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郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/255600/

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#1
我老公3月初递交了上诉材料,然后一直在等调解/开庭排期。今早老公告诉我接到了相关部门的电话,说我们的材料table of contents不合格,要退给我们重新准备,过几天会给我们一封信。电话里也没讲清楚到底怎么不合格,让我们看CIC网站上的说明,我找了半天也没找着哪里有说明这个table of contents到底要怎么弄,我们自己感觉材料目录挺清楚的,不至于让人看不明白啊。:wdb2:
郁闷啊!!重新整理材料再交,最快也要将近三个月才能得到回复,到时候还不知情况会如何,能不能排期。看来这次上诉到明年能有消息就不错了。:wdb7:我还没看到其他上诉的同学遇到这种事的,现在只有等收到信再看怎么办了。:wdb22::wdb22:
请了解相关规定的人士指点一二,谢谢了!

shufu : 2009-05-21#2
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怎么这么烦人啊, CIC?!

没有经验,但先帮priscilla顶起。

不哭不哭 ---

quickly : 2009-05-21#3
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请问,上诉一定要请律师吗?

Summer_Guo1982 : 2009-05-21#4
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帮顶...

面试时遇到一夫妻,她老公说他们是07年递的,一直到现在才安排面试,中间他们也没查过,也不管了,不过看他们还是蛮开心的,有时不要去想这些事,该怎么着就怎么着,日子过的很快的,也会开心起来的,最后肯定能团聚的:wdb9::wdb9:

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#5
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谢谢朋友们!无以为报,给各位加分分了。
我从准备材料到申请再到上诉已经两年了,早已进入麻木状态,只想快点有个结果,不管胜或败。一家人就这么长期分着,不能拥有正常的家庭生活,这才是最让人烦恼的。等几个月等来这么一个消息,无话可说简直。

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#6
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请问,上诉一定要请律师吗?
不一定,没规定,根据自己需要决定是否请律师

palmer : 2009-05-21#7
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唉 路漫漫其修远兮

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#8
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谢谢,palmer

joeeqin : 2009-05-21#9
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爱情的路啊,真漫长

mugua2009 : 2009-05-21#10
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谢谢朋友们!无以为报,给各位加分分了。
我从准备材料到申请再到上诉已经两年了,早已进入麻木状态,只想快点有个结果,不管胜或败。一家人就这么长期分着,不能拥有正常的家庭生活,这才是最让人烦恼的。等几个月等来这么一个消息,无话可说简直。


唉,都这么久了,干脆入完籍回来和你一起等好了

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#11
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唉,都这么久了,干脆入完籍回来和你一起等好了
我老公是公民,由于回来不好找工作,才只好这么分着

new_mic : 2009-05-21#12
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请问,上诉一定要请律师吗?

进入法律程序后,没有律师很难赢。

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#13
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进入法律程序后,没有律师很难赢。
是啊,所以我老公还在努力找好律师。

关于table of contents的内容,在IRB的网站上找到了,而不是CIC。那些说明和文件非常繁杂。

花飘雨 : 2009-05-21#14
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priscilla,打起精神来,我们一定会团聚的!

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#15
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priscilla,打起精神来,我们一定会团聚的!
谢谢!!:wdb19:一起加油!:wdb9:

桃乐丝 : 2009-05-21#16
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哎,加油!努力!
抱抱,继续加油!

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#17
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谢谢桃乐丝!

不知上诉的同学们在申请时交的所有证据是否都被使馆转发给了上诉部,我们只有极少的表格被转过去了,这样IAD就没机会看到主要证据,显然对上诉人不利。难道上诉部只看新证据?

mayleegz : 2009-05-21#18
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不要放弃,加油啊!抱抱!

EvaSullivan : 2009-05-21#19
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谢谢朋友们!无以为报,给各位加分分了。
我从准备材料到申请再到上诉已经两年了,早已进入麻木状态,只想快点有个结果,不管胜或败。一家人就这么长期分着,不能拥有正常的家庭生活,这才是最让人烦恼的。等几个月等来这么一个消息,无话可说简直。

亲:坚强些!我不懂这些,不能为你分担些什么,只能在这抱抱你!

Priscilla : 2009-05-21#20
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谢谢mayleegz,谢谢韵然,我虽郁闷但不至于伤心或怎么样,昨天一直在找相关规定看,寻求解决的办法。有大家的鼓励,很安慰!

小魔女莫尼卡 : 2009-05-22#21
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唉 Priscilla姐姐
抱抱啊~虽然我不知道你的这个情况要怎么办
但是我会真心的祝福你。
你们两个人真是太不容易了
加油吧姐姐,相信你离团聚不会遥远了

Priscilla : 2009-05-22#22
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亲爱的莫尼卡,谢谢你的祝福!我也同样真心地祝福你和每一位善良热心的朋友!
我老公今天收到信了,他说信的内容跟之前收到的一样,可能是要求把所有材料按统一的页码编排(我们交上去的是一本一本单独排页码的),他去咨询律师了,到底要怎么弄才合格。

innayin : 2009-05-22#23
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祝Priscilla 早日团聚。

MMM1017 : 2009-05-22#24
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请问,上诉一定要请律师吗?


上诉也是在加拿大打官司,只要你爱人能英语,就绝对不要请律师,最起码要一千多加元,话说过来,不是在乎钱,因为在庭上,他不会帮你辩任何一个问题,就是你爱人给他的上诉材料滩在桌上,证明是你爱人提供的,尽此而已!关键在加的一方,回答得流利,还有一点,就是态度很重要,要给移民官员知道,我们不管碰到什么困难,也一定要团聚!本人是过来人,上诉成功例子很多,这对你要请律师我提点见证!

Priscilla : 2009-05-23#25
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很感谢回帖的各位朋友!谢谢MMM1017的建议!

珍爱无罪 : 2009-05-23#26
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谢谢朋友们!无以为报,给各位加分分了。
我从准备材料到申请再到上诉已经两年了,早已进入麻木状态,只想快点有个结果,不管胜或败。一家人就这么长期分着,不能拥有正常的家庭生活,这才是最让人烦恼的。等几个月等来这么一个消息,无话可说简直。
Priscilla,是武汉的JJ吧,我也是在武汉生活了20年呢。很能体会你现在的分居两地的滋味,有段时间,我和老公就是不停的别扭,其实什么事情都没有,就是两地分居心里烦,影响到两个人说话的语气。我想时间是你们爱情和感情最好的证明,肯定会上诉通过的。:wdb9::wdb9:

Priscilla : 2009-05-23#27
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Priscilla,是武汉的JJ吧,我也是在武汉生活了20年呢。很能体会你现在的分居两地的滋味,有段时间,我和老公就是不停的别扭,其实什么事情都没有,就是两地分居心里烦,影响到两个人说话的语气。我想时间是你们爱情和感情最好的证明,肯定会上诉通过的。:wdb9::wdb9:
谢谢珍爱,你说得对,时间能证明很多原本就真实的东西,也能让相爱的人在共同经历考验之后更加懂得珍惜:wdb19:

cheryl : 2009-05-23#28
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亲爱的Priscilla
我想你最好还是请一下移民顾问吧 这样对填表和以后要是有什么任何问题都有点帮助!亲...

Priscilla : 2009-05-23#29
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亲爱的Priscilla
我想你最好还是请一下移民顾问吧 这样对填表和以后要是有什么任何问题都有点帮助!亲...
亲爱的cheryl,好久不见了,你好吗?我老公同时在咨询律师和移民顾问,争取再交上去的材料不会有问题

情比金坚 : 2009-05-23#30
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Priscilla,你们没请律师吗?材料是自己整理的?不解怎么会这样?是哪里不合格

呢?

我们也在上诉中,找加的律师办的(因为我们不想分开,老公想等到差不多开庭时

再回去)问过律师,他说上诉申请信寄出后,加会让香港这边寄材料过去,大概4个

月后,会让我们寄过去,你有经验吗?希望可以交流,我的MSN是

<grandy.kam@hotmail.com>

祝顺利!

Priscilla : 2009-05-23#31
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Priscilla,你们没请律师吗?材料是自己整理的?不解怎么会这样?是哪里不合格呢?

我们也在上诉中,找加的律师办的(因为我们不想分开,老公想等到差不多开庭时再回去)问过律师,他说上诉申请信寄出后,加会让香港这边寄材料过去,大概4个月后,会让我们寄过去,你有经验吗?希望可以交流,我的MSN是<grandy.kam@hotmail.com>

祝顺利!
你好,我们没找到好律师,所有材料都是自己整理的,上诉部的意思是材料编号、页码等不合规定,就他们寄来的信以及目前多方咨询的结果来看好像是要求所有材料装订成一本,编上统一的页码。
我是北京这边审理的,不知香港那边上诉程序有何不同,应该大同小异吧,寄出上诉申请信后120天内上诉人会收到返还的审理记录,可以根据它来准备各种证据。稍后加你MSN,多交流~

情比金坚 : 2009-05-23#32
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Priscilla,我听说但不确定,整理材料的规格不在CIC网站,在"移民难民委员会"的

网站,"蓝枫"网上有连接,你可以去看看.

祝好

Priscilla : 2009-05-24#33
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情比金坚,谢谢你!我们已经在IRB网站上找到相关文件了:)

beinglove : 2009-05-24#34
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祝福Priscilla,衷心祝愿从此顺顺利利,早日团聚!:wdb10::wdb9::wdb9::wdb9::wdb9::wdb9::wdb9::wdb9::wdb9:

Priscilla : 2009-05-24#35
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朋友们的关心让我很感动!非常感谢!!

西子姑娘 : 2009-05-25#36
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材料的格式规范是很重要的!
我们当初开庭开了2次就是因为这个原因!第一次开庭,移民局的律师提出我们的证据没有按照规范编写目录和顺序页码,不符合规范开庭时就不能作为呈堂证供,“法官” (IAD的官员)建议休庭等下次我们重新整好了材料再开庭。从调解到开庭等了快一年,老公面临一个很难做的抉择,是继续等待下次开庭, 还是不管那些要求当场开庭。最后他听从了那个“法官” 的建议,选择下次再开庭。因为如果当场继续开庭,很多材料就不能被采纳为证据,官司的赢面就小了很多。
楼主,上诉是比申请更艰难的过程,网站再复杂,为了以后团聚的甜蜜生活,什么辛苦都是值得的!

Priscilla : 2009-05-25#37
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多谢西子姑娘指点!加声望了!我们正在重新整理

月如霜 : 2009-05-25#38
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是啊,所以我老公还在努力找好律师。

关于table of contents的内容,在IRB的网站上找到了,而不是CIC。那些说明和文件非常繁杂。

请问有链接吗?唉,团聚如此艰难。

等了那么久,居然是这个结果。心情好不容易调整过来。

材料的格式规范是很重要的!
我们当初开庭开了2次就是因为这个原因!第一次开庭,移民局的律师提出我们的证据没有按照规范编写目录和顺序页码,不符合规范开庭时就不能作为呈堂证供,“法官” (IAD的官员)建议休庭等下次我们重新整好了材料再开庭。

为了以后团聚的甜蜜生活,什么辛苦都是值得的

还好看到这个贴子,否则我和老公又要吃大意的亏了。谢谢priscilla和西子姑娘。

但谁有网站链接我们好认真看看?

cheryl : 2009-05-25#39
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加油哦!

Priscilla : 2009-05-25#40
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请问有链接吗?唉,团聚如此艰难。

等了那么久,居然是这个结果。心情好不容易调整过来。

还好看到这个贴子,否则我和老公又要吃大意的亏了。谢谢priscilla和西子姑娘。

但谁有网站链接我们好认真看看?
是啊,团聚不容易!不知怎么回事,我收藏的那几个文件的网页,今天一个也打不开了,上IRB网站去找,居然找不到了,昏S。。。。。
一找到我就会发上来哦!
你可以先看看这个链接:http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/Eng/Pages/index.aspx

花飘雨 : 2009-05-25#41
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我们是请了律师,已经不是上次递表时的那位了,
心都悬着就怕出什么错

Priscilla : 2009-05-25#42
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我们是请了律师,已经不是上次递表时的那位了,心都悬着就怕出什么错
案子不一样,焦虑是一样的,最后胜利也是一定的:wdb9:

cheryl : 2009-05-25#43
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看到Priscilla 和花飘雨 会有点找到组织的感觉!我们的那班同学!

Priscilla : 2009-05-25#44
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看到Priscilla 和花飘雨 会有点找到组织的感觉!我们的那班同学!
cheryl,我看到你也有同感!咱班不少都很曲折啊,坚持到现在都好久了!

mayleegz : 2009-05-25#45
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Priscilla,我毕业啦!
你要坚持啊!只要是真的,就什么都不要怕!坚持就是胜利啊!

Priscilla : 2009-05-25#46
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mayleegz,真为你高兴!!坚持就是胜利!!!

月如霜 : 2009-05-26#47
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是啊,团聚不容易!不知怎么回事,我收藏的那几个文件的网页,今天一个也打不开了,上IRB网站去找,居然找不到了,昏S。。。。。
一找到我就会发上来哦!
你可以先看看这个链接:http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/Eng/Pages/index.aspx

谢谢priscilla. 我这里也是网络有问题。网站都打不开。麻烦你找到了告知一下。
我们也是刚递表上诉,很多不懂。

:wdb7::wdb7::wdb7:

Priscilla : 2009-05-26#48
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谢谢priscilla. 我这里也是网络有问题。网站都打不开。麻烦你找到了告知一下。
我们也是刚递表上诉,很多不懂。

:wdb7::wdb7::wdb7:
不哭不哭,抱抱……

Priscilla : 2009-05-26#49
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几个网址供参考:

INFORMATION GUIDE
GENERAL PROCEDURES FOR ALL APPEALS
TO THE IMMIGRATION APPEAL DIVISION (IAD)
http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/eng/brdcom/references/procedures/proc/iadsai/info/Pages/index.aspx

Immigration Appeals
http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/eng/port/immigrationapp/cladem/pages/index.aspx

http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/eng/media/info/Pages/iadfacts.aspx

WEIGHING EVIDENCE
http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/eng/brdcom/references/legjur/alltous/weiapp/Pages/index.aspx

fengjiuxuan : 2009-05-26#50
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进来抱抱Priscilla,团聚征途真是艰难啊,为你祝福

Priscilla : 2009-05-26#51
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

进来抱抱Priscilla,团聚征途真是艰难啊,为你祝福
轩轩,好久没见,收到你的祝福很:wdb6:,谢谢!!

fengjiuxuan : 2009-05-26#52
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

如果祝福能实现那才真的开心。

沐连 : 2009-05-27#53
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

抱抱~~~我上次期排也要等几个月的.
当时新证明就是我怀孕了,但也败诉了.
要不是老公回来不好找工作,拖我也不去~~~
女儿现在1岁,如果再被移民局认为我们是假的,心也淡了,人也麻木了..
老公铁下心回来了...

Priscilla : 2009-05-27#54
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

如果祝福能实现那才真的开心。
没有最:wdb6:,只有更:wdb6:

Priscilla : 2009-05-27#55
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

抱抱~~~我上次期排也要等几个月的.
当时新证明就是我怀孕了,但也败诉了.
要不是老公回来不好找工作,拖我也不去~~~
女儿现在1岁,如果再被移民局认为我们是假的,心也淡了,人也麻木了..
老公铁下心回来了...
沐连,你的经历也这么曲折:wdb7:
你老公下定决心回来的话,也是一件好事!团聚自己作主!:wdb20:可以等宝宝稍大一点再申请吧(如果有必要的话),国内亲人多还能帮帮你,宝宝也能多享受亲情氛围

月如霜 : 2009-05-27#56
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

抱抱~~~我上次期排也要等几个月的.
当时新证明就是我怀孕了,但也败诉了.
要不是老公回来不好找工作,拖我也不去~~~
女儿现在1岁,如果再被移民局认为我们是假的,心也淡了,人也麻木了..
老公铁下心回来了...

怎么会这样呢:wdb18:

沐连 : 2009-05-27#57
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

沐连,你的经历也这么曲折:wdb7:
你老公下定决心回来的话,也是一件好事!团聚自己作主!:wdb20:可以等宝宝稍大一点再申请吧(如果有必要的话),国内亲人多还能帮帮你,宝宝也能多享受亲情氛围
是啊,我也这么想,反正心也淡了...现在就是老公欠一个给自己回国的理由.
已经和老公分开3年了,现在习惯了没老公的日子,宝宝习惯没爸爸的日子..这不是我想的.
虽然败诉了,律师还收了2000元加币的费用..

Priscilla : 2009-05-27#58
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

是啊,我也这么想,反正心也淡了...现在就是老公欠一个给自己回国的理由.
已经和老公分开3年了,现在习惯了没老公的日子,宝宝习惯没爸爸的日子..这不是我想的.
虽然败诉了,律师还收了2000元加币的费用..
谁不想一家人和和美美在一起啊,那一天会到来的!
能说说上诉为什么没通过吗?那些西人看问题有时真不好理解

Priscilla : 2009-05-27#59
IAD收到上诉申请后的回信

上传几张扫描的图片供参考

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Priscilla : 2009-05-27#60
上诉部及CIC官网上的一些文件、解释和说明

想保存此内容的可直接下载附件“官方网页.doc”。

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Immigration Appeal Division

What We Do

The Immigration Appeal Division ([FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT]) hears and decides appeals on immigration matters such as appeals from refused sponsorship applications and from removal orders. More
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Home > Tribunal > Immigration Appeal Division > Alternate Dispute Resolution
IAD.08a Addendum - Marriage/Partner
October 2006
APPELLANTS' GUIDE
TO ALTERNATIVE DISPUTE RESOLUTION ([FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT]) CONFERENCE RE:
SPONSORSHIP APPEALS


ADDENDUM ? Marriage, Common-law or Conjugal Partner Cases
What kind of documents should I provide as disclosure before the [FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT] Conference?

In this kind of case, one of the reasons for refusal of your sponsorship may be that the Citizenship and Immigration Canada ([FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT]) officer did not believe you have a genuine marriage, or a genuine common-law or conjugal partner relationship, and that you entered into this relationship primarily for immigration purposes.
At a hearing or an [FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT] Conference, you should try to show:

  • how you met your spouse or partner and how your relationship developed;
  • how long you have known your spouse or partner;
  • the circumstances of your marriage or common-law/conjugal relationship, including the knowledge and involvement of your families;
  • what you did after you got married or started your conjugal relationship, including what contact you have had with your spouse or partner;
  • what you know about each other;
  • what you plan for your future together; and
  • any other information that may help your appeal.
You should come prepared to deal with all of the reasons the [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] officer gave for refusing your spouse’s or partner’s application.
Some of the important documents that would be useful to bring to a hearing or an [FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT] Conference would be evidence such as letters, telephone bills, photographs, videocassettes, airline tickets, passports, receipts for gifts or money sent by either spouse or partner, etc. If the written information or documents that you want to use were not already provided to the Immigration Appeal Division or Minister’s counsel, then you must provide it no later than 10 days before the [FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT] Conference.
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Immigration Appeal Division Rules

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http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/eng/brdcom/references/procedures/proc/iadsai/info/Pages/index.aspx

INFORMATION GUIDE ―
GENERAL PROCEDURES FOR ALL APPEALS
TO THE IMMIGRATION APPEAL DIVISION ([FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT])


(under the [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act[/FONT],
effective June 28, 2002)
The questions and answers below are to help you prepare for your appeal hearing. The following general information should not be taken as legal advice.
1. INTRODUCTION

[FONT=宋体]Where will my appeal hearing take place?[/FONT]
Your appeal hearing will take place at the Immigration and Refugee Board ([FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT]). The [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT] is an independent tribunal. It is not part of the Immigration department, also known as Citizenship and Immigration Canada ([FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT]), and it is not part of the Canada Border Services Agency ([FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]).
[FONT=宋体]Who will decide my appeal?[/FONT]
A Member of the Immigration Appeal Division ([FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT]) of the [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT] will decide your appeal.
[FONT=宋体]Who will be at my appeal hearing?[/FONT]
The [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member, who will decide your appeal, will be seated at the front of the hearing room. You (the appellant) will be there with or without your counsel, depending on whether you chose to have someone represent you. There will also be a Minister's counsel from the Canada Border Services Agency ([FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]) who may provide evidence, ask questions to you and other witnesses, and make arguments against your appeal. Any witnesses that you or the Minister's counsel bring to testify (give oral evidence) will also be at the hearing. An interpreter will be there for you or any of your witnesses, if you have asked for one. Members of the public are also allowed to attend.
[FONT=宋体]Do I need someone to represent me in my appeal?[/FONT]
You do not have to have someone represent you, but you may if you think that this will help your appeal. There are often legal questions that need to be argued in the appeal and you need to make sure that your case is well supported by providing enough evidence. You should also know that the Minister's counsel will be at your hearing to question you and other witnesses, and make arguments against your appeal. If you have someone to represent you, such as a lawyer or a consultant, friend, relative, or trusted member of your community, that person must be available and prepared on the date of the appeal hearing.
Under a regulation in effect on April 13, 2004, if you choose to retain counsel who charges a fee, the counsel must be a member in good standing of either a provincial law society, the Chambre des notaires du Québec, or the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants ([FONT=宋体]CSIC[/FONT]).
[FONT=宋体]How will I know when my appeal hearing will take place?[/FONT]
You will receive a notice from the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] to appear for the scheduling conference (Assignment Court). You and your counsel, if you have one, must be there on the date and at the time stated in this notice to appear. At that time an [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will ask questions, to make sure that your case is ready to be scheduled. If the Member is satisfied that your appeal is ready to be scheduled, you will be given the date and time for your appeal hearing.
[FONT=宋体]What will happen if my counsel and I cannot appear on the appeal hearing date?[/FONT]
When an appeal hearing date is set, you must be ready for the hearing on that date. If you can not appear on that day, you may make an application in writing to change the date or time of your hearing - but an [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will allow your application and make a change only if there are very good reasons. This is also called a postponement or an adjournment.
You must provide a copy of your application to the Minister's counsel. You must also provide your application to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office, together with a statement of how and when you provided the copy to the Minister's counsel. The addresses for the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] offices are in the letters or other notices that the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] sends to you after you have made your appeal.
In your application (which may be written like a letter), you must:

  • explain why you want to change the date or time of your hearing;
  • say whether the Minister's counsel agrees to your request; and
  • give at least six new dates on which you are available for your hearing. These six dates must be within a time period specified by the [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] ― therefore, you should first contact the [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] registry office to find out which weeks or months the [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] has available for hearings.
The date or time of your hearing will be changed only for a very good reason. If you do not receive a decision from the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] on your application to change the date or time of the hearing, or if the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] refuses your application, you must appear on the scheduled hearing date and be prepared for your appeal hearing. If you do not appear, your appeal may be dismissed.
If the Minister's counsel or the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office receives your application two working days or less before the scheduled hearing date, you must appear at your scheduled hearing. At that time, you may ask for a change in the date or time of your hearing but you should be prepared to go ahead that day if your application is denied.
2. PREPARING FOR YOUR APPEAL

[FONT=宋体]What must I show to win my appeal?[/FONT]
To win your appeal, you must show that the decision made by Citizenship and Immigration Canada ([FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT]) or the Canada Border Services Agency ([FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]) or by the Immigration Division ([FONT=宋体]ID[/FONT]) is wrong in law or wrong in fact. Also, in some cases, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member may be able to consider humanitarian and compassionate reasons to allow your appeal even if the [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] or [FONT=宋体]ID[/FONT] decision was correct in law and fact. It is your responsibility to show that your appeal should be allowed and not dismissed.
[FONT=宋体]Do I have to provide any documents for my hearing?[/FONT]
Documentary evidence can be very important in helping you win your appeal. To show that the [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] or [FONT=宋体]ID[/FONT] decision was wrong, or in some cases, that there are sufficient humanitarian and compassionate reasons, you may need to provide documents to be used at your hearing.
If you would like to provide documents, you must make two copies of each document (including any photographs or videocassettes). You must provide one copy to the Minister's counsel. You must also provide one copy to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office, together with a statement of how and when you provided the documents to the Minister's counsel. The addresses of the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] offices are in the letters or other notices that the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] sends to you after you have filed your appeal. The documents must be received no later than [FONT=宋体]20 days[/FONT] before the hearing.
Before your hearing, the Minister's counsel will have provided you and the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] with the appeal record. These are the documents in the [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] or [FONT=宋体]ID[/FONT] file that are related to your appeal. The Minister's counsel may also provide other documents for the hearing, no later than [FONT=宋体]20 days[/FONT] before the hearing. You have a chance to provide documents in response to the documents from the Minister's counsel ? these documents must be received no later than [FONT=宋体]10 days[/FONT] before the hearing. This exchange of documents is called "disclosure." If you or the Minister's counsel do not disclose documents properly, then those documents cannot be used at the hearing unless the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member allows this to be done.
If your documents are not in English or French, they must be translated. The translations and a translator's declaration must be provided together with the copies of the documents to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and to the Minister's counsel. The translator's declaration must include:

  • the translator's name,
  • the language translated and
  • a statement signed by the translator that the translation is accurate.
Even if you have provided copies of your documents before the hearing, you should bring the original documents to the hearing if you have them.
[FONT=宋体]Can I bring witnesses?[/FONT]
You may bring witnesses to your hearing if you think this will help your appeal. Witnesses must be prepared to answer questions at your hearing (this is called testifying or giving testimony).
No later than [FONT=宋体]20 days[/FONT] before the hearing, you must provide certain information regarding your witness to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and the Minister's counsel. In writing, you must:

  • state the witness's contact information (address, and telephone and fax numbers),
  • how long the testimony will take,
  • your relationship to the witness, and
  • whether you want the witness to testify in person, by videoconference or by telephone.
If the witness is an expert, you must also include a report signed by the expert giving their qualifications and summarizing their evidence.
If you do not properly provided the witness information, the witness will not be able to testify unless the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member allows the witness to testify.
It is your responsibility to make sure your witness or witnesses appear at your appeal hearing. To make sure that your witness will appear, you may ask the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office for a summons, which is an [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] order to appear at the hearing that the witness must obey. There are special rules for providing a summons to a witness, along with witness fees and travel expenses - for further information, contact the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office.
[FONT=宋体]What if I need an interpreter?[/FONT]
If you or any of your witnesses need an interpreter, you must notify the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office either in writing no later than [FONT=宋体]20 days[/FONT] before your appeal hearing, or in person at the scheduling conference (Assignment Court). You must indicate the language and dialect (if any) that you or your witness needs. The [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] will provide an interpreter for your hearing at no cost to you.
[FONT=宋体]What if my witness is not in Canada?[/FONT]
If your witness is in another country, you may ask the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member to allow that witness to testify at your appeal hearing by telephone. You must tell the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] before the appeal hearing, and you must make sure that your witness can be reached by telephone at the time of your hearing. Since you must pay for the call, you must bring a calling card from your telephone company that you can use to charge the call to a telephone number, or bring long distance phone cards. Note that the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] will not allow you to use any phone card with less than two hours' international calling time available. Also, some companies' calling cards may not work very well, and if there are problems, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member might decide to go ahead without hearing from your witness.
3. YOUR APPEAL HEARING

[FONT=宋体]What will happen at my appeal hearing?[/FONT]

  1. [FONT=&quot]You will testify[/FONT]
If you have counsel, your counsel will begin by asking you questions so that you can give evidence related to your appeal. Before testifying, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will ask witnesses to affirm (that is, solemnly promise) that they will tell the truth. Witnesses who want to swear an oath to tell the truth should bring their own holy book. If you do not have counsel, you may tell the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member what you think is important or you may ask the Member to ask you questions that the Member thinks are needed to decide your appeal. The Minister's counsel will also question you on the evidence you have given at the hearing because the Minister's counsel is there to argue against your appeal.

  1. [FONT=&quot]Witnesses will testify[/FONT]
After your testimony, any witnesses you have will testify. This may include your relative testifying by telephone from another country. Any witness you bring to the hearing will usually be asked to stay in the waiting room and not join the hearing until after you have testified. The witness then will be called to answer questions. Your counsel may question the witness or, if you do not have counsel, you may question the witness or ask the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member to do so. The Minister's counsel will also be able to question the witness and can also bring witnesses to testify. You have the right to question any witnesses brought by the Minister's counsel.

  1. [FONT=&quot]Arguments will be made[/FONT]
After you and the witness or witnesses have testified, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will ask you or your counsel to make the arguments or submissions in your case (explain why you think the evidence shows that the Member should allow the appeal). The Minister's counsel will also be asked whether he or she thinks you have proven your case. You will then be asked to respond to the submission of the Minister's counsel.
[FONT=宋体]When will I know the decision in my appeal?[/FONT]
The [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member may be able to decide your appeal and give reasons for the decision at the end of the hearing. If not, the Member will tell you that the decision and reasons will be sent to you by mail at a later date, usually no later than 90 days after the hearing.
4. MORE INFORMATION

If you would like more information, you may use the [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT]'s Internet Web site at www.irb-cisr.gc.ca or you may visit the [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT]'s Documentation Centre at our offices. There you will find the following information:

  1. IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE BOARD OF CANADA: AN OVERVIEW
This document provides basic information on the [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT], including the types of appeals heard at the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and the appeal process.

  1. SPONSORSHIP APPEALS
This paper describes how different types of sponsorship appeals are decided. Note that this paper has not yet been updated with information and changes from the new [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act [/FONT]that became effective on June 28, 2002.

  1. REMOVAL ORDER APPEALS
This paper describes how different types of removal order appeals are decided. Note that this paper has not yet been updated with information and changes from the new [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act [/FONT]that became effective on June 28, 2002.

  1. REFLEX
This is a publication of summaries of selected recent immigration and refugee law decisions since May 1991.

  1. [FONT=&quot]IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE PROTECTION ACT[/FONT] and the former [FONT=&quot]IMMIGRATION ACT[/FONT]
In general, the new [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act[/FONT] applies to cases where you made your appeal to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] on or after June 28, 2002. In most cases, the former [FONT=宋体]Immigration Act [/FONT]still applies where you filed your notice of appeal with the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] before June 28, 2002.

  1. IMMIGRATION APPEAL DIVISION RULES and COMMENTARIES
The Commentaries provide you with details and procedures about such matters as scheduling your hearing, and changing the date and time of your hearing.
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Home > The Board > Legal and Policy References > Procedures > Processes > IAD > Information Guide
October 2002
Revised January 2005
INFORMATION GUIDE

SPONSORSHIP APPEAL HEARINGS MARRIAGE CASES

(under the [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act[/FONT])
The questions and answers below are to help you prepare for your appeal hearing. The following general information should not be taken as legal advice. Many sponsorship appeals regarding marriage first go through an Alternative Dispute Resolution ([FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT]) process. You will receive a letter about this if your appeal is chosen for this process. You will also receive a separate Appellant's Guide to [FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT] Conferences that will give you more information. In [FONT=宋体]ADR[/FONT], a dispute resolution officer (a member of the Immigration Appeal Division) will meet informally with you and the Minister's counsel to try to settle the appeal without a full hearing.
1. INTRODUCTION

Where will my appeal hearing take place?

Your appeal hearing will take place at the Immigration and Refugee Board ([FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT]). The [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT] is an independent tribunal. It is not part of the Immigration department, also known as Citizenship and Immigration Canada ([FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT]), and it is not part of the Canada Border Services Agency ([FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]).
Who will decide my appeal?

A Member of the Immigration Appeal Division ([FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT]) of the Immigration and Refugee Board ([FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT]) will decide your appeal.
Who will be at my appeal hearing?

The [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member, who will decide your appeal, will be seated at the front of the hearing room. You (the appellant) will be there with or without your counsel, depending on whether you chose to have someone represent you. There will also be a Minister's counsel from the Canada Border Services Agency ([FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]) who may provide evidence, ask questions to you and other witnesses, and make arguments against your appeal. Any witnesses that you or the Minister's counsel bring to testify (give oral evidence) will also be at the hearing. An interpreter will be there for you or any of your witnesses, if you have asked for one. Members of the public are also allowed to attend.
Do I need someone to represent me in my appeal?

You do not have to have someone represent you, but you may if you think that this will help your appeal. There are often legal questions that need to be argued in the appeal and you need to make sure that your case is well supported by providing enough evidence. You should also know that the Minister's counsel will be at your hearing to question you and other witnesses, and make arguments against your appeal. If you have someone to represent you, such as a lawyer or a consultant, friend, relative, or trusted member of your community, that person must be available and prepared on the date of the appeal hearing.
Under a regulation in effect on April 13, 2004, if you choose to retain counsel who charges a fee, the counsel must be a member in good standing of either a provincial law society, the Chambre des notaires du Québec, or the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants ([FONT=宋体]CSIC[/FONT]). The [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] cannot allow any paid counsel who is not such a member to represent you in your appeal. If your counsel is an immigration consultant, their name should be on the [FONT=宋体]CSIC[/FONT] Internet website at www.csic-scci.ca/en.
How will I know when my appeal hearing will take place?

You will receive a notice from the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] to appear for the scheduling conference (Assignment Court). You and your counsel, if you have one, must be there on the date and at the time stated in this notice to appear. At that time, an [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will ask questions, to make sure that your case is ready to be scheduled. If the Member is satisfied that your appeal is ready to be scheduled, you will be given the date and time for your appeal hearing.
What will happen if my counsel and I cannot appear on the appeal hearing date?

When an appeal hearing date is set, you must be ready for the hearing on that date. If you can not appear on that day, you may make an application in writing to change the date or time of your hearing. But you need very good reasons before an [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will allow your application and make a change. This change in date or time is also called a postponement or an adjournment.

You must provide a copy of your application to the Minister's counsel. You must also provide your application to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office, together with a statement of how and when you provided the copy to the Minister's counsel. The addresses for the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] offices are in the letters or other notices that the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] sends to you after you have made your appeal.
In your application (which may be written like a letter), you must:

  • Explain why you want to change the date or time of your hearing;
  • Say whether the Minister's counsel agrees to your request; and
  • Give at least six new dates on which you are available for your hearing. These six dates must be within a time period specified by the [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] - therefore, you should first contact the [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] registry office to find out which weeks or months the [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] has available for hearings.
The date or time of your hearing will be changed only for a very good reason. If you do not receive a decision from the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] on your application to change the date or time of the hearing, or if the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] refuses your application, you must appear on the scheduled hearing date and be prepared for your appeal hearing. If you do not appear, your appeal may be dismissed or declared to be abandoned.
If the Minister's counsel or the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office receives your application two working days or less before the scheduled hearing date, you must appear at your scheduled hearing. At that time, you may ask for a change in the date or time of your hearing but you should be prepared to go ahead that day if your application is denied.
2. PREPARING FOR YOUR APPEAL

What must I show to win my appeal?

To win your appeal, you must show that the refusal to approve your spouse's application is wrong in law or wrong in fact. That means that it is your responsibility to show that the visa officer made the wrong decision. It is your responsibility to show that your appeal should be allowed and not dismissed.
If the visa officer refused to issue a visa to your spouse because the officer believed that your marriage was not legal, then to win your appeal, you must show that it is a legal marriage in the country where you were married and in Canada. For example, you must show:

  • The marriage law in the country where your marriage took place; and
  • How you met the requirements of that law, as well as the marriage law in Canada.
If the reason for refusal was that the visa officer did not believe you had a genuine marriage, then you must show that your marriage is genuine or was not entered into primarily for the purpose of gaining any Canadian immigration status or benefit (this usually means getting permanent resident status for your spouse).
To decide this, the Member may consider evidence about:

  • How you met your spouse and how your relationship developed;
  • The circumstances of your engagement and marriage, including the knowledge and involvement of your families;
  • What you did after you got married, including the contact you have had with your spouse;
  • What you know about each other;
  • What you plan for your future together; and
  • Any other information that may help the Member decide your appeal.
There may be other reasons that the visa officer gives for refusing your spouse - the [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations[/FONT] sets out some situations where a spouse will be seen as not belonging to the family class, and therefore not be able to be sponsored to Canada (see section 117(9) of the [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations[/FONT]).
You should come prepared to deal with all of the reasons the visa officer gave for refusing your spouse's application. But the Minister's counsel or the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member may also ask you questions about anything dealing with your marriage and your relationship with your spouse.
It is important to know that for sponsorship appeals of marriage cases, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member can only decide if the refusal is legal. The Member is not allowed to consider whether there are humanitarian and compassionate reasons for allowing your appeal.
Do I have to provide any documents for my hearing?

Documentary evidence can be very important in helping you win your appeal. If one of the issues in the appeal is whether your marriage is legal, you must give evidence about the marriage laws of the country where you were married, and that your marriage was legal. This may be done by with documents from an expert (such as a lawyer or other expert who knows the marriage laws of that country). If one of the issues in your appeal is whether your marriage is genuine, then you may provide documents such as letters, telephone bills, photographs, videocassettes, airline tickets, passports, receipts for gifts or money sent by either spouse, etc.
If you would like to provide documents, you must make two copies of each document (including any photographs or videocassettes). You must provide one copy to the Minister's counsel. You must also provide one copy to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office, together with a statement of how and when you provided the documents to the Minister's counsel. The addresses of the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] offices are in the letters or other notices that the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] sends to you after you have filed your appeal. The documents must be received no later than 20 days before the hearing.
Before your hearing, the Minister's counsel will have provided you and the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] with the appeal record. These are the documents in the [FONT=宋体]CBSA[/FONT]/ [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] file that are related to your appeal. The Minister's counsel may also provide other documents for the hearing, no later than 20 days before the hearing. You have a chance to provide documents in response to the documents from the Minister's counsel - these documents must be received no later than 10 days before the hearing. This exchange of documents is called "disclosure." If you or the Minister's counsel do not disclose documents properly, then those documents cannot be used at the hearing unless the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member allows this to be done.
If your documents are not in English or French, they must be translated. The translations and a translator's declaration must be provided together with the copies of the documents to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and to the Minister's counsel. The translator's declaration must include:

  • the translator's name,
  • the language translated and
  • a statement signed by the translator that the translation is accurate.
Even if you have provided copies of your documents before the hearing, you should bring the original documents to the hearing if you have them.
Can I bring witnesses?

You may bring witnesses to your hearing if you think this will help your appeal. Witnesses must be prepared to answer questions at your hearing (this is called testifying or giving testimony).
No later than 20 days before the hearing, you must provide certain information regarding your witness to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and the Minister's counsel. In writing, you must:

  • state the witness's contact information (address, and telephone and fax numbers),
  • how long the testimony will take,
  • your relationship to the witness, and
  • whether you want the witness to testify in person, by videoconference or by telephone.
If the witness is an expert, you must also include a report signed by the expert giving their qualifications and summarizing their evidence.
If you do not properly provide the witness information, the witness will not be able to testify unless the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member allows the witness to testify.
It is your responsibility to make sure your witness or witnesses appear at your appeal hearing. To make sure that your witness will appear, you may ask the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office for a summons, which is an [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] order to appear at the hearing that the witness must obey. There are special rules for providing a summons to a witness, along with witness fees and travel expenses - for further information, contact the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office.
What if I need an interpreter?

If you or any of your witnesses need an interpreter, you must notify the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] registry office either in writing no later than 20 days before your appeal hearing, or in person at the scheduling conference (Assignment Court). You must indicate the language and dialect (if any) that you or your witness needs. The [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] will provide an interpreter for your hearing at no cost to you.
What if my witness is not in Canada?

If your spouse or any other witness is in another country, you may ask the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member to allow that witness to testify at your appeal hearing by telephone. You must tell the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] before the appeal hearing, and you must make sure that your witness can be reached by telephone at the time of your hearing. Since you must pay for the call, you must bring a calling card from your telephone company that you can use to charge the call to a telephone number, or bring a reliable long distance phone card. Note that the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] will not allow you to use any phone card with less than two hours' international calling time available. Also, some companies' calling cards may not work very well, and if there are problems, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member might decide to go ahead without hearing from your witness.
3. YOUR APPEAL HEARING

What will happen at my appeal hearing?


  1. You will testify
If you have counsel, your counsel will begin by asking you questions so that you can give evidence related to your appeal. Before testifying, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will ask witnesses to affirm (that is, solemnly promise) that they will tell the truth. Witnesses (including you as the appellant) who do not want to affirm but instead want to swear an oath to tell the truth should bring their own holy book. If you do not have counsel, you may tell the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member what you think is important or you may ask the Member to ask you questions that the Member thinks are needed to decide your appeal. The Minister's counsel will also question you on the evidence that you have given at the hearing because the Minister's counsel is there to argue against your appeal.

  1. Witnesses will testify
After your testimony, any witnesses you have will testify. This may include your spouse or relative testifying by telephone from another country. Any witness you bring to the hearing will usually be asked to stay in the waiting room and not join the hearing until after you have testified. The witness then will be called to answer questions. Your counsel may question the witness or, if you do not have counsel, you may question the witness or ask the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member to do so. The Minister's counsel will also be able to question the witness and can also bring witnesses to testify. You have the right to question any witnesses brought by the Minister's counsel.

  1. Arguments will be made
After you and the witness or witnesses have testified, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member will ask you or your counsel to make the arguments or submissions in your case (explain why you think the evidence shows that the Member should allow the appeal). The Minister's counsel will also be asked whether he or she thinks you have proven your case. You will then be asked to respond to the submission of the Minister's counsel.
[FONT=宋体]When will I know the decision in my appeal?[/FONT]
The [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] Member may be able to decide your appeal and give reasons for the decision at the end of the hearing. If not, the Member will tell you that the decision and reasons will be sent to you by mail at a later date, usually no later than 90 days after the hearing.
4. MORE INFORMATION

If you would like more information, you may use the [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT]'s Internet Web site at www.irb-cisr.gc.ca or you may visit the [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT]'s Documentation Centre at our offices. There you will find the following information:

  1. IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE BOARD OF CANADA: AN OVERVIEW
This document provides basic information on the [FONT=宋体]IRB[/FONT], including the types of appeals heard at the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] and the appeal process.

  1. SPONSORSHIP APPEALS
This paper describes how different types of sponsorship appeals are decided. Note that this paper has not yet been updated with information and changes from the new [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act [/FONT]that became effective on June 28, 2002.

  1. REMOVAL ORDER APPEALS
This paper describes how different types of removal order appeals are decided. Note that this paper has not yet been updated with information and changes from the new [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act [/FONT]that became effective on June 28, 2002.

  1. REFLEX
This is a publication of summaries of selected recent immigration and refugee law decisions since May 1991.

  1. IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE PROTECTION ACT and the former IMMIGRATION ACT
In general, the new [FONT=宋体]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act[/FONT] applies to cases where you made your appeal to the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] on or after June 28, 2002. In most cases, the former [FONT=宋体]Immigration Act [/FONT]still applies where you filed your notice of appeal with the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] before June 28, 2002.

  1. IMMIGRATION APPEAL DIVISION RULES and COMMENTARIES
The Rules and Commentaries provide you with details and procedures about such matters as scheduling your hearing, and changing the date and time of your hearing.
NOTE: You may also want to look at the CIC Web site, which has information about how CIC officers make their decisions to accept or refuse sponsorships of family class members and applications for permanent resident visas. See www.cic.gc.ca.

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Immigration Appeals

The Immigration Appeal Division ([FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT]) hears appeals on immigration matters such as appeals from refused sponsorship applications and from removal orders.
The [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] hears four types of appeal:


  • [FONT=&quot]Sponsorship[/FONT] appeal
  • Appeal from a [FONT=&quot]removal order[/FONT] issued by an officer of the Canada Border Services Agency or the [FONT=&quot]IRB[/FONT] Immigration Division
  • [FONT=&quot]Residency obligation[/FONT] appeal
  • [FONT=&quot]Minister's [/FONT]appeal of an [FONT=&quot]ID[/FONT] decision
An appeal is allowed…


  • if the decision being appealed was wrong in law or fact,
  • if there was a breach of a principle of natural justice (for example, a breach to the right to be heard or to be heard by an impartial person), or
  • in some cases, on the basis of humanitarian and compassionate considerations.
Sponsorship appeal

Who can appeal?

Canadian citizens and permanent residents whose applications to sponsor close family members to Canada have been refused by [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT].
Who cannot appeal?

Sponsorship appeals are not possible for persons who have been found inadmissible to Canada based on:

  • serious criminality punished by a sentence of two years or more of imprisonment,
  • organized criminality,
  • security grounds,
  • violations of human or international rights, or
  • misrepresentation (unless the sponsored family member is the sponsor's spouse, common-law partner or child).
If the appeal is allowed…

[FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] will resume processing the sponsorship application or it may ask the Federal Court of Canada permission to apply for judicial review of the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] decision. It is possible for [FONT=宋体]CIC[/FONT] to refuse the application on other grounds.
If the appeal is dismissed…

The sponsor may contest the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT]'s decision by asking the Federal Court of Canada permission to apply for judicial review of the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] decision.
Removal order appeal

Who can appeal?

Permanent residents, Convention refugees, protected persons and foreign nationals with a permanent resident visa who have been ordered removed from Canada.
Who cannot appeal?

None of these persons can appeal their removal order if they have been found inadmissible to Canada because of:

  • serious criminality punished by a sentence of two years or more of imprisonment,
  • organized criminality,
  • security grounds, or
  • violations of human or international rights.
The following persons also cannot appeal a removal order:

  • claimants whose refugee protection claim has been rejected, and
  • foreign nationals without a permanent resident visa.
If the appeal is allowed…

The person will be permitted to remain in Canada.
If the [FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT] stays the appeal…

The person concerned can stay in Canada under certain conditions imposed by the IAD.
If the appeal is dismissed…

The Canada Border Services Agency may remove the person from Canada.
The person may contest the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT]'s decision by asking the Federal Court of Canada permission to apply for judicial review of the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] decision.
Residency obligation appeal

Who can appeal?

Permanent residents determined by an immigration officer abroad not to have fulfilled their residency obligation.
If the appeal is allowed…

The person will not lose permanent resident status.
If the appeal is dismissed…

The person will lose permanent resident status. If the person is in Canada, the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] will issue a removal order. The person may contest the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT]'s decision by asking the Federal Court of Canada permission to apply for judicial review of the [FONT=宋体]IAD[/FONT] decision.
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WEIGHING EVIDENCE

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Immigration and Refugee Board
December 31, 2003


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MEMORANDUM

  1. INTRODUCTION
  2. GENERAL PRINCIPLES
    1. 2.1. Evidence
    2. 2.2. Relevant Provisions of the [FONT=&quot]Immigration and Refugee Protection Act[/FONT]
    3. 2.3. Credible or Trustworthy Evidence
  3. ASSESSING EVIDENCE
    1. 3.1. Before/During the Hearing:
      1. 3.1.1. Determine which party has the Burden of Proof
      2. 3.1.2. Define the issues
    2. 3.2. During the Hearing:
      1. 3.2.1. Admissibility
        1. 3.2.1.1. Relevance
        2. 3.2.1.2. Other
      2. 3.2.2. Credibility
    3. 3.3. After the Hearing of Evidence and Submissions is Complete:
      1. 3.3.1. Assess Credibility
      2. 3.3.2. Reliability
      3. 3.3.3. Apply the Standard of Proof
      4. 3.3.4. Determine the Facts that have been established by the evidence as weighed
        1. 3.3.4.1. Benefit of the Doubt before the [FONT=&quot]RPD[/FONT]
      5. 3.3.5. Identify the appropriate Standard of Proof for each legal issue
      6. 3.3.6. Apply the facts and standards of proof to the issues of the case
        1. 3.3.6.1. Presumptions
      7. 3.3.7. Render the Decision
  4. WHAT IT MEANS TO "WEIGH" EVIDENCE
  5. FACTORS TO CONSIDER IN WEIGHING EVIDENCE
    1. 5.1. General Principle
      1. 5.1.1. Some Factors That May be Considered
  6. APPLICATION TO SPECIFIC SITUATIONS
    1. 6.1. [FONT=&quot]Viva Voce[/FONT] Evidence
      1. 6.1.1. Factors to Consider:
      2. 6.1.2. Adverse Inferences from the Failure to Testify or Call Evidence
      3. 6.1.3. Compellability of Witnesses
    2. 6.2. Self-Serving Evidence
      1. 6.2.1. Factors to Consider:
    3. 6.3. Hearsay Evidence
      1. 6.3.1. Factors to Consider:
    4. 6.4. Evidence of Children
      1. 6.4.1. Factors to Consider:
    5. 6.5. Evidence of Incompetents (Persons Suffering from Mental or Emotional Disorders)
      1. 6.5.1. Factors to Consider:
    6. 6.6. Speculation
    7. 6.7. Expert/Opinion Evidence
      1. 6.7.1. Factors to Consider:
    8. 6.8. Documentary Evidence
      1. 6.8.1. General Principles
      2. 6.8.2. Failure to refer to documentary evidence
      3. 6.8.3. No Obligation to Assess Adverse Documentary Evidence, Unless Directly Contradictory
      4. 6.8.4. Selective reliance("Picking and choosing")
      5. 6.8.5. "Considering all the evidence" not determinative of well-foundedness of fear
      6. 6.8.6. Formal Rules of Evidence Do Not Apply
      7. 6.8.7. Opportunity to cross-examine
      8. 6.8.8. Bias of Author
      9. 6.8.9. "Tone" of the document
      10. 6.8.10. [FONT=&quot]POE[/FONT] Notes and other Minister's information
      11. 6.8.11. News reports and newspaper articles
      12. 6.8.12. Prior Inconsistent Statements or Information
      13. 6.8.13. Relevance of Documentary Evidence in Successor State Scenarios
      14. 6.8.14. Factors to Consider:
    9. 6.9. Videotape Evidence
      1. 6.9.1. Factors to Consider:
    10. 6.10. Teleconferencing and Videoconferencing
      1. 6.10.1. Teleconferencing
      2. 6.10.2. Factors to Consider
      3. 6.10.3. Videoconferencing
      4. 6.10.4. Factors to Consider
    11. 6.11. Foreign Law and Foreign Judgments with Particular Reference to Adoptions
      1. 6.11.1. Introduction
      2. 6.11.2. Terminology
      3. 6.11.3. Proof of Foreign Law
      4. 6.11.4. Declaratory Judgments and Deeds
      5. 6.11.5. Presumption of Validity under Foreign Law
      6. 6.11.6. Parent and Child Relationship Created by Operation of Foreign Law
      7. 6.11.7. Power of Attorney
      8. 6.11.8. Revocation of Adoption
      9. 6.11.9. Severing the Pre-Existing Legal Parent-Child Relationship
      10. 6.11.10. Public Policy
    12. 6.12. Foreign Judgments
      1. 6.12.1. Adoption
      2. 6.12.2. Divorce
      3. 6.12.3. Marriage
    13. 6.13. Foreign Law
      1. 6.13.1. Factors to Consider:
      2. 6.13.2. Date of the foreign legislation
      3. 6.13.3. Presumptions under foreign law
      4. 6.13.4. Expert Evidence
    14. 6.14. Judicial Notice
      1. 6.14.1. Judicial Notice and Specialized Knowledge in the [FONT=&quot]RPD[/FONT]
    15. 6.15. Victim Impact Evidence
    16. 6.16. Acceptable Documentation (Identity)
    17. 6.17. Misrepresentation
      1. 6.17.1. Introduction
      2. 6.17.2. Possible Legal and Evidentiary Issues
      3. 6.17.3. Nature of the Misrepresentation
      4. 6.17.4. Humanitarian and Compassionate Considerations
    18. 6.18. Conclusive Findings of Fact
  7. STANDARDS AND BURDEN OF PROOF
    1. 7.1. Refugee Protection Division ([FONT=&quot]RPD[/FONT])
    2. 7.2. Immigration Appeal Division ([FONT=&quot]IAD[/FONT])
    3. 7.3. Immigration Division ([FONT=&quot]ID[/FONT])
  8. SECURITY EVIDENCE IN APPEALS
    1. 8.1. Introduction
    2. 8.2. Initiating the procedure
    3. 8.3. Types of information subject to non-disclosure
    4. 8.4 The rationale for protecting information
    5. 8.5. The member's decision
    6. 8.6. Duty of disclosure
    7. 8.7. Assessing the evidence
    8. 8.8. Onus of proof on minister
    9. 8.9. Reliability of the evidence
    10. 8.10. Reasons for decision
    11. 8.11. Constitutionality of the process
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5. FACTORS TO CONSIDER IN WEIGHING EVIDENCE

5.1. GENERAL PRINCIPLE

The reliability of evidence should be determined in light of all of the circumstances/evidence of the particular case. The factors to be considered in weighing evidence are basically a matter of common sense.
[FONT=宋体]The Factors Listed Here And Elsewhere In The Paper Are Not Meant To Be Exhaustive.[/FONT]
5.1.1. Some Factors That May be Considered


  • the circumstances surrounding the making of the statement
  • any information about the person who made the statement
  • how many times the information was passed on before being made known to the witness
  • the consistency of the statement with other reliable evidence
  • the witness' opportunity to observe the events regarding which she testifies
  • the circumstances surrounding the event
  • whether there is better evidence available and whether a reason was provided for not producing that evidence
  • whether the witness is drawing reasonable inferences or is simply speculating
  • whether the evidence is consistent with reliable documentary/ other evidence
  • whether the evidence is self-serving
  • the circumstances under which a document was created
  • the opportunity to cross-examine the author of a document
  • whether some of the witness' evidence has been found not to be credible
  • whether the witness is disinterested in the result
  • whether the witness is biased
  • the witness' qualifications and knowledge of the subject regarding which she testifies
  • attitude and demeanour of a witness
  • knowledge and expertise of author of a document and the date of the document.
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芜琳 : 2009-05-27#61
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谢谢楼主分享,祝福楼主!我刚收到拒签信,老公已经找了律师,但还是想自己也学习下,有些地方可以提醒律师免得疏忽。不能什么都指望律师,在材料组织上把把关吧!

EvaSullivan : 2009-05-28#62
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Priscilla :会顺利的!一定也必须胜利!一直会为你代祷直到你胜利!

月如霜 : 2009-05-28#63
纳闷+郁闷

抱抱~~~我上次期排也要等几个月的.
当时新证明就是我怀孕了,但也败诉了.
要不是老公回来不好找工作,拖我也不去~~~
女儿现在1岁,如果再被移民局认为我们是假的,心也淡了,人也麻木了..
老公铁下心回来了...

沐连,你是上庭败诉的还是调解败诉的呢?

调解失败的话还有一次机会的。材料准备好些没有关系的。

但我实在不明白,孩子都有了,上诉居然都不能成功。为什么呀!郁闷。

Priscilla : 2009-05-28#64
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谢谢楼主分享,祝福楼主!我刚收到拒签信,老公已经找了律师,但还是想自己也学习下,有些地方可以提醒律师免得疏忽。不能什么都指望律师,在材0料组织上把把关吧!
谢谢芜琳的祝福,祝愿你上诉顺利:wdb9:

Priscilla : 2009-05-28#65
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Priscilla :会顺利的!一定也必须胜利!一直会为你代祷直到你胜利!
韵然,你太好了,多谢!!:wdb19::wdb9:我们会一直坚持的!

Priscilla : 2009-05-28#66
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但我实在不明白,孩子都有了,上诉居然都不能成功。为什么呀!郁闷。
是不是VO认为申请主要目的是移民?记得以前看到有这样的例子

情比金坚 : 2009-05-28#67
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<P>
抱抱~~~我上次期排也要等几个月的.</P>
<P>当时新证明就是我怀孕了,但也败诉了.</P>
<P>要不是老公回来不好找工作,拖我也不去~~~</P>
<P>女儿现在1岁,如果再被移民局认为我们是假的,心也淡了,人也麻木了..</P>
<P>老公铁下心回来了...
</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>怎么有孩子还能败诉呢?如果是调解败诉还有一次机会的,不要灰心啊,是真的就一定能过去,不要放弃<IMG class=inlineimg alt=0 src="http://forum.iask.ca/images/smilies/wdb10.gif" border=0 smilieid="21">我们也在上诉中,老公说如果败诉他就去绝食抗议(当然是气话)但我想就算是败了,就过几年再申请,反正</P>
<P>是真的就总能过去<IMG class=inlineimg alt=0 src="http://forum.iask.ca/images/smilies/wdb9.gif" border=0 smilieid="20"><IMG class=inlineimg alt=0 src="http://forum.iask.ca/images/smilies/wdb10.gif" border=0 smilieid="21"></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>

zhoujie107 : 2009-05-28#68
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好久没来了,惦记着你,来看看。不顺利的事情都会过去的,一切都会雨过天晴,要有信心。今天早上多伦多下雨了,天气有点儿冷。

Priscilla : 2009-05-28#69
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是真的就总能过去
是啊,是真的就总能到一起,没人能够阻拦

Priscilla : 2009-05-28#70
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好久没来了,惦记着你,来看看。不顺利的事情都会过去的,一切都会雨过天晴,要有信心。今天早上多伦多下雨了,天气有点儿冷。
jie,这么久没见,你好吗?想必是忙于工作吧,很高兴能收到你的消息!谢谢你的关注!我相信一切都会好起来,这一点始终未变:)

EvaSullivan : 2009-05-29#71
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我们教会的小组每天都会为你代祷,一切都有上帝掌管,你放心吧,会胜利的!!

Priscilla : 2009-05-29#72
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我们教会的小组每天都会为你代祷,一切都有上帝掌管,你放心吧,会胜利的!!
:wdb11::wdb19::wdb6::wdb6::wdb9:

yan1124 : 2009-05-30#73
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Priscilla,是武汉的JJ吧,我也是在武汉生活了20年呢。很能体会你现在的分居两地的滋味,有段时间,我和老公就是不停的别扭,其实什么事情都没有,就是两地分居心里烦,影响到两个人说话的语气。我想时间是你们爱情和感情最好的证明,肯定会上诉通过的。:wdb9::wdb9:

我也在WH,前段时间我和LG的情形和珍爱说的一样,一说话就烦,心情很糟糕,恨不得出去工作再不想这些事了。

在这里看这些帖,才知道团聚将会是困难重重,想想都怕,我还没有开始准备呢!这里好多JM好象也没有什么特殊情况,怎么都拖了这么久啊!

Priscilla : 2009-05-30#74
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我也在WH,前段时间我和LG的情形和珍爱说的一样,一说话就烦,心情很糟糕,恨不得出去工作再不想这些事了。

在这里看这些帖,才知道团聚将会是困难重重,想想都怕,我还没有开始准备呢!这里好多JM好象也没有什么特殊情况,怎么都拖了这么久啊!
你好武汉的朋友,不要怕,准备充分就不那么难,预祝你申请顺利!:wdb10::wdb9:

yan1124 : 2009-05-31#75
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你好武汉的朋友,不要怕,准备充分就不那么难,预祝你申请顺利!:wdb10::wdb9:

谢谢鼓励啊:wdb6:
我现在最担心的是孩子移民的问题,不知道是不是可以我和孩子一起申请。我的孩子已16岁,眼看就要准备上大学了,再拖这么几年我们一家人真是很难真正团聚了。前面看有和我类似情况的,说是继父不能担保孩子移民,必须先配偶移民成功再担保孩子,这样反复折腾拖了几年才办好。LG也不清楚这种情况应该怎样,他写信咨询加拿大的移民公司人家也不回信。LG长期在美国工作,我其实是可以申请去美国探亲,可是不能把孩子一个人丢在中国上学啊。LZ是MM吧,好多问题不清楚要向你请教哦

Priscilla : 2009-05-31#76
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谢谢鼓励啊:wdb6:
我现在最担心的是孩子移民的问题,不知道是不是可以我和孩子一起申请。我的孩子已16岁,眼看就要准备上大学了,再拖这么几年我们一家人真是很难真正团聚了。前面看有和我类似情况的,说是继父不能担保孩子移民,必须先配偶移民成功再担保孩子,这样反复折腾拖了几年才办好。LG也不清楚这种情况应该怎样,他写信咨询加拿大的移民公司人家也不回信。
只要你有孩子的监护权,就可以带孩子一起办理,继父可以担保的。仔细学习置顶的配偶和孩子团聚帖吧,写得很详细!

喜气洋洋 : 2009-08-17#77
楼主你好,上诉进程怎么样了

我是久违的喜MM,你的CASE怎么样了,我在关注。

我的宝宝三个月了,律师说收到HK那边传真说通知不到我去做DNA,晕S啦

现在我才发宝宝的出生证和护照影印件给律师,他来跟HK那边联系。

太麻烦了。

vivitong : 2009-08-17#78
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真得是不易啊,坚持!

Priscilla : 2009-08-17#79
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喜MM,你好!好想看看你的宝宝啊,一定非常可爱!宝宝的资料发过去以后还需要多长时间呢?

我的案子11月开庭,还有两个多月呢。

独上西楼 : 2010-01-03#80
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开庭胜利了吗?期待中

haze-wang : 2010-01-03#81
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等待你的好消息

zhenxixi : 2010-01-16#82
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谢谢朋友们!无以为报,给各位加分分了。
我从准备材料到申请再到上诉已经两年了,早已进入麻木状态,只想快点有个结果,不管胜或败。一家人就这么长期分着,不能拥有正常的家庭生活,这才是最让人烦恼的。等几个月等来这么一个消息,无话可说简直。

天啊,上诉两年了,还没有批啊?太夸张了,团聚的道路真不好走啊!太煎熬了。:wdb14:

Priscilla : 2010-01-16#83
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上诉一年多,从准备材料开始算就有两年多了

是很煎熬

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-01-16#84
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Priscilla, 你11月份是调解还是开庭啊?结果如何啊?
我老公是2009年5月4日面试被拒的。然后,就找律师提交了上诉要求。9月22日,律师收到了所有有关我老公申请团聚的材料。由于当时,我在上海。所以,等我回到加拿大,律师和我又重新整理了新的补充材料,于11月10日寄回移民部。现在在等待过程中。我的宝宝2月中旬就要出生了,老公又不能过来照顾我,心情郁闷啊。

Priscilla : 2010-01-16#85
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Priscilla, 你11月份是调解还是开庭啊?结果如何啊?
我老公是2009年5月4日面试被拒的。然后,就找律师提交了上诉要求。9月22日,律师收到了所有有关我老公申请团聚的材料。由于当时,我在上海。所以,等我回到加拿大,律师和我又重新整理了新的补充材料,于11月10日寄回移民部。现在在等待过程中。我的宝宝2月中旬就要出生了,老公又不能过来照顾我,心情郁闷啊。
我是没有得到调解机会直接开庭的,开庭已经延期三次,要到2月才会有结果。

小小,你就要正式当妈妈了,不论上诉进程如何,为了宝宝,都要努力保持心情平和哦!为你和宝宝祝福!:wdb9:

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-01-16#86
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Priscilla, 谢谢你。为了一个签证,真是煎熬啊。星期五,老公申请探亲签证,过来陪产也被拒了。真是一次次的打击,真的难受啊。除了坚持还是坚持,人生就是这样折磨人。

Priscilla : 2010-01-16#87
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Priscilla, 谢谢你。为了一个签证,真是煎熬啊。星期五,老公申请探亲签证,过来陪产也被拒了。真是一次次的打击,真的难受啊。除了坚持还是坚持,人生就是这样折磨人。
别客气,我很遗憾自己只能给你言语上的安慰,而无法提供实质性的帮助:wdb14:

不过,好事多磨,最后结果肯定是好的,要相信这一点,保持希望!

月如霜 : 2010-01-16#88
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2月快到了 希望听到你的好消息

Priscilla : 2010-01-17#89
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2月快到了 希望听到你的好消息
谢谢月这么久以来对我的支持:wdb19:,期待用好消息回馈大家!

夏至 : 2010-01-17#90
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2月快到了 希望听到你的好消息


没错,2月马上就到了..虎年好运气!

jhuan : 2010-01-17#91
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谢谢朋友们!无以为报,给各位加分分了。
我从准备材料到申请再到上诉已经两年了,早已进入麻木状态,只想快点有个结果,不管胜或败。一家人就这么长期分着,不能拥有正常的家庭生活,这才是最让人烦恼的。等几个月等来这么一个消息,无话可说简直。
前辈说的没错,深有同感,长期分居,真的心情无法平静,只有我们自己知道,无法想象痛苦,希望办团聚移民战友们:wdb9:早日和亲爱的团聚,:wdb6::wdb6::wdb6::wdb9:

Priscilla : 2010-01-17#92
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看到几位老朋友,心情也好起来!谢谢大家!

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-01-20#93
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今天收到律师的email,说他收到传真,我们的案例不适合调解,因为调解过程不能在一个小时内完成,所以直接到开庭。哎,觉得好无奈啊,又是漫长的等待,都不知道什么时候才能开庭。

Priscilla : 2010-01-20#94
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今天收到律师的email,说他收到传真,我们的案例不适合调解,因为调解过程不能在一个小时内完成,所以直接到开庭。哎,觉得好无奈啊,又是漫长的等待,都不知道什么时候才能开庭。
小小,如果直接开庭的话,可能还要等几个月呢,等收到通知信看排到哪天?别灰心,加油哦:wdb9:

yan1124 : 2010-01-21#95
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我是没有得到调解机会直接开庭的,开庭已经延期三次,要到2月才会有结果。

祝福你下个月有好消息啊!:wdb9:我也在做长期抗战的准备。我把你的情况说给我家LG听,要他有心理准备...

Priscilla : 2010-01-21#96
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祝福你下个月有好消息啊!:wdb9:我也在做长期抗战的准备。我把你的情况说给我家LG听,要他有心理准备...
谢谢yan:wdb19:

不建议用我的情况吓唬你家LG,我这经历太特殊,属于极其个别的特例,一般同学们不会碰到的,希望大家都比我顺利

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-03-01#97
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Priscilla,关心,开庭结果如何啊?希望一切顺利。

Priscilla : 2010-03-01#98
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小小,谢谢你的关心,我们开庭没有当庭判决,还要等一段时间,有消息了我会上来告诉大家,到时候再说说详细情况。

hly810 : 2010-03-01#99
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安慰,并关注你的情况,诚祝你顺利!希望抽空谈谈这次开庭时的细节吧,大家帮你分析分析。

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-03-01#100
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鼓励。一定能成功的。

jhuan : 2010-03-02#101
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抱抱你。

Priscilla : 2010-03-02#102
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安慰,并关注你的情况,诚祝你顺利!希望抽空谈谈这次开庭时的细节吧,大家帮你分析分析。

鼓励。一定能成功的。

抱抱你。
谢谢大家哦!:wdb19:最近比较忙,等有空了就来写开庭的事,老公和我加起来被问了8个小时呢 :wdb23:

aiyoh : 2010-03-02#103
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给大家提供一种思路,不知可行性如何。
我先生在加的一个朋友,几年前,是直接走上前去找一位议员求他帮忙成功的

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-03-02#104
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谢谢大家哦!:wdb19:最近比较忙,等有空了就来写开庭的事,老公和我加起来被问了8个小时呢 :wdb23:

开庭的时候,在中国的老公或者老婆也要一起被询问吗?问了8个小时,那不等于法官的一天的工作时间都在上面了吗,他们都不用吃饭休息吗?开庭有那么可怕吗?

hly810 : 2010-03-02#105
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也有此疑问

Priscilla : 2010-03-03#106
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谢谢aiyoh的建议,有不少童鞋曾向议员寻求帮助,只是对我来说情况太特殊,找议员也没用的。出庭的那位移民局counsel很固执地认为我们是商婚,百般刁难,估计他都没怎么看我们提交的好几百页详尽的证据,有些问题问得确实过分了,让曾经历过北京面试严峻考验的我们感觉严重被歧视,和他比起来,北京使馆的面试VO算是很礼貌很客气的了。所以这次上诉前途未卜。第一次开庭5小时,都是向我老公提问,从一大早开始,中间只休息了一会儿,下午法官有别的案子,没来得及问我,所以安排日子又开了一次庭,第二次就是专门提问我,问了3小时。

话说开庭前翻译一听说那位移民局counsel的名字,当即倒抽一口凉气,说撞在此君手里是最不走运的。

hly810 : 2010-03-03#107
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

安慰,怎么会这样,据说上诉部会推翻北京的,这么说他们也认同北京的审理了?你们上诉请律师了吗?律师是否起作用了?还有他们都问什么过分问题了?有时间谈谈。先调整一下心情吧,再想办法,办法总会有的。

Priscilla : 2010-03-04#108
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

谢谢hly的安慰,上诉部的法官还好,只是移民局的代表律师不友好。我们没有请律师,被问的问题太多,过一阵有时间了再整理出来。

yan1124 : 2010-03-04#109
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Priscilla,希望能尽快听到你的好消息!真是太不容易了!我家LG说最后一定会通过的,他有个朋友也是上诉后通过的。

liliunl : 2010-03-05#110
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

安慰并关注。
说说我的上诉情况。我们开庭时问了我老公2个半小时。问了我差不多2小时,从凌晨3点多问到快5点,那个移民局的代表律师非常可恶,连7、8年前的事,包括无关紧要的亲戚都挖出来问。现在我们也是在等移民局通知。
感觉律师非常有用,上庭时先是我们请的律师问我们问题,他问的都是对我们非常有利的问题,在最后陈词的时候也说了很多对我们有利的好话。

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-03-05#111
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

安慰并关注。
说说我的上诉情况。我们开庭时问了我老公2个半小时。问了我差不多2小时,从凌晨3点多问到快5点,那个移民局的代表律师非常可恶,连7、8年前的事,包括无关紧要的亲戚都挖出来问。现在我们也是在等移民局通知。
感觉律师非常有用,上庭时先是我们请的律师问我们问题,他问的都是对我们非常有利的问题,在最后陈词的时候也说了很多对我们有利的好话。

学习。

小小胖胖胖 : 2010-03-05#112
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

安慰并关注。
说说我的上诉情况。我们开庭时问了我老公2个半小时。问了我差不多2小时,从凌晨3点多问到快5点,那个移民局的代表律师非常可恶,连7、8年前的事,包括无关紧要的亲戚都挖出来问。现在我们也是在等移民局通知。
感觉律师非常有用,上庭时先是我们请的律师问我们问题,他问的都是对我们非常有利的问题,在最后陈词的时候也说了很多对我们有利的好话。

哦,那么你得情况最终是开庭就过了?

hly810 : 2010-03-05#113
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

想问LILI,你们从拿到北京寄来的材料到开庭,等了多长时间?这个时间是上诉部给你们安排好的吗?谢谢

hly810 : 2010-03-05#114
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

你们中间经过调解了没有?还是直接上庭的?上庭结束后,通知你们多久通知结果?

Aesir : 2010-03-05#115
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

Bless Priscilla~~
谢谢hly的安慰,上诉部的法官还好,只是移民局的代表律师不友好。我们没有请律师,被问的问题太多,过一阵有时间了再整理出来。

月如霜 : 2010-03-15#116
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

调解的时候会当场打电话给被担保人吗?

月如霜 : 2010-03-15#117
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

希望priscilla早日有好消息。

xiaodai : 2011-03-18#118
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

学习当中~~~~

Priscilla : 2011-03-19#119
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

学习当中~~~~
xiaodai,加油哦!!

xiaodai : 2011-03-19#120
回复: 郁闷中,说说自己遇到的情况供上诉的同学参考

xiaodai,加油哦!!

谢谢你的鼓励~~