek an escape from them. Maybe the problem is urban unpleasantness - traffic, noise, dirt, crowding, violence, impersonality, etc. Maybe if we tackled these, then the pressure on the countryside would ease?

Compare some European countries, where it is distinctly preferable to live in the city than in the rural hinterland - Paris, for instance. People want to live in the city, not in the surrounding suburbs or countryside, because the city has it all. Barcelona is another example, and I’m sure there are dozens of others, both large and small. Unfortunately, for a wide variety of reasons, Ireland’s cities and towns are not particularly nice places. Even without the troubles, Belfast has much wrong with it, in terms of housing, urban design, roads, etc. Dublin is a better city, but is now unaffordable. Smaller towns are too often miserable holes, so it is no wonder that people want to stay in the peace and relative quiet of rural areas and villages, especially since you can drive into the towns easily to avail of the limited delights that they offer.

The answer to bungalow blight might be to examine housing estate blight, and to learn from cities that work, wherever in Europe or the world they might be.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-26#337
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谢谢,08,我也正在修改

Beijing2008 : 2007-04-26#338
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看看老外写了些啥?

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Where would you prefer to live- in the city or in the country and why?
Actualy i would like to live in the country because i grew up there and the pure nature fascinates me
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I prefer the city, although there is more pollution and noise I like it!
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14-04-2007, 1:19 PM Post :350774
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En, it is hard to say. I prefer to live in city, coz it's convenient for shopping and wrking. But, i also like to live in country, coz there is no pollution, air is fresh, and quiet. I wish that i have one own house in city, and one in country. when i get tired of wrking ,i can live in country for a while and get some fresh air.
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14-04-2007, 1:48 PM Post :350785
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I think it depend on where you live. If you live in American or some other high-developed countries, living in the country is a good choise, because although in the country you can also buy enough commodity to maintain your daily life, if you live in the city ,you must tolerate the bad atmosphere and the bad trafic(maybe sometimes). However, living in some under-developed countries, the situation is different. You even don't have enough food to buy, how can you say you like living in the country?


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I agree. It depends. The good thing about the country is that it has no pollution. However, there is not much convenience. Sometimes, there's almost nothing to do. But in the city I have many places to go to, works to do and games to play.


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as i`m living in the countryside where everything is small and everyone knows each other, i`d prefer to live in a big city. but once i`ll be growed up, i think i`ll revert to the country life, because in my opinion it is besser for having a family there. or say a compromise. a small city, a usual suburb, where not everything is so small and you live near a big city. yeah, i think that`s a good agreement. should also be safer there

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To me , i wish to live in a Country because it's nature place, actualy i live in a country but lately it developed and became like a littel city with all changes

Nothing can be more beautyfull than the nature

zznn123456 : 2007-04-26#339
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阿紫,几位老师都不在,咋俩先讨论一下,共同学习,你看行不? :wdb6:

It is no doubt that parents always have the anxiety(a desire?) to create a better living environment for their offspring(children?). However, the agreement, whether living in the city(the 去掉?cities) is much more beneficial than (that of )in the countryside for children’s growth, has far from been reached. Given the(a) chance to return to the childhood, I would make(take) the choice to be brought up in the countryside rather than(that of ) in the city(the去掉?cities)

zznn123456 : 2007-04-26#340
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First of all, living in the countryside gives children more chances to be close to the nature. I believe the nature is the best teacher for (children) a child, and children’s,whose curiosity (curiosities )and desire(s) for knowledge may be arose(arisen) by catching sight of variety of natural creatures. Seeing the bird flying in the sky, the butterfly standing in a flower, or a daisy swinging in the wind, children may be curious and turn to parents or books to find(out) the answer(the secret). The precious first-hand experiences could be gained in the childhood, which are helpful to form (broaden)their commonsense knowledge.

紫竹林 : 2007-04-26#341
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多谢zz的点评,呵呵
匆匆忙忙写的,还没看呢

我的冠词一向用得很混乱,
不过那个里面的the city是和the countryside对应的
than要比较的是相同的成分,不过如果加that of也不太合适吧,我不知道直接使用介词结构的比较是不是可以
其他的我再看看阿
多谢

zznn123456 : 2007-04-26#342
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多谢zz的点评,呵呵
匆匆忙忙写的,还没看呢

我的冠词一向用得很混乱,
不过那个里面的the city是和the countryside对应的
than要比较的是相同的成分,不过如果加that of也不太合适吧,我不知道直接使用介词结构的比较是不是可以
其他的我再看看阿
多谢

1.这个我也有点疑惑:wdb4: ,我知道你是对应的,可是我们一般说在乡村,都是in the countryside,而在城市可以说in cities,in big cities

2.比较的是两种生活方式,后面不能直接是in......,用that 代替的是生活方

zznn123456 : 2007-04-26#343
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今天在guardian上看到中国大学考试是Chinese university entrance examination,偶以前自己造的是 higer education recruitment system:wdb4: :wdb5:,综合各位老师的意见:wdb19: ,重新修改了关于是否提供统一课程的那篇,力争做到简洁明了:wdb6:
请各位老师批评指正:wdb17: :wdb19:


Recently the issue whether to provide identical curriculum for children in different areas of the nation prior to their going to universities and colleges is widely discussed .
Some people hold an opinion that receiving the same academic courses is helpful for students to build up their confidence to compete with peers,but others disagree with it.In my point of view,it is a wise choice for both students and schools to be involved in the same national curriculum.

To begin with,schools always focus on the quality of teaching and learning.However,there is an imbalance of resources and performance among them, how to diminish these differences is a great subject to be faced by school authorities .One of the solutions may be to offer the same national curriculum ,thus teachers from poor areas with the limited teaching resources have access to the latest study materials and reference books as well as to taking part in the same trainning programms with others,which has been proved the effective ways to improve the teaching quality,and schools reputations have been enhanced as a result.

Secondly,current Chinese university entrance examination which is held every summer leads to this demand,the example for this demand is that English language test,one of compulsory testing subjects in the examination,even for the children from mountainouse areas, has to be taken ,however the question is how they can prepare it,if they have not English lessons in schools,so only can the same academic courses arrangement in different areas of the nation meet with this demand.


Finally,providing the same academic courses is beneficial to forster the sense of competition and cooperation among peers .Admittedlly,with the rapid development of economy ,the ability of competitiveness and spirit of team work secure the teenagers to struggle for their bright future.Based on the same teaching materials,the peer pressure is regarded as a positive force which can motivate and challenge the students to do their best,also,with the help of internet, students discuss and debate with their fellows to deal with courses problems in order to reach an agreement in the end,such activities help students to learn how to cooperate with others,which plays an undoubted part throughout life.

Overall,school authorities should take into account this issue carefully and do their best to boost the option of the same national curriculum offered in different parts of the nation,which enables each child to be treated equally.



IBT : 2007-04-26#344
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今天在guardian上看到中国大学考试是Chinese university entrance examination,偶以前自己造的是 higer education recruitment system:wdb4: :wdb5:,综合各位老师的意见:wdb19: ,重新修改了关于是否提供统一课程的那篇,力争做到简洁明了:wdb6:
请各位老师批评指正:wdb17: :wdb19:


Recently the issue whether to provide identical curriculum for children in different areas of the nation prior to their going to universities and colleges is widely discussed .
Some people hold an opinion that receiving the same academic courses is helpful for students to build up their confidence to compete with their? peers,but others disagree with it.In my point of view,it is a wise choice for both students and schools to be involved in the same national curriculum.

To begin with,schools always focus on the quality of teaching and learning.However,there is an imbalance of resources and performance among them, how to diminish these differences is a great subject(主题吗?不知道这个词是不是需要斟酌?) to be faced by school authorities .One of the solutions may be to offer the same national curriculum ,thus teachers from poor areas with the limited teaching resources have access to the latest study materials and reference books as well as to taking part in the same trainning programms with others,which(指programms吧) have been proved the effective ways to improve the teaching quality,and schools' reputations have been(will be ?) enhanced as a result.

Secondly,current Chinese university entrance examination which is held every summer leads to this demand,the example (这两句之间有什么关联词没?)for this demand is that English language test,one of compulsory testing subjects in the examination,even for the children from mountainouse areas, has to be taken ,however the question is how they can prepare it,if they have not English lessons in schools,so only can the same academic courses arrangement in different areas of the nation meets with this demand.


Finally,providing the same academic courses is beneficial to forster( foster?)the sense of competition and cooperation among peers .Admittedlly,with the rapid development of economy ,the ability of competitiveness(competition?) and spirit of team work secure the teenagers to struggle for their bright future.Based on the same teaching materials,the peer pressure is regarded as a positive force which can motivate and challenge the students to do their best,also,with the help of internet, students discuss and debate with their fellows to deal with courses problems in order to reach an agreement in the end,such activities help students to learn how to cooperate with others,which plays an undoubted part throughout life.(throughout their lives?不知道需不需要)


Overall,school authorities should take into account this issue carefully and do their best to boost the option (?)of the same national curriculum offered in different parts of the nation,which enables each child to be treated equally.


总觉得插入成分有点多,有时不容易分出是谁的,不过有可能是因为我看英文的能力,谅。

zznn123456 : 2007-04-27#345
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Recently the issue whether to provide identical curriculum for children in different areas of the nation prior to their going to universities and colleges is widely discussed .
Some people hold an opinion that receiving the same academic courses is helpful for students to build up their confidence to compete with their? peers,but others disagree with it.In my point of view,it is a wise choice for both students and schools to be involved in the same national curriculum.

有才老师,来晚了,谅!,你的小眼睛真好用


08以前的批示里有个example

Teenagers are subject to peer pressure

我想这里可以不用their,peer 就是指他们同辈人,你说泥?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-27#346
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To begin with,schools always focus on the quality of teaching and learning.However,there is an imbalance of resources and performance among them, how to diminish these differences is a great subject(主题吗?不知道这个词是不是需要斟酌?) to be faced by school authorities .One of the solutions may be to offer the same national curriculum ,thus teachers from poor areas with the limited teaching resources have access to the latest study materials and reference books as well as to taking part in the same trainning programms with others,which(指programms吧) have been proved the effective ways to improve the teaching quality,and schools' reputations have been(will be ?) enhanced as a result.

1.指课题,可能用challenge 更好?
2.最后一句是应该用将来时:wdb17: :wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-27#347
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Secondly,current Chinese university entrance examination which is held every summer leads to this demand,the example (这两句之间有什么关联词没?)for this demand is that English language test,one of compulsory testing subjects in the examination,even for the children from mountainouse areas, has to be taken ,however the question is how they can prepare it,if they have not English lessons in schools,so only can the same academic courses arrangement in different areas of the nation meets with this demand.

1.....this demand.For example,English language test is one of compulsory testing subjects for students including the children from mountainouse areas. rignt?

2.meet with 不是固定搭配满足的意思吗?

zznn123456 : 2007-04-27#348
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Finally,providing the same academic courses is beneficial to forster( foster?)the sense of competition and cooperation among peers .Admittedlly,with the rapid development of economy ,the ability of competitiveness(competition?) and spirit of team work secure the teenagers to struggle for their bright future.Based on the same teaching materials,the peer pressure is regarded as a positive force which can motivate and challenge the students to do their best,also,with the help of internet, students discuss and debate with their fellows to deal with courses problems in order to reach an agreement in the end,such activities help students to learn how to cooperate with others,which plays an undoubted part throughout life.(throughout their lives?不知道需不需要)

1.foster 也是培养的意思同cultivate

2.同意去掉:wdb17:

JACKSON ZHANG : 2007-04-27#349
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总觉得插入成分有点多,有时不容易分出是谁的

:wdb11: :wdb10::wdb17:

不想用太多定语从句,就用插入语:wdb4: ,下次注意:wdb6:



刚才我的电脑上不来,以为有问题,就用劳工的,见谅! 在偶的强烈要求下,他又重新注册自己的ID了,因为那么多SW偶舍不得给他

Mademoiselle : 2007-04-27#350
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大家都好能写哦:wdb17:

IBT : 2007-04-27#351
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楼上的,你也写写吧:)

IBT : 2007-04-27#352
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Secondly,current Chinese university entrance examination which is held every summer leads to this demand,the example (这两句之间有什么关联词没?)for this demand is that English language test,one of compulsory testing subjects in the examination,even for the children from mountainouse areas, has to be taken ,however the question is how they can prepare it,if they have not English lessons in schools,so only can the same academic courses arrangement in different areas of the nation meets with this demand.

1.....this demand.For example,English language test is one of compulsory testing subjects for students including the children from mountainouse areas. rignt?

2.meet with 不是固定搭配满足的意思吗?
满足需求,直接就可以说meet this demand吧

IBT : 2007-04-27#353
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Zz我觉得你写的已经很好乐,起码在我的水平,语法上已经挑不出什么错了,但我觉得句子,表述可以再斟酌,modify
这也是我们没有北美生活学习工作的人所欠缺的
所以还要大量阅读才行,看看别人都用什么词

zznn123456 : 2007-04-27#354
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Zz我觉得你写的已经很好乐,起码在我的水平,语法上已经挑不出什么错了,但我觉得句子,表述可以再斟酌,modify
这也是我们没有北美生活学习工作的人所欠缺的
所以还要大量阅读才行,看看别人都用什么词

:wdb11: :wdb19: :wdb10: 我哪敢和你比呀,有才老师:wdb13: ,我也认为大量阅读是必要的,读多了就感觉以前用的词非常不准确:wdb4:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-27#355
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满足需求,直接就可以说meet this demand吧
:wdb22: :wdb19:

IBT : 2007-04-27#356
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:wdb4: :wdb6:

你看看有那么多人英语那么好都是练出来得,所以只要坚持,谁都可以做到:wdb9:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-27#357
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:wdb4: :wdb6:

你看看有那么多人英语那么好都是练出来得,所以只要坚持,谁都可以做到:wdb9:

:wdb11: :wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#358
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I有才老师,你会法语吗?

紫竹林 : 2007-04-28#359
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zz的点评很详细阿,多谢了
就要五一放假了,大家继续劳动吧
这几天忙着准备放假呢,呵呵
祝大家劳动节快乐

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#360
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zz的点评很详细阿,多谢了
就要五一放假了,大家继续劳动吧
这几天忙着准备放假呢,呵呵
祝大家劳动节快乐

谢谢,还有两段没看呢:wdb4:

angelonduty : 2007-04-28#361
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:wdb4: :wdb6:

你看看有那么多人英语那么好都是练出来得,所以只要坚持,谁都可以做到:wdb9:
这样说俺就有信心了,俺再加把劲!

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#362
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为了让08回来和各位老师不失望,在原来作业的基础上偶又"炮制"了两篇
:wdb4: ,有才老师快来:wdb19:

题目:
People in the modern world are enjoying greater wealth but they are not as fit and active as they were in the past.

What are the reasons? Suggest some measures to solve this problem


It is safe to say that people are becoming less fit and active at moment, which is to do with changes in the way we live our lives,now I woud like to describe some factores related to this inactivity and measures which would reverse this imbalance.The soar of private cars contributes to reducing uses of public transportation because you can drive a car between office and home rather than walk to the bus station to take a bus.Meanwhile you are used to drive a car to the supermarket,just a few minutes walk away from home. In addition, jobs have become more sedentary,telephone,fax machine could be set nearby with the touch(one arm ?) distance if you like,let along the computer which always clings to you all the time.Also, there is more entertainment that is basically sitting inside,for example,downloading the latest films and favorite music in Internet is becoming a popular pastime not noly among teengers but also among adults at expenses of outdoor activities. However,the potato coach tendency will result in the rising obesity, diabetes and heart diseases,the cost for treatment of these disease will goes up as a result for individuals.

Changes to the environment need to be tackled, such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities held by communities ,especailly family events are welcome,which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offer both an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.

In conclusion, some people would like to find a excuse for inactivity,but if they can devote more time to sport than to computer games or other Internet entertainment,they will be becoming more healthy and happy.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#363
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这样说俺就有信心了,俺再加把劲!

BZ你歇歇吧:wdb10: ,俺都追不上了:wdb14: :wdb7:

IBT : 2007-04-28#364
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你们都够能写的啊
俺现在是闭关休息,呵呵,来继续挑错:wdb5: :wdb6: :wdb8:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#365
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你们都够能写的啊
俺现在是闭关休息,呵呵,来继续挑错:wdb5: :wdb6: :wdb8:

老师好,你来了:wdb19: ,偶每天都有感觉在想你:wdb6:

趁老师在,赶快把另一篇再贴上

偶是把以前的作业翻出来再修改的

IBT : 2007-04-28#366
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呵呵,小Zz,呗儿一个先
俺正看呢
反正不管三七二十一,我就挑啦
又不是第一次,ho ho

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#367
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呵呵,小Zz,呗儿一个先
俺正看呢
反正不管三七二十一,我就挑啦
又不是第一次,ho ho

:wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb10: :wdb9:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#368
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

有才老师,下面还有一篇:wdb6:

题目
Chosing Career depending on interest or professions.
Describe the reason
?

Generally people are always wondering to choose careers based on majors or interests outside of the fields of their studies ,the fact is that only a few lucky ones have combined their interestes with work and most of them have to accept unwanted jobs related to their professions which probably parents wanted rather than their initial motivations.In my opinion, finding a job based on one’s interest is a good choice about a career.

First and foremost,interest is an motivator and a eager desire to learn. When you link these two things together, you may have more chances to achieve a success,apparently,many typical cases of science development are under such circumstances,such as gravity rules founded by Newton with the curiosity of a falling apple, the discovery of Uranus by a self-taught astronomer with crazy passions about space.In addition,these successes often lead to more interests and a greater desire to learn, creating an upward spiral of motivation toward a goal you have set up.

At the same time interest makes you concentrate yourself on one thing without letting your thoughts scattered. Undoubtedly concentration is of great importance to accomplish a success.For instance,Bill Gates will use 2 or 3 weeks every year to isolate himself from the ouside without phones,work and business to study and work over the new trend and technoloies of his beloved IT realm ,why does he do so? admittedly it does be the interest which arrests him thoroughly.Due to such tempts and attractions,you will be obsessed with the work or study you like till fulfiling the goal you crave for.

Finally,interst may be the best medication for failure.Each of us understands the vivid saying“unless you have failed you will never succeed”,but how many of us can confront faliures with at a peace state? Who can give us encouragement? It is only interest that can console and calm you and evoke your challenging spirit for going furhter.

However parents have spent a lot of money on children's studies at university, especially for some costly majors,such as Law and Medicine,as a return,it is better for you to pursue a career based on your interest without losing profession totally.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#369
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以前老师作业要求写250字,偶就偷懒,基本上都在250-280之间,现在看来,这么短根本说不清楚论点

IBT : 2007-04-28#370
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

为了让08回来和各位老师不失望,在原来作业的基础上偶又"炮制"了两篇
:wdb4: ,有才老师快来:wdb19:

题目:
People in the modern world are enjoying greater wealth but they are not as fit and active as they were in the past.

What are the reasons? Suggest some measures to solve this problem


It is safe to say that people are becoming less fit and active at moment, which is to do with changes in the way we live our lives,now I woud like to describe some factores related to this inactivity and measures which would reverse this imbalance.The soar of private cars contributes to reducing uses of public transportation because you can drive a car between office and home rather than walk to the bus station to take a bus.Meanwhile you are used to drive a car to the supermarket,just a few minutes walk away from home. In addition, jobs have become more sedentary,telephone,fax machine could be set nearby with the touch(one arm ?) distance if you like,let along the computer which always clings to you all the time.Also, there is more entertainment that is basically sitting inside,for example,downloading the latest films and favorite music in Internet is becoming a popular pastime not noly among teengers but also among adults at expenses of outdoor activities. However,the potato coach tendency will result in the rising obesity, diabetes and heart diseases,the cost for treatment of these disease will goes up as a result for individuals.

Changes to the environment need to be tackled, such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities held by communities ,especailly family events are welcome,which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offer both an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.

In conclusion, some people would like to find an excuse for inactivity,but if they can devote more time to(这个好) sport than to computer games or other Internet entertainment,they will be becoming more healthy and happy.
我觉得写得非常好啊

zznn123456 : 2007-04-28#371
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我觉得写得非常好啊

不行,批改,不认真:wdb7: :wdb7: :wdb7:, 有才老师辛苦了,我给你准备夜宵行不行,想吃啥?:wdb6:

IBT : 2007-04-28#372
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

真的,我真跳不出啊,再挑就是鸡蛋里的骨头了,难啊
要不夜宵就来点这个,呵呵


对了,想起来啦,俺不会说法语,一丁点也不会,呵呵
都说法语是最美丽的语言,可俺听着,恩,怪难听的
hoho
这就是阳春白雪和下里巴人吧

zznn123456 : 2007-04-29#373
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

真的,我真跳不出啊,再挑就是鸡蛋里的骨头了,难啊
要不夜宵就来点这个,呵呵


对了,想起来啦,俺不会说法语,一丁点也不会,呵呵
都说法语是最美丽的语言,可俺听着,恩,怪难听的
hoho
这就是阳春白雪和下里巴人吧

有才老师,咋能这样说泥:wdb14: :wdb5: ,我自己是谁偶还不知道吗?

用词不准确,连贯性差,前后不一致:wdb13: 用功比不上YY:wdb17: ,
native English比不上angel:wdb19: 但俺幸运是遇到了08,你还有各位老师,特别要感谢您,不是你提议写ISSUE,偶是不会主动写的,以前写都是为了应付考试,规定250个字,我就严格控制在250-270之间,决不多写:wdb4: ,有时心急,咋还不到250泥:wdb4: ,就随便写一句凑数,last but not least就是偶的:wdb19: ,因为字多,老师一讲超过300字的范文,偶就带头反对,:wdb1: 考试不要求,为啥学那么长的 ,结果老师不得不换短的:wdb4: ,来到这里看到您写的knowledge那篇:wdb17: 非常"震撼",才知道什么是essay,才让偶calm下来,回头看看自己走的路,把以前写的翻出来真是不好意思再看第二遍:wdb5: ,幸运地遇到了你和08这么好的老师,所以我决心一定好好努力,不和别人比,和自己比就好了,明天比今天进步就是偶的目标:wdb23:

IBT : 2007-04-29#374
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亲爱的Zz , 我现在才看到你刚刚给我写的话,刚刚都一直沉浸在歌里了,嗬嗬,好久没这样听歌了
看了你写的话,我也很感慨
是啊
我们大家一起努力,这个帖子竟然这么多页了
尤其到后来尽是你在坚持,真的想想这些心里都很感动
英语版的每个人,或许还有很多来看过但没有留下痕迹得大家
希望每个人都在贴子里找到了自己想要的
或者在我们不断的改改写写中,多多少少有些许收获吧
但是现在08走了,不知道什么时候还会再来
尽管告诉自己还要写但却觉得很难
其实仔细想想支撑这个贴子的应该是这位难得的老师吧

zznn123456 : 2007-04-29#375
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

亲爱的Zz , 我现在才看到你刚刚给我写的话,刚刚都一直沉浸在歌里了,嗬嗬,好久没这样听歌了
看了你写的话,我也很感慨
是啊
我们大家一起努力,这个帖子竟然这么多页了
尤其到后来尽是你在坚持,真的想想这些心里都很感动
英语版的每个人,或许还有很多来看过但没有留下痕迹得大家
希望每个人都在贴子里找到了自己想要的
或者在我们不断的改改写写中,多多少少有些许收获吧
但是现在08走了,不知道什么时候还会再来
尽管告诉自己还要写但却觉得很难
其实仔细想想支撑这个贴子的应该是这位难得的老师吧

老师别谦虚,你不用写了,只给我们批改,出题目就可以了:wdb6: ,我一定坚持下去:wdb9:

借个马甲 : 2007-04-30#376
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真心敬佩勤奋的NN. 呵呵,俺又来捣乱啦----来掐一把!


题目:
People in the modern world are enjoying greater wealth but they are not as fit and active as they were in the past.

What are the reasons? Suggest some measures to solve this problem


It is safe to say that people are becoming less fit and active at moment(词组使用错误), which( 肯定代替的不是前面moment 这个词,但是如果代前面一句话的话,就逻辑混乱了,究竟代的是主句还是从句呢,晕哦) is to do with changes in the way we live our lives,now I woud like to describe some factores related to this inactivity and some measures which would reverse this imbalance.The soar of private cars contributes to reducing uses of public transportation because you can drive a car between office and home rather than walk to the bus station to take a bus.Meanwhile you are used to drive a car to the supermarket,just a few minutes walk away from home. In addition, jobs have become more sedentary, (逗号连句子,NN这个问题你要多多注意哦,不是一次了哦)telephone,fax machine could be set nearby with the touch(one arm ?) distance if you like,let along the computer which always clings to you all the time.Also, there is more entertainment that is basically sitting inside,for example,(前后两句话分别都有谓语,不能这么点标点的哦)downloading the latest films and favorite music in Internet is becoming a popular pastime not noly among teengers but also among adults at expenses of outdoor activities. However,the potato coach tendency will result in the rising obesity, diabetes and heart diseases , () the cost for treatment of these disease will goes up as a result for individuals.

Changes to the environment need to be tackled,(词不达意哦,建议考虑一下重写) such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities held by communities ,especailly family events are welcome,(和前面的几个名词性成分不并列,和前面的那个完整的句子逻辑混乱,又接个定语从句,乱)which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offer both an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.

In conclusion, some people would like to find a excuse for inactivity,but if they can devote more time to sport than to computer games or other Internet entertainment,they will be becoming more healthy and happy.[/quote]

借个马甲 : 2007-04-30#377
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

一篇好的文章,往往至少要在以下几个方面出色: 1.content. 2.organization. 3.diction. 4.sentence structures and varieties.

NN的这篇文章,尤其要注意的是句子的结构. 长句驾御得不好,就不如短句了. 再从全文的结构来看,大体的框架是没有问题的. 就像要求的那样,写现象、原因和解决方法就好了. 但是千万注意不要手懒, 该分段的时候要分段,不要把前两部分写在一起.感觉很混乱. 坏了全文的结构.

再看内容,原因分析的部分.大体是写了私家车增加、工作方式的改变、电脑的使用和室内娱乐几点. 这几个原因写得彼此之间杂糅和交叉比较严重(尤其是2. 3. 4) .在内容上, 一点连着另一点,仿佛是在写一个例子又仿佛是写了几个例子. 建议再想想别的原因,或者重新写写这几个原因.一方面清晰,一方面也增加你文章的说服力.

再看最后一段. 明明前面写了好多的原因,结果在这里却只提了电脑\因特网这一个原因.这使得你的最后一段和全文失去了呼应. 必须要改.

说这么多NN的文章的问题,其实NN的文章是写得很不错的,优点很多! 夸她的话俺就先不写了吧? 俺总觉得夸自己的朋友是很肉麻的事情.

借个马甲 : 2007-04-30#378
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今天有时间,把作文写了,呵呵
算是对自己有个交待,要不然总是拖拖拉拉的
感觉论据不充分,
好像前后还算一致,反正就是说什么都要在countryside长大:wdb4:

It is no doubt that parents always have the anxiety to create a better living environment for their offspring. However, the agreement, whether living in the city is much more beneficial than in the countryside for children’s growth, has far from been reached. Given the chance to return to the childhood, I would make the choice to be brought up in the countryside rather than in the city.

First of all, living in the countryside gives children more chances to be close to the nature. I believe the nature is the best teacher for a child, and children’s curiosity and desire for knowledge may be arose by catching sight of the variety of natural creatures. Seeing the bird flying in the sky, the butterfly standing in a flower, or a daisy swinging in the wind, children may be curious and turn to parents or books to find the answer(to what??). The precious first-hand experiences could be gained in the childhood, which are helpful to form their commonsense.

Another reason is that children will have the character of openness and braveness when living in the countryside. The wild field provides a wider playground for children, and they would play games, and do other interesting things. In the playing, children have to learn how to get well along with other partners without the help from the mature. Meanwhile, they will be brave enough to overcome the difficulties, sometimes a river or a hillside. With these features, I think they can do better for the coming problems.

I prefer living in the countryside to enjoy a close to nature life and the time with other children running in the wild. Although someone would list the advantages of living in the city, such as a high-level studying condition and other advanced man-made tools, living in the countryside is more attractive and beneficial for a child(绝对化). Please give me a chance to enjoy the nature and have a free childhood.(这文章又不是写给上帝他老人家的,呵呵,结尾再换个写法是不是更好?)

因为急着要出门,抱歉只大略读了一下竹林的这篇文章,标记了几个地方.没时间给出修改建议.竹林也自己再想想看,我会再来读这文章的.希望到时候我们交流一下下.

zznn123456 : 2007-04-30#379
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一篇好的文章,往往至少要在以下几个方面出色: 1.content. 2.organization. 3.diction. 4.sentence structures and varieties.

NN的这篇文章,尤其要注意的是句子的结构. 长句驾御得不好,就不如短句了. 再从全文的结构来看,大体的框架是没有问题的. 就像要求的那样,写现象、原因和解决方法就好了. 但是千万注意不要手懒, 该分段的时候要分段,不要把前两部分写在一起.感觉很混乱. 坏了全文的结构.

再看内容,原因分析的部分.大体是写了私家车增加、工作方式的改变、电脑的使用和室内娱乐几点. 这几个原因写得彼此之间杂糅和交叉比较严重(尤其是2. 3. 4) .在内容上, 一点连着另一点,仿佛是在写一个例子又仿佛是写了几个例子. 建议再想想别的原因,或者重新写写这几个原因.一方面清晰,一方面也增加你文章的说服力.

再看最后一段. 明明前面写了好多的原因,结果在这里却只提了电脑\因特网这一个原因.这使得你的最后一段和全文失去了呼应. 必须要改.

说这么多NN的文章的问题,其实NN的文章是写得很不错的,优点很多! 夸她的话俺就先不写了吧? 俺总觉得夸自己的朋友是很肉麻的事情.


马甲,非常感谢:wdb17: :wdb19: ,提到的问题都是我把握不好的:wdb14: ,
我会认真拜读你的批示,认真修改,也非常感谢你把偶当朋友,俺也一直把你当好朋友的:wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-30#380
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马甲,我作业改好了,可是我在WORD里用的颜色,刚才COPY过来颜色都没了,咋回事:wdb7:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-30#381
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

It is safe to say that people are becoming less fit and active at moment(词组使用错误), which( 肯定代替的不是前面moment 这个词,但是如果代前面一句话的话,就逻辑混乱了,究竟代的是主句还是从句呢,晕哦) is to do with changes in the way we live our lives,now I woud like to describe some factores related to this inactivity and some measures which would reverse this imbalance.

Nowadays people are becoming less fit and active,which is to do with changes of our lifestyles.The followings I would like to discuss some reasons linked to physical inactivity rise and measures that would reverse this imbalance.

The soar of private cars contributes to reducing uses of public transportation because you can drive a car between office and home rather than walk to the bus station to take a bus.Meanwhile you are used to drive(driving) a car to the supermarket,just a few minutes walk away from home.

In addition, jobs have become more sedentary,(.) (逗号连句子,NN这个问题你要多多注意哦,不是一次了哦)(T)telephone,fax machine could be set nearby with the touch(one arm ?) distance if you like,let along the computer which always clings to you all the time(you are sitting in front of to deal with daily work all the time).Also, there is(?) more entertainment that is basically sitting inside,(.)(F)for example,(前后两句话分别都有谓语,不能这么点标点的哦)downloading the latest films and favorite music in Internet is(are )becoming a(前面用are 这里就不能用a 了?去掉?) popular pastime not noly (only)among teengers but also among adults at expenses of outdoor activities.

Obviously,the potato coach (decline of activity)tendency will result in the rising (of)obesity, diabetes and heart diseases ,(.) ()(T) the cost for
treatment of these diseases will goes up(will be increased) as a result for individuals.


Changes to the environment need to be tackled,(词不达意哦,建议考虑一下重写) Wherease these above mentioned diseases could have been avoided if people enjoyed a more active lifestyle.The government and local community should make this a much higher profile issue,such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities,especially family events held by communities ,especailly family events are welcome,(和前面的几个名词性成分不并列,和前面的那个完整的句子逻辑混乱,又接个定语从句,乱)which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offer(offers)both an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.

In conclusion, some people would like to find a excuse for inactivity,but if they can devote more time to sport than to computer games or other Internet entertainment,they will be becoming more healthy and happy.[/quote]

zznn123456 : 2007-04-30#382
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

气晕了,我试一下以为可以,还是不行

zznn123456 : 2007-04-30#383
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

咳,在你原来的帖子上改吧

zznn123456 : 2007-04-30#384
回复: 大家来写ISSUE吧(目录在一层)

真心敬佩勤奋的NN. 呵呵,俺又来捣乱啦----来掐一把!


题目:
People in the modern world are enjoying greater wealth but they are not as fit and active as they were in the past.

What are the reasons? Suggest some measures to solve this problem


It is safe to say that people are becoming less fit and active at moment(词组使用错误), which( 肯定代替的不是前面moment 这个词,但是如果代前面一句话的话,就逻辑混乱了,究竟代的是主句还是从句呢,晕哦) is to do with changes in the way we live our lives,now I woud like to describe some factores related to this inactivity and some measures which would reverse this imbalance.

Nowadays people are becoming less fit and active,which is to do with changes of our lifestyles.The followings I would like to discuss some reasons linked to physical inactivity rise and measures that would reverse this imbalance.
(第一段改动很大)



The soar of private cars contributes to reducing uses of public transportation because you can drive a car between office and home rather than walk to the bus station to take a bus.Meanwhile you are used to drive a car to the supermarket,just a few minutes walk away from home.


The soar of private cars contributes to reducing uses of public transportation because you can drive a car between office and home rather than walk to the bus station to take a bus.Meanwhile you are used to drive(driving) a car to the supermarket,just a few minutes walk away from home.


In addition, jobs have become more sedentary, (逗号连句子,NN这个问题你要多多注意哦,不是一次了哦)telephone,fax machine could be set nearby with the touch(one arm ?) distance if you like,let along the computer which always clings to you all the time.Also, there is more entertainment that is basically sitting inside,for example,(前后两句话分别都有谓语,不能这么点标点的哦)downloading the latest films and favorite music in Internet is becoming a popular pastime not noly among teengers but also among adults at expenses of outdoor activities.


In addition, jobs have become more sedentary,(.) ([FONT=宋体]逗号连句子[/FONT],NN[FONT=宋体]这个问题你要多多注意哦[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]不是一次了哦[/FONT])(T)telephone,fax machine could be set nearby with the touch(one arm ?) distance if you like,let along the computer which always clings to you all the time(you are sitting in front of to deal with daily work all the time).Also, there is(?) more entertainment that is basically sitting inside,(.)(F)for example,([FONT=宋体]前后两句话分别都有谓语[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]不能这么点标点的哦[/FONT])downloading the latest films and favorite music in Internet is(are )becoming a([FONT=宋体]前面用[/FONT]are [FONT=宋体]这里就不能用[/FONT]a [FONT=宋体]了?去掉?[/FONT]) popular pastime not noly (only)among teengers but also among adults at expenses of outdoor activities.


is 为啥不行?


However,the potato coach tendency will result in the rising obesity, diabetes and heart diseases , () the cost for treatment of these disease will goes up as a result for individuals.



Obviously,the potato coach (decline of activity)tendency will result in the rising (of)obesity, diabetes and heart diseases ,(.) ()(T) the cost for
treatment of these diseases will goes up(will be increased) as a result for individuals.


Changes to the environment need to be tackled,(词不达意哦,建议考虑一下重写) such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities held by communities ,especailly family events are welcome,(和前面的几个名词性成分不并列,和前面的那个完整的句子逻辑混乱,又接个定语从句,乱)which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offerboth an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.



Changes to the environment need to be tackled,([FONT=宋体]词不达意哦[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]建议考虑一下重写[/FONT]) Wherease these above mentioned diseases could have been avoided if people enjoyed a more active lifestyle.The government and local community should make this a much higher profile issue[FONT=宋体],[/FONT]such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities,especially family events held by communities ,especailly family events are welcome,([FONT=宋体]和前面的几个名词性成分不并列[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]和前面的那个完整的句子逻辑混乱[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]又接个定语从句[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]乱[/FONT])which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offer(offers)both an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.


In conclusion, some people would like to find a excuse for inactivity,but if they can devote more time to sport than to computer games or other Internet entertainment,they will be becoming more healthy and happy.
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马甲,你看有点改进没?

1.同意你的分段说,我也看着也挺乱的
2.给偶讲讲逗号的用法,真不会用呀:wdb4:

zznn123456 : 2007-04-30#385
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为啥分段贴在你后面就能保留原来的颜色泥:wdb16: ,看来以后都要FOLLOW YOU 乐:wdb6:

zznn123456 : 2007-05-06#386
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各位老师,请检查俺的最新作业:wdb6:

题目:Some people think fashion is good but others not.
Do you agree or disagree this opinion?(以前老师留的作业没写过,第一次写:wdb4: )

Everyone wants to gain attention from others and fashion enables to feed it. What a role does fashion serve as in our life ?People’s views greatly differ.

Undeniably,fashion can lift your spirits and cheer you up by means of their incomparable merits.For one thing,wearing a suit of name brand can build up your confidence,which are conducive to confront and negotiate with your customers in a good manner in order to struggle for the best terms and conditions.For another,fashion is self-expression,which can interpret your age and occupation.For example, if you are dressed in jeans and a t-shirt, you often have to chase after a saleswoman in order to make a purchase. If, on the other hand, you are dressed in heels, a pretty skirt, you often can't help shopping quietly with various offers for help.

However,fashion may trigger some problems if not properly used.Firstly,some people pursue fashion excessively,especially some young girls, crazily seeking the perfect shape of models contributes to eating disorders,putting their health under threat[FONT=宋体],[/FONT]even worse some dieters are threatened to death and become fashion victims at last.Secondly,it is no doubt that fashing is armed with both money and engergy.In recent years the prevalence of extravagance is rising increasingly among the youth who are moving their concentration from work and study to stylish matters,leading to running out of money and bad performance on career and academic study.

In sum,everyone doesn’t want to be regarded as an old-fashioned person,but take care not to follow a fashion blindly and create your own style just by cutting your old jeans and you may find out how fantastic things you can make.







zznn123456 : 2007-05-06#387
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又贴一遍,还是很小,就这样吧,------大汗

Beijing2008 : 2007-05-06#388
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时装和名牌不是一回事,我觉得FASHION主要是和传统比.

Beijing2008 : 2007-05-06#389
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From: Indiana German Heritage Society Newsletter, Fall 1996, Vol. 12, Issue 4


NATIVE DRESS, FASHION OR COSTUME?
When volunteering to work at a German-American event or an International fair, you may be told to "come in costume." Meant is usually the stereotypical Bavarian Dirndl for the gals and white shirt and Lederhosen for the guys. Dirndl dress and Lederhosen are folk-style clothes and as such are costumes; they are city folks' image of simple country life. It's something one puts on to be, for a little while, something one is not. Much to the amusement of visitors from German- speaking areas, our outfits vaguely resemble "Tracht" worn in the Alpine regions of Bavaria and Austria. Together with Oktoberfests, Germanfests, Strassenfests and wives/war brides, they were brought over by the GIs, stationed in Southern Germany. About the many and rich variations of earlier garment brought from other German-speaking regions little is known today.
A "Tracht" is a traditional garment typical of a certain area. The word "Tracht" is related to the verb "tragen," "to wear." Before the leveling effect of urbanization, native dress was always bound to a given place, a specific social unit, and a local culture. This explains the great regional diversity. In his article "About Dialects and High German" (Spring 1996, Vol. 12, Issue 2) Eberhard Reichmann showed vastly different dialect and cultural areas from which German-speaking people came and still come. Each region not only has its own dialect, it also has its own set of customs and traditions, including dress.

Since Northwest Germany provided a large number of German immigrants to Indiana, their language, foods, dances and dress were brought here by these early settlers. Amish and Mennonite dress, still worn in Indiana to this day, reflect clothing styles of the Alsatian-Southwest German- Swiss areas, at the time of these groups' emigration. The Harmonist style of clothing, depicted in prints or paintings, resembles the style of a region east of the Black Forest.

As with the Amish, dressing in traditional garb is an outward expression of belonging to a specific group or place called "Heimat." It can be the place where one lives or was born; it can be a place which, for one reason or other, one had to leave or chose to leave. Such dress requires a commitment to a value system shared by a specific community and conformity to that system. More than any other, this is the reason, why folk-style clothing is a fashion or a costume and not a native dress.

The late Günter Moltmann showed that adaptation was necessary for immigrants as far as the physical layout of real estate was concerned; they had to adhere to the grid patterns of the American land acts of 1785 and 1796. They would adapt to the lay of the land, to the climate, and the resources available. But they would not give up their customary ways. "Most people migrating from one country to another do not shake off their old clothes in a hurry and put on new ones suited to their future environment--at least not immediately upon arrival... Along with the things necessary for their physical existence, the immigrants' baggage includes their cultural heritage, their mother tongue, their ways of life, their personal concepts, their value systems and preconceived plans for the future, their hopes and expectations." (Moltmann, p. xviii).

Until the 16th century, farmers and people of the lower classes usually wore gray or brown-colored garments. Wearing blue was allowed only on Sundays and holidays. Since the 16th century, traditional country dress began to develop as part of a system of order. Every trade had its distinctive work clothes and Sunday dress. Dresses, trousers, shirts, vests, and head pieces, worn for work differed from those worn for festive occasions and they differed from region to region. The Black Forest "Bollenhut," a black hat with red "Bollen," (balls) differed from the bonnet worn by the women in Münsterland. It was called "a cap," and differing styles were worn for work, on Sundays, holidays, and special occasions. Beside two everyday bonnets, there were mourning bonnets, worn by widows, and the most beautiful piece--the gold bonnet for the wedding and festive occasions.

"Tracht" is sewn and fitted by specialized tailors or seamstresses for the wearer. Folk-style clothes, on the other hand, are produced by the ready-to-wear fashion industry or made at home. Native dress uses only natural materials: wool, linen, silk, silver, mother-of-pearl, etc. Dirndl dresses use synthetic and plastic products. Native dress features handwork: embroidery, lace and hand woven materials. Dirndl dresses use machine embroidery and laces. Native dress distinguishes between work, visiting and festival dress; it indicates the marital status and the role of the wearer at a given function, and the family or clan the wearer belongs to. Dirndl dresses make no such distinction. Native dress uses ornamental trim very carefully, concentrating instead, on quality of workmanship. Dirndl dresses use showy ornamentation in profusion with quality of workmanship a secondary concern.

Native dress is always the same length; the hems of dirndl dresses go up and down with the current fashion. Native dress plays down the female torso; dirndl dresses deliberately accentuate the upper body. Native dress is generally limited in design to the traditional form for a given region; dirndl dress designs are limited only by the designer's taste and imagination. And, finally, dirndl fashions are proliferated by the ready-to-wear industry, while the authenticity of native dress has to be protected and nurtured in order to survive.

Like other clothing, "Tracht" was undergoing changes over the centuries and still does today, however at a much slower pace than regular fashion. The heyday of traditional dress was around the beginning of the 19th century. By the middle of the 19th century--the industrial revolution had created the garment industry--typical national/native dress had begun to disappear in many places. Instead peddlers hawked cheap, factory-made fabrics, which may not have looked as great, but were inexpensive.

Fashion influences altered the typical characteristics of native dress until they disappeared altogether. This was a gradual development, in some places and regions happening faster than in others. Where tradition remained important, especially in parts of Bavaria and Austria, the Black Forest, Lower Saxony, Friesland, Schleswig, the Harz Mountains, Hesse and Lusatia, people continued to wear their traditional dress for a long time. In only a few cases has a tradition continued unbroken up to now.

In the last decades of the 19th century, an upsurge of national consciousness all over Europe occurred. Young people, looking for an outward symbol of national and ethnic identity, turned to their native dress as a means of identifying with their region or country. Folk tradition movements began to advocate renewal of existing native dress and contributed to their revival in areas where they had disappeared. One of the oldest known groups is the "Trachtengilde Schwalenberg."

In order to halt the disappearance of traditional costumes in their region, a "Club to Preserve the Costumes of Leizachthal" was founded in 1883 in Bayrischzell. It is assumed that the idea of a "Volkstrachtenverein" devoted to the preservation of native dress, as we know them today, began in Bayrischzell and quickly spread. The sense of community, which began to disappear with ever increasing urbanization, was now regained in the community of a club.

Donning traditional dress is not the only mission for these organizations. Just as important are preserving old customs and the social aspects of coming together. Although exact numbers are not available, it is estimated that in Germany alone about 2,000 such clubs with approximately one and a half million members exist. This is not counting the many folk dancing groups, music groups, etc., dedicated to maintaining traditional customs and dress. As a result, thousands of different costumes have been preserved or rescued from oblivion.

In the Alpine areas popularity of folk-style clothes was further helped by the imperial house of Austria and the royal house of Bavaria who had made wearing native dress fashionable. The hunter's uniform-like green, gray or black suits were the "in" outfit to wear. After WWII, hunter-style clothing increased again. This time due to converting lots of left-over army uniforms into "J刧erkost乵e" for both men and women. The sportswear manufacturers soon began to promote dirndl fashions. It became the "in" thing for a city dweller who was about to vacation in the country to dress "like the natives". The effect pseudo-Bavarians had on local residents is roughly equivalent to that of Germans visiting U.S. festivals with umpah bands, dirndl and lederhosen.

一种FASHIONdirndl dresses
Having become a fashion, dirndl dresses became subject to the laws of fashion: styles began to change quickly. The current trend is toward "the more, the better". It is possible to find on one dress all of the following: lace, eyelet, embroidery, chains, buttons, ruffles and braids. A pattern book of "Folklore Fashions" once featured the following headline: NEU: DIRNDL IM JEANS-LOOK!! Volkstrachtenvereine (native dress societies) dismiss dirndl fashions as Kitsch and in poor taste. And yet many German and Austrian women wear them. There are several reasons for this. Unless involved in costume and folk dance matters, one often is not aware of the difference between native dress and dirndl fashions. Secondly, folk-style fashions are readily available and native dress is not. Thirdly, even those who do know the difference, still wear dirndl dresses simply because, while they are expensive (up to app. $500), they are less costly than a native dress (up to $3,000). However, one can pay just as much for coats and capes, and fancy folk-style clothes for festive occasions, at Loden-Frey in Munich.

The boundaries between traditional dress and fashionable dress have always been fuzzy. Even experts cannot agree. For many wearers traditional garb, native or fashion, remains alive, is worn and enjoyed. It is not something to be admired only in museum cases.

What does this mean for us? Most of us wear fashion dirndl, bought or made. If, as a club, we want to adopt our own "ethnic garb," that seems okay. If someone finds an old native dress in grandmother's chest, this is wonderful. It can be worn or, if very fragile, should be given to a German-American museum. If a dance group wants to go historic with their dances, a few stylized costumes, incorporating major features of area and period, are great. Our possibilities are endless. Most of all it is important to wear and enjoy!

Ruth M. Reichmann
Max Kade German-American Center
Indiana Univ.-Purdue Univ. Indianapolis

Sources: Moltmann, Keynote Address "When People Migrate, They Carry Their Selves Along," Emigration and Settlement Patterns of German Communities in North America, (Indianapolis, 1995), pp. xvii-xxxii

Karen Gottier,"To Dirndl or not to Dirndl?", in The German Folk Dancer, Published by the North American Federation of German Folk Dance Groups, May 1995, Vol. 1, No. 3.

"Traditional Costumes", in FOCUS, No. 3, 1995, p. 11



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FURTHER RESOURCES: compiled by Robert Shea


Teaching exercise with two further links on Trachten
Numerous topical links and huge image archive of German Traditional Dress
Ernst Licht Trachten : Bavarian folk costumes.
Modern variations of traditional styles and women's fashions
Alpentraum, USA. Custom-made clothing for G-A clubs and organizations.

Trachten und Volkskultur: Österreich-Lexikon. Plus Video Clip.

Gauverband Nordamerika - over 70 clubs upholding German customs and dress.

German Corner - Deutsches Eck. Many German products.

Conduct a Yahoo-Deutschland search for Tracht.

German-American Societies, Clubs and Cultural organizations in North America.

Social Manners, Customs, Clothing, Costumes, Alltagskultur. Links.

Conduct internet searches for terms listed in the above article.

zznn123456 : 2007-05-06#390
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时装和名牌不是一回事,我觉得FASHION主要是和传统比.

谢谢08老师,老师留作业的时候说这个题目太大了,因为当时要求写250字左右,就说,你们就从时装来写对时尚的认识:wdb4: ,08老师从这方面你帮偶看看:wdb17:

zznn123456 : 2007-05-06#391
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谢谢,老师转载的文章,偶一定认真拜读

Beijing2008 : 2007-05-06#392
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谢谢08老师,老师留作业的时候说这个题目太大了,因为当时要求写250字左右,就说,你们就从时装来写对时尚的认识:wdb4: ,08老师从这方面你帮偶看看:wdb17:

写的不错!

zznn123456 : 2007-05-06#393
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写的不错!

谢谢08老师:wdb6: ,看了你转的文章后,我想再从传统方面写写看:wdb4:

紫竹林 : 2007-05-06#394
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大家好,五一假期要结束了,我也要继续学习了,加油

感谢马甲,我写作文总是想到就写,写完了自己都不愿意看,所以一直没什么提高,郁闷一下
不过最后那句给上帝看的,主意不错啊,呵呵
如果我有一个愿望的话,我要祈求什么呢???思考中。。。
enjoy the golden week

zznn123456 : 2007-05-06#395
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马甲很幽默,几天不见了,有点想她

借个马甲 : 2007-05-09#396
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In addition, jobs have become more sedentary,(.) (T)telephone,fax machine could be set nearby with the touch(one arm ?) distance if you like,let along the computer which always clings to you all the time(you are sitting in front of to deal with daily work all the time).Also, there is(?) more entertainment that is basically sitting inside,(.)(F)for example,downloading the latest films and favorite music in Internet is(are )becoming a(前面用are 这里就不能用a 了?去掉?) popular pastime not noly (only)among teengers but also among adults at expenses of outdoor activities.


is 为啥不行?

is没错.我把IS涂红了是想表达前面一句已经有个谓语(也被涂红)了,这又有个谓语.呵呵,我下次一定说清楚了.:wdb4:

However,the potato coach tendency will result in the rising obesity, diabetes and heart diseases , () the cost for treatment of these disease will goes up as a result for individuals.




Obviously,the potato coach (decline of activity)tendency will result in the rising (of)obesity, diabetes and heart diseases ,(.) ()(T)the cost for treatment of these diseases will goes up(will be increased) (涂这里是因为will后要用原型动词,换increase的话也好,窃以为主动句即可)as a result for individuals.


Changes to the environment need to be tackled,(词不达意哦,建议考虑一下重写) such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities held by communities ,especailly family events are welcome,(和前面的几个名词性成分不并列,和前面的那个完整的句子逻辑混乱,又接个定语从句,乱)which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offerboth an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.



Changes to the environment need to be tackled,(词不达意哦,建议考虑一下重写)Wherease these above mentioned diseases could have been avoided if people enjoyed a more active lifestyle.The government and local community should make this a much higher profile issue,such as the provision of more and better swimming pools and other sports facilities ,more physical activities,especially family eventsheld by communities,especailly family events are welcome,(和前面的几个名词性成分不并列,和前面的那个完整的句子逻辑混乱,又接个定语从句,乱)which are conducive to form a good habit of doing exercises for children.Moreover,all adults should aim to take 30 minutes of moderate physical activity on five days a week at least. It can be enjoyable, cheap and easy to fit into everyday life. Walking, swimming and jogging are great examples. Finally,ballroom dancing offer(offers)both an activity and the possibility of socialising for people on a regular basis.


In conclusion, some people would like to find a excuse for inactivity,but if they can devote more time to sport than to computer games or other Internet entertainment,they will be becoming more healthy and happy.

[/quote]


好很多哦. 最后一段还是要和全文呼应哦.

给偶讲讲逗号的用法,真不会用呀

逗号的正确使用,其实最重要的就是要掌握一条原则:就是它不可以用来连接两个完整的句子.
所谓完整的句子,就是说主语和谓语俱全的句子. 比如,我们不可以说:I went to the university, my parents were happy. 有的时候插入成分写得很多写忘了结构关系,或者本来想写并列关系的几个名词性成分,却写着写着给加上了谓语动词,这时候就比较容易出现误用逗号连接句子的情况. 解决的方法就是自己写完句子以后再重新读一下,看看逗号前后是否只有一个谓语动词.

一般来讲 and, but等这样的连词前面是不加逗号的.但是现在在英语国家里也渐渐广泛使用开来.使用的时候还是要自己分析两个分句之间的亲疏关系,慎重使用.

还有一些容易被误用的地方.比如使用however,therefore等,使用者误以为它们是连词,可以连接句子,就用逗号来连接.事实上它们都是副词,跟其他以-ly结尾的副词在语法上要等同视之,一定要用句号或者分号来分隔开两句话.

还有一点,我发现很多多年学英语的人都忽视了. 在这里我不妨罗嗦一下. if, when, after, although等这些从属连词使用的时候, 如果它们出现在主句之后,不可以使用逗号.如果它们被前置,则必须使用逗号,然后再写主句.

这些只是我发帖的时候随意想到的,如果有不周全的地方,欢迎和我切磋.

zznn123456 : 2007-05-09#397
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谢谢,马甲

zznn123456 : 2007-05-09#398
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Obviously,the potato coach (decline of activity)tendency will result in the rising (of)obesity, diabetes and heart diseases ,(.) ()(T)the cost for treatment of these diseases will goes up(will be increased) (涂这里是因为will后要用原型动词,换increase的话也好,窃以为主动句即可)as a result for individuals

:wdb1: 这么明显的错误都没看出来:wdb5:

zznn123456 : 2007-05-09#399
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逗号的正确使用,其实最重要的就是要掌握一条原则:就是它不可以用来连接两个完整的句子.
所谓完整的句子,就是说主语和谓语俱全的句子. 比如,我们不可以说:I went to the university, my parents were happy. 有的时候插入成分写得很多写忘了结构关系,或者本来想写并列关系的几个名词性成分,却写着写着给加上了谓语动词,这时候就比较容易出现误用逗号连接句子的情况. 解决的方法就是自己写完句子以后再重新读一下,看看逗号前后是否只有一个谓语动词.:wdb17:

一般来讲 and, but等这样的连词前面是不加逗号的.但是现在在英语国家里也渐渐广泛使用开来.使用的时候还是要自己分析两个分句之间的亲疏关系,慎重使用.

还有一些容易被误用的地方.比如使用however,therefore等,使用者误以为它们是连词,可以连接句子,就用逗号来连接.事实上它们都是副词,跟其他以-ly结尾的副词在语法上要等同视之,一定要用句号或者分号来分隔开两句话.
:wdb17:
还有一点,我发现很多多年学英语的人都忽视了. 在这里我不妨罗嗦一下. if, when, after, although等这些从属连词使用的时候, 如果它们出现在主句之后,不可以使用逗号.如果它们被前置,则必须使用逗号,然后再写主句.

这些只是我发帖的时候随意想到的,如果有不周全的地方,欢迎和我切磋.

zznn123456 : 2007-05-09#400
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请教马甲,

Undoubtedly( ,?)independence shall contribute a lot to their success in job market.

Undoubtedly,后面要不要加,谢谢!

借个马甲 : 2007-05-09#401
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请教马甲,

Undoubtedly( ,?)independence shall contribute a lot to their success in job market.

Undoubtedly,后面要不要加,谢谢!

这个是要加的.像什么fortunately,unfortunately之类的,这样统摄全句的副词提前是要加逗号的.

我上面说的是连接句子的几种情况----句间问题. 至于句中逗号,原则就是看某个词是否是在它本来的位置,如果被移位了,往往要有逗号标记. 还有别的情况,由于句中逗号出错的概率要低一些,我没特意思考过规律哦.

zznn123456 : 2007-05-10#402
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这个是要加的.像什么fortunately,unfortunately之类的,这样统摄全句的副词提前是要加逗号的.

我上面说的是连接句子的几种情况----句间问题. 至于句中逗号,原则就是看某个词是否是在它本来的位置,如果被移位了,往往要有逗号标记. 还有别的情况,由于句中逗号出错的概率要低一些,我没特意思考过规律哦.

说实话,写传真,E-MAIL,好象还很自如,自信,没有出现误会的情况,也就没在意逗号的问题,可是写ESSAY时,开始还留意些,写到后面,就转到中文的思路,"中文一句话没说完不是要用逗号吗?",随手就就加个逗号,没考虑是不是连接俩个完整的句子,经你提醒,以后可能会好些,谢谢!:wdb6:

onlimy : 2007-05-13#403
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zznn,写得好长,我都没力气看了,严重羡慕中,什么时候我的水平能赶上你

zznn123456 : 2007-05-14#404
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zznn,写得好长,我都没力气看了,严重羡慕中,什么时候我的水平能赶上你

有才老师说了,250个字不能将一观点说清楚,多写点吧
这么说,我都不敢写了:wdb13:

angelonduty : 2007-05-14#405
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If not specifically for ielts test, then the more words the better.

紫竹林 : 2007-05-14#406
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平时练习的时候可以多写一些,
不过考试的时候是限时的,所以一定要在规定的时间内完成全文
所以逻辑结构还是很重要的吧,作文也不能虎头蛇尾阿,呵呵
我现在学英语就学的挺迷茫的,反正坚持着吧
大家加油了

angelonduty : 2007-05-16#407
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发现楼主多日不来,何故?
想念!!!

齐二爷 : 2007-05-19#408
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...

长白山 : 2007-05-20#409
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发现楼主多日不来,何故?
想念!!!
同想念!:wdb10:

借个马甲 : 2007-05-20#410
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呜呜 怎么没人想我啊

zznn123456 : 2007-05-20#411
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呜呜 怎么没人想我啊

想念+SW

长白山 : 2007-05-20#412
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呜呜 怎么没人想我啊
想你的人都被你掐死了,呵呵!:wdb6:

借个马甲 : 2007-05-20#413
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谢谢NN的纷纷.呵呵呵... 开心!
TO白山大哥:俺决定换头像了.

zznn123456 : 2007-05-20#414
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马甲,新头像不错

angelonduty : 2007-05-20#415
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欢迎马甲全新闪亮登场,明天给你加FF.

借个马甲 : 2007-05-20#416
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马甲,新头像不错
NN啊,期待看到你的头像哦.呵呵看你的taste啦:wdb10::wdb10:

借个马甲 : 2007-05-20#417
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欢迎马甲全新闪亮登场,明天给你加FF.
偷偷在小本本上记上一笔:angel斑竹欠了俺纷纷.:wdb6:

angelonduty : 2007-05-20#418
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切~
俺也找个小本本记录一下,还给你了.
下回弄个自己的马甲,别老借人家的穿!

长白山 : 2007-05-20#419
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谢谢NN的纷纷.呵呵呵... 开心!
TO白山大哥:俺决定换头像了.
hot,小马甲越来越漂亮了~~:wdb6:

借个马甲 : 2007-05-21#420
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切~
俺也找个小本本记录一下,还给你了.
下回弄个自己的马甲,别老借人家的穿!

:wdb14: 我哭! angel啊,想改名字这事儿,得找家园的谁啊?

hot,小马甲越来越漂亮了~~:wdb6:
嘿嘿. 们是你东北老乡.

angelonduty : 2007-05-21#421
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:wdb14: 我哭! angel啊,想改名字这事儿,得找家园的谁啊?
我看算了,你还是凑合着穿吧,改名可能要通过论坛懂事,惊动面太大.

IBT : 2007-05-22#422
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呵呵,有人想念的感觉真好,谢谢所有的大家:)
因为准备考试所以不能总上网啦,虽然也说是学习,但象我这样意志力薄弱的总免不了跑题灌水,呵呵
被LG狠狠批评教育后,不敢多上网啦,
大家继续努力吧

angelonduty : 2007-05-23#423
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呵呵,有人想念的感觉真好,谢谢所有的大家:)
因为准备考试所以不能总上网啦,虽然也说是学习,但象我这样意志力薄弱的总免不了跑题灌水,呵呵
被LG狠狠批评教育后,不敢多上网啦,
大家继续努力吧
哟,被LG批评了呀?你没把责任推到俺们身上吧?
好好复习考试哦,或许能争取特赦呢.
期待你的issue!

IBT : 2007-07-16#424
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angel不要再把这个帖子置顶啦,我无颜以对啊

yangyang2005 : 2007-07-16#425
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angel不要再把这个帖子置顶啦,我无颜以对啊
:wdb25:
angel 忙,我成全你

你先好好准备考试吧

good luck

IBT : 2007-07-16#426
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:wdb11:
会加油的

yangyang2005 : 2007-07-16#427
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OK

等你忙完了再说吧,以后还可以重新置顶的

IBT : 2007-07-16#428
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呵呵,不要了,有压力啊
以前一直没提出来,是觉得这个帖子不光光是我一个人的汗水
还有大家的心血在里面,所以...

现在昔人已去,此地楼空,
就让它也去吧

yangyang2005 : 2007-07-16#429
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呵呵,不要了,有压力啊
以前一直没提出来,是觉得这个帖子不光光是我一个人的汗水
还有大家的心血在里面,所以...

现在昔人已去,此地楼空,
就让它也去吧


怎会楼空呢?:wdb24:
后来的其他筒子还可以学习啊

IBT : 2007-07-16#430
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呵呵,你说的对 ,希望对大家有所帮助

yangyang2005 : 2007-07-16#431
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Sure!

LittleLion : 2007-10-02#432
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有帮助,等IBT有空时再置顶吧。虽然俺暂时还不准备focus写作,看着也舒服。
IBT很细心地整理了文章,多谢

IBT : 2007-10-03#433
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嗨,谢啦
说得我都不好意思啦

LittleLion : 2007-10-04#434
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哎呀,表脸红吗!等过段,我开始练写作了,一定来这学习。顶先