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海归回流知多少,移民加国到底值不值?ZT

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/117732/

crystal_clear : 2007-07-11#1
海归回流知多少,移民加国到底值不值?ZT

常见网友们为出国值不值,回流该不该争持不下,我曾简单地说一句:既来之,则安之。其实去留之间的选择用事实表明态度最为直截了当,是去是留,你的行动就是最好的答案。虽然在做出决定的时候会有一番痛苦的抉择,一旦决定做出就如同发出的箭,只有前进之途,决无后退之理。如果箭已出,却又改变主意,那也没关系,杀个回马枪也未尝不可。总之,选择是艰难的,行动则必须果敢坚定。最忌讳那种前怕狼后怕虎,出来总念叨往昔的好日子,回去又放不下今天的新诱惑。
客观地说,如果你在国内有份很好的事业或工作,特别是在什么级别以上的干部,那你可得考虑清楚,非到退休或避难的地步,最好还是在国内将革命进行到底,千万别出来受洋罪。
如果在国内怀才不遇,想换个环境,求个发展,做好吃大苦受磨难的准备,破斧沉舟地搏一把,也没什么大不了,别人能吃你能吃,别人能扛你能扛,不是说:一年大苦,二年小苦,三年不苦吗?虽然没有那么准确,但也说明苦尽甘来的道理,在国外,一分耕耘一分收获,这就是为什么许多精英豪杰乐在异国他乡闯荡的缘由。
可以说,能出国的人不是精英也是人材,不是英雄也是好汉。譬如一个国家是一口井,出那个国起码可以看到另一重天地,哪怕落到另一个井里也是过别样的生活,人生多了一重经历必将多些感受也能更全面地体验生命的价值和意义。在另一个国度生活,语言文化不同,风俗习惯不同,举目无亲,没有根基,想要扎根,寻求发展,确实困难重重,不仅要经受肉体上的磨难,还要经历思想上的洗礼,但这般撕裂的生活既然是我们自己的选择,也就实在怨不得别人,能忍且忍,不能忍也得忍,实在忍不下去只有回国。关键是,回国后你能否找到原先的感觉,跟得上国内形势发展的需要吗?最难堪的就是:在国外总觉得虎落平阳;回国后又感叹龙搁浅滩。
海归回流率有多大,什么样的人在去留之间无所适从?让我们来看看下面的报道和分析。20069月,中国人才研究会指出:海归率还是低,中国面临人才泡沫化。据中国人才研究会副会长王通讯粗略估算:20多年来中国到海外留学人员总数达93万,而归国创业的只有23万。这只是官方的报道,其中提到的海归率可能基本上为公派,不回国实在有愧于良心。那些砸掉国内工作饭碗自费出国的移民,海归的可能性应该比公派的少很多,试想自己了断国内的退路,不混出个名堂又有何脸面见江东父老?而混出名堂后好马又怎么会去吃回头草?即使回去找到暂时心仪的工作,不少人因为事业、家庭和孩子的缘由最终又出国定居。至于那些以难民身份和冒着生命危险偷渡来国外的移民肯定不会回流,应该说他们呆在国外的艰难和辛酸程度比起正常的移民不知要痛苦多少倍。
选择在中国还是外国定居时总是犹豫徘徊的人大体上有两类,一类是在中国和外国都有生意的投资移民,他们经常在空中飞来飞去,因为家多业大钱撑腰,在那里居住都春风得意;另一类是实行一家两治,既不愿放弃国内薪金优厚的工作,也想享受国外子女教育优惠等福利,并且为自己的未来留条后路,这类人多数是将妻儿放在国外而自己在国内打拼。若算起来,这两类人应该是海归和回流人员的主力军。
与那些早期移民相比,我们现在的境况和待遇真是幸运。1858年,随着加拿大不列颠哥伦比亚省发现金矿的消息传开,一些为生活所迫的中国人前来淘金,淘金需要冒险、机遇和运气,因此早期的中国移民数量并不多。不久后,加拿大政府一项庞大工程――太平洋铁路的开工,终于掀起了中国移民的热潮。在中介公司的操作下,1881―1884年,1万多名华工来到了加拿大。据说,参加筑路的1.57万名华工中,最终有4000多人客死他乡。面对华工艰苦卓绝的贡献,连加拿大首任总理麦克唐纳都感慨道:没有中国工人,就没有太平洋铁路。当这条号称加拿大动脉的铁路完工时,加拿大舆论一致认为,每一段路轨,都有华工的血泪和白骨!
自二十世纪六十年代以来,加拿大开始加强引进具有较高学历和工作技能的移民,由此导致具有高等教育学历的新移民源源不断进入加拿大。新一代移民已改变落叶归根的传统观念,转而追求落地生根,既然决定成为这片土地不可分割的一部分,就应该如水般融入这块土地,滋润这方养育我们的土地,因为这里将是我们为之奋斗的国度,也是子孙后代的故乡,是他们成长生活的地方。
总体上看,加拿大是一个拥有比较完善的教育及社会福利制度的国家,曾连续7年,被联合国评选为世界上最适于居住的国家。加拿大的移民政策又相对宽松且灵活,她的多元文化政策也得到世界各国的认可,尤其移民的权力在宪法中得到充分体现和保障。
俗话说:人挪活,树挪死。移民的初衷是寻求一种崭新美好的生活,但现实与理想总会有差距,再者,实现或接近理想也要有一个奋斗的过程。移到一个新的国度,等于一切从零开始,没有吃苦耐劳的思想准备和接受困难挑战的勇气是注定要大失所望。
比起那些被歧视受压迫赤手空拳开辟新天地的早期移民,现在的移民实在没什么可抱怨,其一,在国内的生活还不到贫困潦倒的地步;其二,在这里的生存也不是水深火热的程度。如果不能适应加国的生活,回国努力也可踏上小康之路;如果最终还是决定留在加国,那么就说明经过体验,感到加拿大还是一个适于生存和发展的现代化国家。
想想我们为什么背井离乡?不就是为了寻找一种自由、民主、博爱、丰富,有着美好前景的生活?既然我们想要自己的后代生活在宽松民主的环境,在这块土地生根、发芽、开花、结果,成为这块土地真正的主人,就让我们做那土壤必需的水,把自己献给土壤的水,也必将从土壤中获取永不枯竭的源泉。
有人说:第一代移民是劳力又劳心。此话一点不假。移民的过程是一个蜕变的过程,也是一个涅磐的过程,如果不能升华,那么就只有堕落。但是,哪怕堕落,也该像瀑布一样堕落,在堕落的同时也奉献出自己的微薄之力,而堕落的结果也许就闯出另一方新天地。
一代人的付出是远远不够的,需要几代甚至十几代人持之以恒地努力去实现我们移民想要实现的梦想。
说到底,移民加国到底值不值?这是个仁者见仁,智者见智的问题,答案就是你的去留选项。

Darenwu : 2007-07-11#2
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分析得很透彻,完全同意。值不值都是自己的选择,最好不要左右摇摆(我自己其实也很摇摆,呵呵。。)

yangyang2005 : 2007-07-11#3
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thanks for sharing

shw019 : 2007-07-11#4
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Thanks!

轻风吹过 : 2007-07-11#5
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说得好!

army : 2007-07-11#6
海归回流知多少,移民到底值不值?

常见网友们为出国值不值,回流该不该争持不下,我曾简单地说一句:既来之,则安之。其实去留之间的选择用事实表明态度最为直截了当,是去是留,你的行动就是最好的答案。虽然在做出决定的时候会有一番痛苦的抉择,一旦决定做出就如同发出的箭,只有前进之途,决无后退之理。如果箭已出,却又改变主意,那也没关系,杀个回马枪也未尝不可。总之,选择是艰难的,行动则必须果敢坚定。最忌讳那种前怕狼后怕虎,出来总念叨往昔的好日子,回去又放不下今天的新诱惑。
  客观地说,如果你在国内有份很好的事业或工作,特别是在什么级别以上的干部,那你可得考虑清楚,非到退休或避难的地步,最好还是在国内将革命进行到底,千万别出来受洋罪。
  如果在国内怀才不遇,想换个环境,求个发展,做好吃大苦受磨难的准备,破斧沉舟地搏一把,也没什么大不了,别人能吃你能吃,别人能扛你能扛,不是说:“一年大苦,二年小苦,三年不苦”吗?虽然没有那么准确,但也说明苦尽甘来的道理,在国外,一分耕耘一分收获,这就是为什么许多精英豪杰乐在异国他乡闯荡的缘由。
  可以说,能出国的人不是精英也是人材,不是英雄也是好汉。譬如一个国家是一口井,出那个国起码可以看到另一重天地,哪怕落到另一个井里也是过别样的生活,人生多了一重经历必将多些感受也能更全面地体验生命的价值和意义。在另一个国度生活,语言文化不同,风俗习惯不同,举目无亲,没有根基,想要扎根,寻求发展,确实困难重重,不仅要经受肉体上的磨难,还要经历思想上的洗礼,但这般撕裂的生活既然是我们自己的选择,也就实在怨不得别人,能忍且忍,不能忍也得忍,实在忍不下去只有回国。关键是,回国后你能否找到原先的感觉,跟得上国内形势发展的需要吗?最难堪的就是:在国外总觉得虎落平阳;回国后又感叹龙搁浅滩。
  海归回流率有多大,什么样的人在去留之间无所适从?让我们来看看下面的报道和分析。2006年9月,中国人才研究会指出:海归率还是低, 中国面临人才泡沫化。据中国人才研究会副会长王通讯粗略估算:20多年来中国到海外留学人员总数达93万,而归国创业的只有23万。这只是官方的报道,其中提到的海归率可能基本上为公派,不回国实在有愧于良心。那些砸掉国内工作饭碗自费出国的移民,海归的可能性应该比公派的少很多,试想自己了断国内的退路,不混出个名堂又有何脸面见江东父老?而混出名堂后好马又怎么会去吃回头草?即使回去找到暂时心仪的工作,不少人因为事业、家庭和孩子的缘由最终又出国定居。至于那些以难民身份和冒着生命危险偷渡来国外的移民肯定不会回流,应该说他们呆在国外的艰难和辛酸程度比起正常的移民不知要痛苦多少倍。
  选择在中国还是外国定居时总是犹豫徘徊的人大体上有两类,一类是在中国和外国都有生意的投资移民,他们经常在空中飞来飞去,因为家多业大钱撑腰,在那里居住都春风得意;另一类是实行一家两治,既不愿放弃国内薪金优厚的工作,也想享受国外子女教育优惠等福利,并且为自己的未来留条后路,这类人多数是将妻儿放在国外而自己在国内打拼。若算起来,这两类人应该是海归和回流人员的主力军。
  与那些早期移民相比,我们现在的境况和待遇真是幸运。1858年,随着加拿大不列颠哥伦比亚省发现金矿的消息传开,一些为生活所迫的中国人前来淘金,淘金需要冒险、机遇和运气,因此早期的中国移民数量并不多。不久后,加拿大政府一项庞大工程――太平洋铁路的开工,终于掀起了中国移民的热潮。在中介公司的操作下,1881年―1884年,1万多名华工来到了加拿大。据说,参加筑路的1.57万名华工中,最终有4000多人客死他乡。面对华工艰苦卓绝的贡献,连加拿大首任总理麦克唐纳都感慨道:“没有中国工人,就没有太平洋铁路”。当这条号称“加拿大动脉”的铁路完工时,加拿大舆论一致认为,每一段路轨,都有华工的血泪和白骨!
  自二十世纪六十年代以来,加拿大开始加强引进具有较高学历和工作技能的移民,由此导致具有高等教育学历的新移民源源不断进入加拿大。新一代移民已改变”落叶归根”的传统观念,转而追求”落地生根”,既然决定成为这片土地不可分割的一部分,就应该如水般融入这块土地,滋润这方养育我们的土地,因为这里将是我们为之奋斗的国度,也是子孙后代的故乡,是他们成长生活的地方。
  总体上看,加拿大是一个拥有比较完善的教育及社会福利制度的国家,曾连续7年,被联合国评选为世界上最适于居住的国家。加拿大的移民政策又相对宽松且灵活,她的多元文化政策也得到世界各国的认可,尤其移民的权力在宪法中得到充分体现和保障。
  俗话说:人挪活,树挪死。移民的初衷是寻求一种崭新美好的生活,但现实与理想总会有差距,再者,实现或接近理想也要有一个奋斗的过程。移到一个新的国度,等于一切从零开始,没有吃苦耐劳的思想准备和接受困难挑战的勇气是注定要大失所望。
 比起那些被歧视受压迫赤手空拳开辟新天地的早期移民,现在的移民实在没什么可抱怨,其一,在国内的生活还不到贫困潦倒的地步;其二,在这里的生存也不是水深火热的程度。如果不能适应加国的生活,回国努力也可踏上小康之路;如果最终还是决定留在加国,那么就说明经过体验,感到加拿大还是一个适于生存和发展的现代化国家。
  想想我们为什么背井离乡?不就是为了寻找一种自由、民主、博爱、丰富,有着美好前景的生活?既然我们想要自己的后代生活在宽松民主的环境,在这块土地生根、发芽、开花、结果,成为这块土地真正的主人,就让我们做那土壤必需的水,把自己献给土壤的水,也必将从土壤中获取永不枯竭的源泉。
  有人说:第一代移民是劳力又劳心。此话一点不假。移民的过程是一个蜕变的过程,也是一个涅磐的过程,如果不能升华,那么就只有堕落。但是,哪怕堕落,也该像瀑布一样堕落,在“堕落”的同时也奉献出自己的微薄之力,而“堕落”的结果也许就闯出另一方新天地。
  一代人的付出是远远不够的,需要几代甚至十几代人持之以恒地努力去实现我们移民想要实现的梦想。

alex_lz2005 : 2007-07-11#7
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zt 也不能少了历史的这一页。。。

加拿大“人头税”问题由来

  2006年6月21日下午,当承载一百多位“人头税”苦主及后人代表的“平反列车”抵达加拿大首都渥太华火车站时,现年已106岁的当年铁路华工李龙基坐在轮椅上,双手紧紧抱着一颗锈迹斑斑的道钉。正是这颗钉子,承载着一百二十几年前加拿大华人那沉重而辛酸的历史。
  十九世纪后期,先后有超过15000名华工参与修筑连贯加拿大东西海岸的太平洋铁路,其中4000多人客死异乡。虽然中国劳工为建设铁路做出了重要贡献,但在1885年铁路竣工后,在敲入最后一颗道钉的庆功仪式上,却找不到一个华人的身影。不仅如此,加政府还通过《华人入境条例》,从那时起至1923年,华人移民每人入境必须缴纳“人头税”,数目从50加元一直涨到500加元,这相当于当时一名华工两年的薪水。

  据统计,在1885年到1923年的近40年间,加政府共向八万一千多名中国移民征收了总计2300多万加元的人头税。在1923年至1947年期间,当时的加政府又通过实施排华法案禁止华人入境。

  进入上世纪八十年代,广大华人社团开始为“人头税”的平反奔走呼号,呼吁加政府承认错误,承认华人对国家所做出的贡献。平反行动得到了很多主流社会正义人士的同情和支持。为表示支持,一位名叫皮埃尔·伯顿的作家在去世前特地把这“最后一颗道钉”捐赠给了华人社区。

  经过二十多年抗争,随着华人社会地位和经济实力的提高,加历届政府对平反“人头税” 的态度经历了从不与理睬,到虚与委蛇,再到积极处理的转变。在今年1月联邦大选中,“人头税”问题成为争取百万华人选票的重要议题。保守党政府总理哈珀上台后,一直表示将兑现大选承诺,平反“人头税”,并最终定于本月22日在议会举行“人头税”平反仪式,正式就歧视华人的“人头税”政策向全加华人作出正式道歉,并公布平反方案。

  “最后一颗道钉”记录了华人被羞辱的过去,如今它又成为华人洗刷百年耻辱的见证。而时至今日,八万多名“人头税”受害者中,在世的已不到20人。李龙基17岁时来到加拿大作铁路劳工,是仍健在的最年长的“人头税”受害者。

  加总理今天一声“迟来的”道歉具有极大的象征意义,旅加华人的历史因之而翻过了崭新的一页。

The Chinese head tax was a fixed fee charged for each Chinese person entering Canada. The head tax was first levied after the Canadian Government passed the Chinese Immigration Act of 1885. The act was replaced by the Chinese Immigration Act of 1923, where it excluded Chinese immigration altogether. It was meant to discourage Chinese from entering Canada after the completion of the Canadian Pacific Railway.

Contents


* 1 History
* 2 Raising the Tax
* 3 Impact of the head tax
* 4 Movement for redress
o 4.1 Liberal Government's proposed foundation
o 4.2 Conservative Government Apology
* 5 Today


History

Canada's federal Chinese Immigration Act of 1885 stipulated that all Chinese entering Canada pay a $50 fee, later referred to as a head tax. (Prior attempts by the Colony, then, Province, of British Columbia, to introduce similar, usurious taxes had been struck down by successive court decisions as 'ultra vires' [beyond the powers of] the provincial legislature because they impinged upon federal jurisdiction over immigration.).

As a dominion of the British Empire, Canada tried to discourage, but could not, by its international obligations, completely eliminate, Chinese immigration at its borders. Following the Opium Wars, which saw China a defeated nation, the British Empire forced a series of Treaties upon China, which demanded the "free flow" of immigration to facilitate its opium trade.

Therefore, Canada's enacting legislation was named the Chinese "Immigration Act," although, clearly, it was intended to discourage, or exclude all Chinese newcomers to Canada, but for its obvious, political and legal obstacles. Scholars and historians have referred to it, and, later the Chinese Immigration Act of 1923, which barred Chinese immigration, as the Chinese "Exclusion" Act, instead.

Some arrivals were presumed to return to China after "sojourning" to Canada because of their transitory occupation, or background (students, teachers, missionaries, merchants, members of the diplomatic corps) and were, therefore, exempt from paying these extortionate penalties. As a result, these measures caused great pain and suffering to the most vulnerable, or impoverished, class of Chinese arrivals--those who were at the bottom of the economic ladder.

Raising the Tax

The Government of Canada, under subsequent Liberal administrations, increased the tax to $100 and, then, $500, under the Chinese Immigration Act of 1900 and the Chinese Immigration Act of 1903, respectively, on the pretext that the penalties did not sufficiently deter Chinese immigration amidst the racist hysteria on Canada's west coast. (Although the idea of a poll tax was borrowed from the white supremacy policies of Australia, it had already been quickly abolished there as "unbecoming an intelligent and civilized people," while successive administrations in Ottawa continued to see the revenue as a major windfall.)

In the early 1900s, the value of $500 was enough to purchase two homes in Montreal, or a 1/4 section of land in many provinces. These penalties, or taxes, never actually benefitted the original payers as the funds went into a Consolidated Revenue Fund and were spent on public facilities from which Chinese were generally barred--and, who, later, also had their right to vote taken away, as "dis-enfranchised" subjects (i.e., taxation, without representation). Some, therefore, point out that the use of "head tax," is a great euphemism, or misnomer, in both the literal and legal sense of the terms.

At the same time, Liberal immigration policy under Minister Clifford Sifton saw the federal government offer free land and financial incentives to white, European settlers, in an effort to purge the country of its "Yellow Peril" and populate the west with a 'superior' race of people, spurred by social Darwinism and the false ideas introduced by such authors as Magistrate Emily Murphy.

Families, sometimes, entire villages, in China were required to raise and advance funds to the payer who spent several years in indentured servitude in Canada to pay off the debt. These acts were regarded as examples of anti-Chinese legislation in Canada that were part of general institutional racism against the Chinese in Canada.

In 1909, William Lyon Mackenzie King, who was a Member of Parliament for the Canadian House of Commons before becoming Liberal Prime Minister, represented the British Empire at an anti-opium conference in Beijing. According to popular, Eurocentric scholarship, King told the Qing Dynasty that he would try to persuade the government in reducing the sum of the head tax if his Chinese counterparts could restrict Chinese migration to Canada. The relevance of this exchange remains a major source of contention, as further research (including sources in the Chinese language and dialogue in the House of Common Debates) affirms the Chinese Consul having made several, unsuccessful attempts to improve the treatment of Chinese in Canada and their status as loyal subjects, despite Canada's total disregard of its international obligations for the Chinese people.

The Chinese were the only ethnic group that had to pay a Head Tax to enter Canada. Other Asians, such as the East Indians and the Japanese, were not subject to a Head Tax.

Before the Statute of Westminster 1931, the Government of the United Kingdom controlled Canada's international affairs. Canada could not deter citizens from India, which was still a British crown colony, or Japan, which agreed to the Anglo-Japanese Alliance in 1902. Yet, the Government of Canada made efforts to require citizens of Japan and other British Far Eastern colonies to have to travel by direct voyage, only.

Impact of the head tax

The Government of Canada collected well over $24 million in face value from about 81,000 head tax payers, some of the money being used to support Canada's war effort in World War I. The total head tax collected by 1923 has been estimated as equivalent to over $1.2 billion in 1988 dollars.

In terms of social impact, due to the tax, Chinese Canadian communities in Canada became a "bachelor society," since many families in China could not afford to pay the tax to send for their families to Canada. Significantly, families were separated for several decades, and the growth of Canada's Chinese community remained stunted for several generations, despite having a history in the country that spans almost two centuries.

Movement for redress

In the 1980s, many Chinese and groups lobbied for a refund of the head tax, and an apology, or formal acknowledgement, from the Government of Canada.

Of these groups, the Chinese Canadian National Council (CCNC) began the movement for the government to act, even taking legal action against the federal government. It argued that the federal government has a moral responsibility for its racist past and should not be profiting from racism, that the apology and compensation for the internment of Japanese Canadians during World War II set a precedent for redressing racially motivated policies. For many years, the Canadian government refused to apologize, citing the possibility of legal liabilities.

An Ontario provincial court declared in 2003, however, that the Government of Canada had no obligation to redress the head tax levied on Chinese immigrants under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as it has no retroactive application, and that the case of internment of Japanese Canadians was not a legal precedent for compensating past racist policies.

Conversely, in response to a submission by the Chinese Canadian Redress Alliance in Montreal, a timely Report in 2004 by Doudou Diène, United Nations Special Rapporteur on Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance, concluded that Canada should redress the head tax to Chinese Canadians, but Heritage Canada refused for several years to address the issue financially.

Liberal Government's proposed foundation

To the surprise of many, on November 17, 2005, a group calling itself the National Congress of Chinese Canadians announced an "agreement" with the out-going Liberal administration to pay $12.5 million for the creation of a new non-profit foundation to educate Canadians about anti-Chinese discrimination. The payments (of the, now, failed, agreement) would have gone to a foundation, not to individuals who had paid the tax, with a specific, pre-condition of "no apology" by the government.

This proposal was instantly met by controversy.

Among other things, the deal had been negotiated without the participation of a number of the most active groups across Canada, including the CCNC.

Accordingly, when the Department of Heritage announced its preliminary agreement on November 24, 2005, funding was suddenly reduced to $2.5 million--most likely the result of fierce and obvious opposition in the broader community. It was also later, revealed that Raymond Chan, the government official claiming to have negotiated with community groups who held no family ties to the issue, purposely misled the government and public that the Chinese Chinese community was willing to accept "no apology, [and] no [individual or collective] compensation."

The authors of the unpopular proposal also claimed support of 11 Chinese-Canadian groups. Yet, upon further examination, some of the named groups stated publicly that their names had been used without permission; several other groups listed, did not even exist. The out-going Liberal Government tabled bill C-333 (as a private member's bill) to implement the deal in November 2004, but this bill died when the Government fell on November 28, 2005.

Opposition grew louder in the Chinese Canadian community and, in response, major redress-seeking alliances and coalitions were formed. This marked a major turning point for the Head Tax Campaign across Canada. The public lobby took prominence during and after, the 2006 federal election. In addition, significant, individual efforts in private, would lead to future negotiations with the Conservative Party.

In prior election campaigns in 2004 and 2006, opposition parties, including the New Democratic Party and Bloc Quebecois had already stated their support for an apology and redress for the head tax.

On December 8, 2005, Conservative Party leader Stephen Harper released a press statement expressing his support for an apology for the head tax. As a part of his 2006 election platform, Mr. Harper promised to work with the Chinese community on redress should the Conservatives form the next government.[1]

Before ultimately losing the federal election, the out-going Prime Minister and Liberal Party leader Paul Martin issued a half-hearted personal apology on a Chinese language radio program. However, he was quickly criticized by the Chinese Canadian community for not issuing the apology in Parliament and, then, trying to dismiss it completely in the English-speaking media on the very same day. Several Liberal candidates with significant Chinese-Canadian populations in their ridings, including Vancouver-Kingsway MP David Emerson, and the Minister of State (Multiculturalism) and Richmond MP Raymond Chan, also made futile attempts to change their positions in the midst of the 2006 election campaign.

Conservative Government Apology

The Conservative Party won the election with a minority government, with (newly elected) Prime Minister Stephen Harper reiterating his position on the Head Tax issue in a news conference on January 26, 2006:

"Chinese Canadians are making an extraordinary impact on the building of our country. They've also made a significant historical contribution despite many obstacles. That's why, as I said during the election campaign, the Chinese Canadian community deserves an apology for the head tax and appropriate acknowledgement and redress."[2]

Formal discussions on the form of apology and redress began on March 24, 2006 with a preliminary meeting with Chinese Canadians representing various groups (including some head tax payers), Heritage Minister Bev Oda, and Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister Jason Kenney, resulting in the "distinct possibility" of a formal government apology before July 1, 2006 to commemorate the anniversary of the enacting of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1923.[3]

The meeting was followed by the Conservative government's acknowledgement on April 4, 2006 in its Speech from the Throne that an apology would be given along with proper redress.[4]

From April 21-30, 2006, the Conservative government hosted public, national consultations across Canada in cities most actively involved in the campaign, since it first began: Halifax, Vancouver, Toronto, Edmonton, Montreal, and Winnipeg. They included the personal testimony of elders and representatives from a number of groups, among them, the Halifax Redress Committee; the BC Coalition of Head Tax Payers, Spouses & Descendants; ACCESS; the Ontario Coalition of Head Payers & Families; the CCNC; the Edmonton Redress Committee of the Chinese Canadian Historical Association of Alberta; and, the National Redress Alliance headquartered in Montreal.

Today

Currently, the major issues revolve around the content of any future settlement, with the leading groups demanding meaningful redress, not only for the handful of surviving "head tax" payers and widows/spouses, but first-generation sons/daughters who were direct victims.

Some have proposed that the redress be based on the number of "Head Tax" Certificates (or estates) brought forward by surviving sons/daughters who are still able to register their claims, with proposals for individual redress, ranging from $10,000 to 30,000 for an estimated 4,000 registrants.

On June 22, 2006, Prime Minister Stephen Harper offered an apology and compensation only for the head tax once paid by Chinese immigrants[1]. Survivors or their spouses will be paid approximately $20,000 CAD in compensation. There are only an estimated 20 Chinese Canadians who paid the tax still alive in 2006. [5]

As no mention of redress for the 4,000 immediated families who were directly affected was made, the Chinese Canadian community continues to fight for redress from the Canadian government. A national day of protest was held on July 1, 2006 in major cities across Canada, with several hundred Chinese Canadians joining in local marches.

A few weeks after its apology to the Chinese Canadian community, the Conservative government announced that it would begin to offer proper redress to the approximately 5,000 victims of the tainted blood (Red Cross) campaign who were excluded by the earlier settlement of the previous Liberal government.

wgzyl : 2007-07-11#8
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海龟回流?

牛牛牛 : 2007-07-11#9
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文章很精彩!

wagner : 2007-07-11#10
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移民不是为了出路,我是为了生活而且为了体现自己的能力。

wewafifa : 2007-07-11#11
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我是为了新的发展!很期待me的到来,!在等下去我就老拉!

admin : 2007-07-11#12
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重复
http://post.iask.ca/canadameet/topic/117732

再次流浪 : 2007-07-11#13
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我是为了新的发展!很期待me的到来,!在等下去我就老拉!
:wdb9:我也是 同感

牛牛和2008 : 2007-07-11#14
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顶!

大胃贝克汉姆 : 2007-07-11#15
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回来后狂后悔.

cdegt : 2007-07-12#16
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回来后狂后悔.

呵呵,别后悔了,都是自己选的,很多东西是人生必须要经历的,是财富

为了家庭和爱情 : 2007-07-12#17
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反正是英语不好不要来,我想想就后怕,如果是前2年就业形势不好的时候来,我这英语水平还不得饿死??

Janeluo : 2007-07-12#18
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挣钱,学英语

wenziwei99 : 2007-07-12#19
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beautiful essay

战斗在加国 : 2007-07-12#20
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life990 : 2007-07-13#21
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呵呵,关注一下,大胃就是后悔的那一批

forever : 2007-07-15#22
ZT移民加拿大到底值不值

[FONT=宋体]移民加拿大到底值不值[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]来源:加拿大家园 爱米 [/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]常见网友们为出国值不值,回流该不该争持不下,我曾简单地说一句:既来之,则安之。其实去留之间的选择用事实表明态度最为直截了当,是去是留,你的行动就是最好的答案。虽然在做出决定的时候会有一番痛苦的抉择,一旦决定做出就如同发出的箭,只有前进之途,决无后退之理。如果箭已出,却又改变主意,那也没关系,杀个回马枪也未尝不可。总之,选择是艰难的,行动则必须果敢坚定。最忌讳那种前怕狼后怕虎,出来总念叨往昔的好日子,回去又放不下今天的新诱惑。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  客观地说,如果你在国内有份很好的事业或工作,特别是在什么级别以上的干部,那你可得考虑清楚,非到退休或避难的地步,最好还是在国内将革命进行到底,千万别出来受洋罪。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  如果在国内怀才不遇,想换个环境,求个发展,做好吃大苦受磨难的准备,破斧沉舟地搏一把,也没什么大不了,别人能吃你能吃,别人能扛你能扛,不是说:“一年大苦,二年小苦,三年不苦”吗?虽然没有那么准确,但也说明苦尽甘来的道理,在国外,一分耕耘一分收获,这就是为什么许多精英豪杰乐在异国他乡闯荡的缘由。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  可以说,能出国的人不是精英也是人材,不是英雄也是好汉。譬如一个国家是一口井,出那个国起码可以看到另一重天地,哪怕落到另一个井里也是过别样的生活,人生多了一重经历必将多些感受也能更全面地体验生命的价值和意义。在另一个国度生活,语言文化不同,风俗习惯不同,举目无亲,没有根基,想要扎根,寻求发展,确实困难重重,不仅要经受肉体上的磨难,还要经历思想上的洗礼,但这般撕裂的生活既然是我们自己的选择,也就实在怨不得别人,能忍且忍,不能忍也得忍,实在忍不下去只有回国。关键是,回国后你能否找到原先的感觉,跟得上国内形势发展的需要吗?最难堪的就是:在国外总觉得虎落平阳;回国后又感叹龙搁浅滩。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  海归回流率有多大,什么样的人在去留之间无所适从?让我们来看看下面的报道和分析。2006年9月,中国人才研究会指出:海归率还是低,中国面临人才泡沫化。据中国人才研究会副会长王通讯粗略估算:20多年来中国到海外留学人员总数达93万,而归国创业的只有23万。这只是官方的报道,其中提到的海归率可能基本上为公派,不回国实在有愧于良心。那些砸掉国内工作饭碗自费出国的移民,海归的可能性应该比公派的少很多,试想自己了断国内的退路,不混出个名堂又有何脸面见江东父老?而混出名堂后好马又怎么会去吃回头草?即使回去找到暂时心仪的工作,不少人因为事业、家庭和孩子的缘由最终又出国定居。至于那些以难民身份和冒着生命危险偷渡来国外的移民肯定不会回流,应该说他们呆在国外的艰难和辛酸程度比起正常的移民不知要痛苦多少倍。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  选择在中国还是外国定居时总是犹豫徘徊的人大体上有两类,一类是在中国和外国都有生意的投资移民,他们经常在空中飞来飞去,因为家多业大钱撑腰,在那里居住都春风得意;另一类是实行一家两治,既不愿放弃国内薪金优厚的工作,也想享受国外子女教育优惠等福利,并且为自己的未来留条后路,这类人多数是将妻儿放在国外而自己在国内打拼。若算起来,这两类人应该是海归和回流人员的主力军。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  与那些早期移民相比,我们现在的境况和待遇真是幸运。1858年,随着加拿大不列颠哥伦比亚省发现金矿的消息传开,一些为生活所迫的中国人前来淘金,淘金需要冒险、机遇和运气,因此早期的中国移民数量并不多。不久后,加拿大政府一项庞大工程――太平洋铁路的开工,终于掀起了中国移民的热潮。在中介公司的操作下,1881年―1884年,1万多名华工来到了加拿大。据说,参加筑路的1.57万名华工中,最终有4000多人客死他乡。面对华工艰苦卓绝的贡献,连加拿大首任总理麦克唐纳都感慨道:“没有中国工人,就没有太平洋铁路”。当这条号称“加拿大动脉”的铁路完工时,加拿大舆论一致认为,每一段路轨,都有华工的血泪和白骨![/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  自二十世纪六十年代以来,加拿大开始加强引进具有较高学历和工作技能的移民,由此导致具有高等教育学历的新移民源源不断进入加拿大。新一代移民已改变”落叶归根”的传统观念,转而追求”落地生根”,既然决定成为这片土地不可分割的一部分,就应该如水般融入这块土地,滋润这方养育我们的土地,因为这里将是我们为之奋斗的国度,也是子孙后代的故乡,是他们成长生活的地方。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  总体上看,加拿大是一个拥有比较完善的教育及社会福利制度的国家,曾连续7年,被联合国评选为世界上最适于居住的国家。加拿大的移民政策又相对宽松且灵活,她的多元文化政策也得到世界各国的认可,尤其移民的权力在宪法中得到充分体现和保障。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  俗话说:人挪活,树挪死。移民的初衷是寻求一种崭新美好的生活,但现实与理想总会有差距,再者,实现或接近理想也要有一个奋斗的过程。移到一个新的国度,等于一切从零开始,没有吃苦耐劳的思想准备和接受困难挑战的勇气是注定要大失所望。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  比起那些被歧视受压迫赤手空拳开辟新天地的早期移民,现在的移民实在没什么可抱怨,其一,在国内的生活还不到贫困潦倒的地步;其二,在这里的生存也不是水深火热的程度。如果不能适应加国的生活,回国努力也可踏上小康之路;如果最终还是决定留在加国,那么就说明经过体验,感到加拿大还是一个适于生存和发展的现代化国家。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  想想我们为什么背井离乡?不就是为了寻找一种自由、民主、博爱、丰富,有着美好前景的生活?既然我们想要自己的后代生活在宽松民主的环境,在这块土地生根、发芽、开花、结果,成为这块土地真正的主人,就让我们做那土壤必需的水,把自己献给土壤的水,也必将从土壤中获取永不枯竭的源泉。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  有人说:第一代移民是劳力又劳心。此话一点不假。移民的过程是一个蜕变的过程,也是一个涅磐的过程,如果不能升华,那么就只有堕落。但是,哪怕堕落,也该像瀑布一样堕落,在“堕落”的同时也奉献出自己的微薄之力,而“堕落”的结果也许就闯出另一方新天地。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  一代人的付出是远远不够的,需要几代甚至十几代人持之以恒地努力去实现我们移民想要实现的梦想。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  说到底,移民加国到底值不值?这是个仁者见仁,智者见智的问题,答案就是你的去留选项。[/FONT]

淑女1 : 2007-07-15#23
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楼主写得真好。正在痛苦的蜕变呢,加分鼓励。

kelly king : 2007-07-15#24
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写的太好拉,有同感.大力支持

lamborghini : 2007-07-15#25
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funding was suddenly reduced to $2.5 million--most likely the result of fierce and obvious opposition in the broader community. It was also later, revealed that Raymond Chan, the government official claiming to have negotiated with community groups who held no family ties to the issue, purposely misled the government and public that the Chinese Chinese community was willing to accept "no apology, [and] no [individual or collective] compensation."
---------------------------------------------------------------看见没有,中国人又出内奸了。

张雯琦 : 2007-07-15#26
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好帖子

为了家庭和爱情 : 2007-07-16#27
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就是吃得方面太不习惯。

晚秋枫叶 : 2007-07-16#28
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挣钱,学英语

hohenzollens : 2007-07-17#29
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你们刚去的时候,到底怎么痛苦了?怎么蜕变了?不理解.

cgd007 : 2007-07-22#30
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常见网友们为出国值不值,回流该不该争持不下,我曾简单地说一句:既来之,则安之。其实去留之间的选择用事实表明态度最为直截了当,是去是留,你的行动就是最好的答案。虽然在做出决定的时候会有一番痛苦的抉择,一旦决定做出就如同发出的箭,只有前进之途,决无后退之理。如果箭已出,却又改变主意,那也没关系,杀个回马枪也未尝不可。总之,选择是艰难的,行动则必须果敢坚定。最忌讳那种前怕狼后怕虎,出来总念叨往昔的好日子,回去又放不下今天的新诱惑。
客观地说,如果你在国内有份很好的事业或工作,特别是在什么级别以上的干部,那你可得考虑清楚,非到退休或避难的地步,最好还是在国内将革命进行到底,千万别出来受洋罪。
如果在国内怀才不遇,想换个环境,求个发展,做好吃大苦受磨难的准备,破斧沉舟地搏一把,也没什么大不了,别人能吃你能吃,别人能扛你能扛,不是说:“一年大苦,二年小苦,三年不苦”吗?虽然没有那么准确,但也说明苦尽甘来的道理,在国外,一分耕耘一分收获,这就是为什么许多精英豪杰乐在异国他乡闯荡的缘由。
可以说,能出国的人不是精英也是人材,不是英雄也是好汉。譬如一个国家是一口井,出那个国起码可以看到另一重天地,哪怕落到另一个井里也是过别样的生活,人生多了一重经历必将多些感受也能更全面地体验生命的价值和意义。在另一个国度生活,语言文化不同,风俗习惯不同,举目无亲,没有根基,想要扎根,寻求发展,确实困难重重,不仅要经受肉体上的磨难,还要经历思想上的洗礼,但这般撕裂的生活既然是我们自己的选择,也就实在怨不得别人,能忍且忍,不能忍也得忍,实在忍不下去只有回国。关键是,回国后你能否找到原先的感觉,跟得上国内形势发展的需要吗?最难堪的就是:在国外总觉得虎落平阳;回国后又感叹龙搁浅滩。
海归回流率有多大,什么样的人在去留之间无所适从?让我们来看看下面的报道和分析。2006年9月,中国人才研究会指出:海归率还是低,中国面临人才泡沫化。据中国人才研究会副会长王通讯粗略估算:20多年来中国到海外留学人员总数达93万,而归国创业的只有23万。这只是官方的报道,其中提到的海归率可能基本上为公派,不回国实在有愧于良心。那些砸掉国内工作饭碗自费出国的移民,海归的可能性应该比公派的少很多,试想自己了断国内的退路,不混出个名堂又有何脸面见江东父老?而混出名堂后好马又怎么会去吃回头草?即使回去找到暂时心仪的工作,不少人因为事业、家庭和孩子的缘由最终又出国定居。至于那些以难民身份和冒着生命危险偷渡来国外的移民肯定不会回流,应该说他们呆在国外的艰难和辛酸程度比起正常的移民不知要痛苦多少倍。
选择在中国还是外国定居时总是犹豫徘徊的人大体上有两类,一类是在中国和外国都有生意的投资移民,他们经常在空中飞来飞去,因为家多业大钱撑腰,在那里居住都春风得意;另一类是实行一家两治,既不愿放弃国内薪金优厚的工作,也想享受国外子女教育优惠等福利,并且为自己的未来留条后路,这类人多数是将妻儿放在国外而自己在国内打拼。若算起来,这两类人应该是海归和回流人员的主力军。
与那些早期移民相比,我们现在的境况和待遇真是幸运。1858年,随着加拿大不列颠哥伦比亚省发现金矿的消息传开,一些为生活所迫的中国人前来淘金,淘金需要冒险、机遇和运气,因此早期的中国移民数量并不多。不久后,加拿大政府一项庞大工程――太平洋铁路的开工,终于掀起了中国移民的热潮。在中介公司的操作下,1881―1884年,1万多名华工来到了加拿大。据说,参加筑路的1.57万名华工中,最终有4000多人客死他乡。面对华工艰苦卓绝的贡献,连加拿大首任总理麦克唐纳都感慨道:“没有中国工人,就没有太平洋铁路”。当这条号称“加拿大动脉”的铁路完工时,加拿大舆论一致认为,每一段路轨,都有华工的血泪和白骨!
自二十世纪六十年代以来,加拿大开始加强引进具有较高学历和工作技能的移民,由此导致具有高等教育学历的新移民源源不断进入加拿大。新一代移民已改变”落叶归根”的传统观念,转而追求”落地生根”,既然决定成为这片土地不可分割的一部分,就应该如水般融入这块土地,滋润这方养育我们的土地,因为这里将是我们为之奋斗的国度,也是子孙后代的故乡,是他们成长生活的地方。
总体上看,加拿大是一个拥有比较完善的教育及社会福利制度的国家,曾连续7年,被联合国评选为世界上最适于居住的国家。加拿大的移民政策又相对宽松且灵活,她的多元文化政策也得到世界各国的认可,尤其移民的权力在宪法中得到充分体现和保障。
俗话说:人挪活,树挪死。移民的初衷是寻求一种崭新美好的生活,但现实与理想总会有差距,再者,实现或接近理想也要有一个奋斗的过程。移到一个新的国度,等于一切从零开始,没有吃苦耐劳的思想准备和接受困难挑战的勇气是注定要大失所望。
比起那些被歧视受压迫赤手空拳开辟新天地的早期移民,现在的移民实在没什么可抱怨,其一,在国内的生活还不到贫困潦倒的地步;其二,在这里的生存也不是水深火热的程度。如果不能适应加国的生活,回国努力也可踏上小康之路;如果最终还是决定留在加国,那么就说明经过体验,感到加拿大还是一个适于生存和发展的现代化国家。
想想我们为什么背井离乡?不就是为了寻找一种自由、民主、博爱、丰富,有着美好前景的生活?既然我们想要自己的后代生活在宽松民主的环境,在这块土地生根、发芽、开花、结果,成为这块土地真正的主人,就让我们做那土壤必需的水,把自己献给土壤的水,也必将从土壤中获取永不枯竭的源泉。
有人说:第一代移民是劳力又劳心。此话一点不假。移民的过程是一个蜕变的过程,也是一个涅磐的过程,如果不能升华,那么就只有堕落。但是,哪怕堕落,也该像瀑布一样堕落,在“堕落”的同时也奉献出自己的微薄之力,而“堕落”的结果也许就闯出另一方新天地。
一代人的付出是远远不够的,需要几代甚至十几代人持之以恒地努力去实现我们移民想要实现的梦想。
说到底,移民加国到底值不值?这是个仁者见仁,智者见智的问题,答案就是你的去留选项。

西部羊仔 : 2007-07-22#31
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007准备到温来混了?

shine : 2007-07-22#32
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沙发!

cgd007 : 2007-07-23#33
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007准备到温来混了?
争取混个脸熟!

有事您说话 : 2007-07-24#34
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先把我认住

啊 对不起 照片帖的是背对折的:wdb23:

斯巴达克斯 : 2007-07-24#35
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值不值要看每个人的情况!

海那边 : 2007-07-25#36
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六月动心想移民,七月开始行动。对移民生活的一切都仅限于家园上的了解,苦不苦值不值我暂不想考虑太多,只为了一个明确的目标,就是:

我喜欢国外不功利,人性化,有人权的生活。

carrie0718 : 2007-07-27#37
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適者生存

binbinbin : 2007-07-30#38
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值不值每个人可能想法不一样.
不过,既来之,则安之倒是值得发扬.

★阿昌★ : 2007-08-08#39
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好文章值呀,分析明了,楼主辛苦了。

mtvmtv3721 : 2010-06-14#40
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