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如何继续从事会计工作?
彩霞满天 2005-11-08 16:57

本人在中国有注册会计师证书,希望到加国后继续从事会计工作,听说那边要从事会计工作要有当地执业资格(CA,CGA,CMA),请高明人士指点一下,是到加拿大后,到学校念一个会计类的学位毕业,还是考从业资格?哪种工作前景更好?薪水如何?另外,如果考从业资格,是考哪种?CA?CGA?CMA?

taprogge 2005-11-08 17:19

CGA

彩霞满天 2005-11-09 10:50

多谢taprogge!能否具体指点一下?先谢谢了!!

瞌睡虫 2005-11-09 11:49

俺在国内考了CGA, 花了很多钱, 不知道来年长登后有没有用捏?

彩霞满天 2005-11-09 11:57

引用:

作者: 瞌睡虫
俺在国内考了CGA, 花了很多钱, 不知道来年长登后有没有用捏?

CGA的难度如何?你全部考过了吗?

瞌睡虫 2005-11-09 12:25

难度不是太大, 因为我工作忙, 岁数比较大了, 肯定读起来觉得累, 而且现在累病了不是.我是今年全部考完的, 对于考过国内注会的人来说, 如果英语过关,还是比较容易的,就是挺占时间的, 毕竟要考的科目比较多呀.

对于前景, 我自己都不知道呢.但是我是想用来到加以后找工作的.

小南瓜 2005-11-09 16:20

http://www.cga-online.org/servlet/cu...View?region=ca

CGA的网站,希望可以找到你们需要的资料。

彩霞满天 2005-11-10 15:56

谢谢小南瓜和瞌睡虫!!请问瞌睡虫,一年考几门比较好?听说考试题目有很多是练习册上的,是吗?另外,是电脑远程授课吗?授课内容及讲义好理解吗?我实在对此一无所知,望不吝赐教,谢谢!

wyman 2005-11-10 17:17

引用:

作者: 瞌睡虫
俺在国内考了CGA, 花了很多钱, 不知道来年长登后有没有用捏?

:wdb20: :wdb20: :wdb20:
我加国的亲属正在学习CGA,说很有用,我查了国内很多相关信息,我想学习去考,可是感觉需要花很多时间和金钱.14门课,考试每门3400元,还有培训费呢, 5555~~~

你是怎么学的?多长时间考过的?能给详细说说吗?
或者MSN联系,谢谢!

goober 2005-11-15 18:07

http://www.rolia.net/ow/ow_showAuthor.jsp?author=7y7

这是醉里吴音的文章,此人似乎是加拿大会计专业人士。文章有点老,但是据说很精华。

http://club.esnai.com/club/bbs/CGAbbsView.asp

这是国内CGA论坛,比较热闹的一个。

彩霞满天 2005-11-15 18:30

谢谢goober,对我很有帮助,怎么给你加SW?

乡巴佬 2005-11-15 18:31

CGA要先评估一下,由他定你该学几门!

goober 2005-11-15 18:56

我也不是很会,据说是点我的贴子左下角的天平
嘿嘿嘿嘿

HELENAWU 2005-11-15 23:22

关注!!!

为了移民后的生活,看来还得考虑去考CGA,忙!苦啊!
递完材料就准备考吧!反正说不定要等2-3年,就先考着备用吧。。。。

多谢各位热心人!!!!

wyman 2005-11-16 01:28

引用:

作者: HELENAWU
关注!!!

为了移民后的生活,看来还得考虑去考CGA,忙!苦啊!
递完材料就准备考吧!反正说不定要等2-3年,就先考着备用吧。。。。

多谢各位热心人!!!!

咱也考虑考虑去读读~~~

彩霞满天 2005-11-16 10:37

小南瓜及各位有经验的朋友,如果还没有加拿大会计资格,过去后能否先从事会计工作,再慢慢考证书获得提高?能否给指引 一下职业发展道路?多谢!!!

goober 2005-11-16 10:45

Accountant Produced NOVEMBER 2005

Accountants provide financial reporting and consulting services for organizations and individuals.

NOC Number(s): 1111.2
Educational Requirements: 4 years post-secondary education/training
Employment Outlook: Employment turnover plus average occupational growth in Alberta
Interests: M I D

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Duties
Accountants work in business and industrial organizations, educational institutions, government and private firms that offer accounting services to the public. Duties vary from one position to another but, in general, accountants:

design and administer accounting and information systems that include records of assets, liabilities and business transactions
prepare budgets, tax returns and financial statements
analyze financial information to assist in planning financial management policies, business strategies and the control and use of business assets
provide personal and corporate income tax and estate planning services
provide internal and external auditing services (for more information, see the Internal Auditor occupational profile)
make recommendations regarding solutions to business and financial problems
provide support in litigation matters
serve as bankruptcy trustees and business valuators.
Accountants may have one of three professional designations:

Certified General Accountant (CGA)
Certified Management Accountant (CMA)
Chartered Accountant (CA)


Working Conditions
Accountants usually work in an office setting. Their hours of work vary depending on the organization and level of responsibility but overtime is often required at company budgeting time, month end or in late winter and early spring (when public accountants are busy with year end corporate work and personal income tax returns). Depending on the position, some travel may be required.


Personal Characteristics
Accountants need the following characteristics:

good oral and written communication skills
critical thinking, logical analysis and problem solving skills
the ability to work alone and as part of a team
high ethical standards.
They should enjoy:

having clear rules and organized methods to guide their activities
developing innovative solutions to problems
directing the activities of others.


Educational Requirements
Training to become an accountant involves a combination of related post-secondary education and practical experience. Specific requirements vary depending on the professional designation.

To be certified by the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Alberta (ICCA), Chartered Accountants must:

have a university degree or an equivalent combination of education and experience
be employed with a CA firm approved to train students
enrol in and complete the Chartered Accountants School of Business (CASB) program which includes online facilitated learning modules and group interactive learning meetings with facilitators.
Overall, after allowing for study leaves, two to three years are generally required to complete the ICAA program. The final national exam is generally completed before experience requirements.

To be certified by the Society of Management Accountants of Alberta, Certified Management Accountants must:

have a university degree with 18 prerequisite syllabus topics
pass the national CMA entrance exam
complete the two year Strategic Leadership Program while employed full time in a qualifying accounting-related management position.
To be certified by the Certified General Accountants' Association of Alberta, Certified General Accountants must:

have a bachelor's degree. CGA has agreements with post-secondary institutions that allow students to concurrrently study for the CGA designation as well as earn a bachelor's degree.
complete 18 courses. Individuals who have taken equivalent post-secondary education courses may be granted exemptions up to a maximum of 14 transfer credits. Courses may be taken prior to obtaining employment in the accounting field but the program is designed for people who are working full-time.
a minimum of twenty four months of full-time practical experience in finance and accounting.
Prospective students are strongly advised to check specific requirements and course suitability with the appropriate professional association, institute or society before enroling in post-secondary program.

In Alberta, the following post-secondary institutions offer degree programs in accounting.

Athabasca University offers a four year Bachelor of Commerce degree program with a major in accounting. Anyone 16 years of age or older may apply for this distance education program.
Grande Prairie Regional College offers a Bachelor of Commerce program in conjunction with Athabasca University.
Grant MacEwan College in Edmonton offers a Bachelor of Applied Business Administration - Accounting degree program. Applicants for this two year program must have an Alberta business administration diploma in accounting (or equivalent) including specified courses with a minimum grade point average (GPA) of 2.3 on a 4.0 scale .
Lakeland College in Vermilion offers a Bachelor of Applied Financial Services degree program. Applicants for this two year program must have a recognized two year diploma in business administration.
Mount Royal College in Calgary offers a four year Bachelor of Applied Accounting degree program. The entrance requirement is a high school diploma with a 60 per cent average in English Language Arts 30-1 (or English 30), Pure Math 30 and three other appropriate Grade 12 subjects.
The Northern Alberta Institute of Technology (NAIT) in Edmonton offers a Bachelor of Applied Business Administration - Accounting degree program that includes two directed field study semesters in industry. Applicants for this four semester program must have a two year business diploma from an accredited institution with specified coursework and a minimum GPA of 2.3.
The Southern Alberta Institute of Technology (SAIT) in Calgary offers a Bachelor of Applied Business Administration degree program. Applicants must have a two year business administration or accelerated accounting diploma, or equivalent, with specified coursework and a minimum GPA of 2.3.
The University of Alberta in Edmonton offers four year and five year co-op Bachelor of Commerce degree programs with a specialization in accounting. Applicants must have completed one pre-professional year in a Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science program. In general, the entrance requirement for these programs is a competitive average in English Language Arts 30-1 (or English 30) and four other appropriate 30 level subjects.
The University of Calgary offers a four year Bachelor of Commerce degree and five year co-op degree programs with specializations in accounting. The entrance requirement is a high school diploma with a competitive average in English Language Arts 30-1 (or English 30), Pure Math 30 and three of the following: Math 31, Social Studies 30, Biology 30, Chemistry 30, Physics 30, Science 30, a language 30 other than English, one five credit Grade 12 subject.
The University of Lethbridge offers a four year Bachelor of Management degree in accounting and five year combined degree programs. The entrance requirement is an average of 65 per cent in English Language Arts 30-1 (or English 30), three other approved 30 level subjects and a fifth approved Grade 12 subject, or an approved business administration/management diploma (for post-diploma admission).
CGA students can earn an Honours Bachelor of Commerce degree by distance education through Laurentian University.

The following post-secondary institutions offer two year Accounting or Business Administration diploma programs:

Athabasca University
Grande Prairie Regional College
Grant MacEwan College in Edmonton
Keyano College in Fort McMurray
Lakeland College in Lloydminster and Vermilion
Lethbridge Community College
Medicine Hat College in Medicine Hat and Brooks
Mount Royal College in Calgary
NAIT in Edmonton and Fairview
Portage College in Lac La Biche
Red Deer College
SAIT in Calgary
Admission requirements for these programs vary but generally include a high school diploma or equivalent with a minimum average in specified Grade 12 courses such as English Language Arts 30-1 or 30-2, and Pure or Applied Math 30.

Continuing education programs are often offered on an as needed basis.

For current information about programs and mature student admission policies, please check post-secondary institution calendars or websites.


Employment and Advancement
Accountants may offer services on a fee-for-service basis or be employed on a salaried basis. They often work for:

businesses
governments
management consultant practices
corporate and personal tax preparation offices
banks
manufacturing companies
stock exchanges
credit offices
public accounting practices
educational institutions.
Experienced individuals who have professional accounting designations may advance to management positions or teach at the post-secondary level. Those in public accounting firms can move through the ranks of senior staff to become managers and partners. In industry, they can become:

controllers
treasurers
chief financial officers
senior executives.
In government, accountants may be employed as:

budget officers
internal auditors
accounting managers
information systems managers
senior managers/executives.
Accountants are part of the larger National Occupational Classification 1111: Financial Auditors and Accountants. In Alberta, over 75 per cent of people employed in this classification work in the following industries:

Professional and Technical Services
Oil and Gas Extraction
Public Administration
Finance, Insurance and Real Estate.
The employment outlook in this occupation will be influenced by a wide variety of factors including:

trends and events affecting overall employment (especially in the industries listed above)
location in Alberta
employment turnover (work opportunities generated by people leaving existing positions)
occupational growth (work opportunities resulting from the creation of new positions that never existed before)
size of the occupation.
Over 25,750 Albertans are employed in the Financial Auditors and Accountants occupational group which is expected to grow 1.5 to 2.5 per cent each year from 2004 to 2009 in Alberta. It is forecasted that 300 to 600 new positions will be created each year in addition to job openings created by employment turnover. (Note: Since accountants form only a part of the larger occupational group on which this forecast is based, only a portion of the new positions created will be for accountants.)

Employment turnover is expected to increase as members of the baby boom generation retire over the next five to ten years.


Salary
According to the 2005 Alberta Wage and Salary Survey, Albertans in the Accountants occupational group working part-time or full-time earned from $14,000 to $194,200 a year. The average salary was $50,600 a year. Accountants who have professional designations generally earn significantly more.


Other Sources of Information
Post-secondary institution calendars and websites (see Educational Requirements above)

EDinfo website: www.alis.gov.ab.ca/edinfo

Certified General Accountants Association of Alberta website: www.cga-alberta.org

Institute of Chartered Accountants of Alberta website: www.icaa.ab.ca

Society of Management Accountants of Alberta website: www.cma-alberta.com


Related Occupational Profiles
Accommodation Manager
Accounting Technician
Economist
Internal Auditor
School Business Official
Systems Auditor

Related High School Subjects
Communication Technology; Enterprise and Innovation; Financial Management; Information Processing; Language Arts; Legal Studies; Management and Marketing; and Mathematics

Related Post-Secondary Field of Study
Business, Management and Administrative Studies

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For more information on career planning, occupations and educational programs, visit the Alberta Learning Information Service (ALIS) website at www.alis.gov.ab.ca, call the Alberta Career Information Hotline toll-free in Alberta at 1-800-661-3753 or 422-4266 in Edmonton (deaf and hard of hearing individuals can call 1-800-232-7215 toll-free for message relay or 422-5283 in Edmonton), or visit an Alberta Human Resources and Employment service centre near you.

The information contained in this profile was current as of the dates shown. Salaries, employment outlook and educational programs may change. Please check the information before making any career decisions.


Copyright © 2005 Alberta Human Resources and Employment

goober 2005-11-16 10:46

Accounting Technician Produced OCTOBER 2005

Accounting technicians maintain systematic records of business transactions and verify and record those transactions. They use computers to calculate, prepare and process invoices, accounts payable and receivable, budget documents and other routine financial records.

NOC Number(s): 1231
Educational Requirements: High school diploma
Employment Outlook: Employment turnover plus above average occupational growth in Alberta
Interests: M D i

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Duties
In small organizations, accounting technicians may:

perform computer data entry and analysis functions
prepare, type and mail monthly customer statements
take telephone orders
make up cheques
make bank deposits and reconcile records of bank transactions
assist with accounts receivable and accounts payable records, ledgers and journals
assist with payroll calculations
perform other clerical duties.
In large organizations, these duties are often divided among several employees called payroll clerks or cost clerks, for example. In general, they:

use various computer applications
record daily transactions
total accounts by machine
compute charges
prepare invoices and reports.
To perform these duties, accounting technicians need an understanding of business documents such as receipts, till tapes, purchase orders, credit slips, sales slips, banking statements, financial statements and invoices.


Working Conditions
Accounting technicians usually work regular weekday hours in a comfortable office environment. Overtime may be required during peak business periods and standard hours may be different in the service industry.


Personal Characteristics
Accounting technicians must be able to:

communicate effectively in person and on paper
work with numbers quickly and accurately
concentrate for extended periods of time and pay close attention to detail but also switch back and forth between tasks
follow verbal and written instructions
analyze data
keep employer information confidential
work independently on routine tasks.
They should enjoy having clear rules and organized methods for their work, balancing financial records and business transactions, and operating computerized systems and office equipment.


Educational Requirements
The specific educational requirements for accounting and bookkeeping positions vary greatly from one employer to another depending on the scope and responsibility of the position. Most companies use electronic bookkeeping operations and require their employees to have related training or experience. Up to two years of on-the-job training or a related post-secondary certificate or diploma may be required. Employers may prefer to hire job candidates who are working toward a professional accounting designation (see the Accountant occupational profile).

High school courses in the following subject areas are valuable when seeking employment in this field:

English
accounting procedures
law (especially contract law and statutes)
basic economics
business mathematics
office procedures and business machine operation
computer applications including word processing, spreadsheet and accounting software.
Most employers prefer to hire job candidates who have taken related courses and programs from colleges, technical institutes or private vocational schools. In Alberta, a number of institutions offer accounting courses and programs:

Academy of Learning in Airdrie, Calgary, Edmonton, High River, Lethbridge, Medicine Hat and Red Deer
Alberta Career Computer Center Inc. in Edmonton
Athabasca University
Bow Valley College in Calgary
Business Career College in Grande Prairie
CDI College of Business, Technology and Healthcare in Calgary and Edmonton
Campbell College Ltd. in Edmonton
Grande Prairie Regional College
Grant MacEwan College in Edmonton
HCC Choice College in Spruce Grove
Keyano College in Fort McMurray
Lakeland College in Lloydminster and Vermilion
Lethbridge Community College
Mann Career Training Ltd. in Spruce View
Medicine Hat College
Mount Royal College in Calgary
NorQuest College in Edmonton
Northern Alberta Institute of Technology (NAIT) in Edmonton and Fairview
Portage College in Lac La Biche
Red Deer College
Reeves College in Lloydminster
Slate Training Centre in Edmonton
Southern Alberta Institute of Technology (SAIT) Continuing Education Division in Calgary
University of Alberta Faculty of Extension in Edmonton
University of Calgary Faculty of Continuing Education
University of Lethbridge.
Prospective students should investigate the suitability and reputation of training programs with employers before enrolling in a program. Courses and programs vary considerably in content, length, admission requirements and cost. In general, a high school diploma or mature student status is required for admission. However, the entrance requirements for some programs include specific achievement and course requirements (e.g. at least 60 per cent in English Language Arts 30-1 or English 30 and Pure Math 30 or Math 30, or 65 per cent in ELA 30-2 or English 33 and Applied Math 30 or Math 33).

Continuing education programs are often offered on an as needed basis.

For current information about programs and mature student admission policies, please check post-secondary institution calendars or websites.


Employment and Advancement
Accounting technicians are employed in organizations ranging from retail businesses and manufacturing firms to social service agencies that provide health, education or other social services. Some positions are part-time.

Advancement opportunities generally depend on the accounting technician's willingness to take further education. Some accounting technicians move into related data management positions.

Accounting technicians are part of the larger National Occupational Classification 1231: Bookkeepers. In Alberta, over 75 per cent of people employed in this classification work in the following industries:

Professional and Technical Services
Construction
Oil and Gas Extraction
Retail Trade
Transportation and Warehousing
Repair, Maintenance, Personal and Other Services
Finance, Insurance and Real Estate.
The employment outlook in this occupation will be influenced by a wide variety of factors including:

trends and events affecting overall employment (especially in the industries listed above)
location in Alberta
employment turnover (work opportunities generated by people leaving existing positions)
occupational growth (work opportunities resulting from the creation of new positions that never existed before)
size of the occupation.
Over 17,000 Albertans are employed in the Bookkeepers occupational group which is expected to grow 2.2 to 3.2 per cent each year from 2004 to 2009 in Alberta. It is forecasted that 370 to 550 new positions will be created each year in addition to job openings created by employment turnover. (Note: Since accounting technicians form only a part of the larger occupational group on which this forecast is based, only a portion of the new positions created will be for accounting technicians.)

Employment turnover is expected to increase as members of the baby boom generation retire over the next five to ten years.


Salary
Inexperienced accounting technicians may start at salaries not much higher than minimum wage. Starting salaries are higher for graduates of related post-secondary programs.

According to the 2005 Alberta Wage and Salary Survey, Albertans in the Bookkeepers occupational group working part-time or full-time earned from $10,800 to $91,300 a year. The average salary was $32,400 a year.


Other Sources of Information
Post-secondary institution calendars and websites (see Educational Requirements above)

EDinfo website: www.alis.gov.ab.ca/edinfo


Related Occupational Profiles
Accountant
Administrative Assistant
Career and Technology Studies Teacher
Financial Planner
Internal Auditor

Related High School Subjects
Communication Technology; Enterprise and Innovation; Financial Management; Information Processing; Language Arts; Legal Studies; and Mathematics

Related Post-Secondary Field of Study
Business, Management and Administrative Studies; and Clerical and Administrative Support

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For more information on career planning, occupations and educational programs, visit the Alberta Learning Information Service (ALIS) website at www.alis.gov.ab.ca, call the Alberta Career Information Hotline toll-free in Alberta at 1-800-661-3753 or 422-4266 in Edmonton (deaf and hard of hearing individuals can call 1-800-232-7215 toll-free for message relay or 422-5283 in Edmonton), or visit an Alberta Human Resources and Employment service centre near you.

The information contained in this profile was current as of the dates shown. Salaries, employment outlook and educational programs may change. Please check the information before making any career decisions.


Copyright © 2005 Alberta Human Resources and Employment

小南瓜 2005-11-16 12:12

引用:

作者: 彩霞满天
小南瓜及各位有经验的朋友,如果还没有加拿大会计资格,过去后能否先从事会计工作,再慢慢考证书获得提高?能否给指引 一下职业发展道路?多谢!!!

醉里吴音的文章可以好好看看,她是MBA毕业现在从事会计专业工作的。虽然我不会学习会计专业,但也觉得很受启发。

没有本地经验和证书也有工作机会,我一个朋友就找到了一份初级工作。建议来了之后可以先参加一个workshop学习一下找工作的技巧。

彩霞满天 2005-11-16 16:33

太谢谢了!在此给你们送鲜花!!

瞌睡虫 2005-11-16 17:40

TO 彩霞漫天

CGA一年最多考4次,每次可选1门或以上, 但是我觉得每次1门就可以了, 如果按照每年4门的速度, 3年之内可以考完, 最后一门难度比较大, 也许需要比较长的准备时间.授课内容都在网上, 如果讨论问题的话, 有学习小组.不过我没有参加过学习小组.前面的课程我感觉作业比考试难, 考试都是比较一般的知识,题目我虽然在考前不知道, 但是考完发现历年的考题很有用, 做几套就可以了. 就是应付作业比较头痛, 你想象每周都写作业, 赶上周末加班, 就要干通宵.

亲亲我的宝贝猪猪 2005-11-16 17:44

顶一下。

瞌睡虫 2005-11-16 17:50

TO Wyman,

我以前考过ACCA,考到一半, 转到了CGA,有些半图而费.
学了7门, 有的只写作业, 不考试, 需要看你的评估结果如何. 从02年初开考, 中间因病休息1年, 05年考完了.
觉得比较辛苦, 但与ACCA不同, CGA是平时辛苦, 考试放松, 而ACCA正相反, 书都看的非常明白, 拿来考题却不知所云.

sattva 2005-11-16 17:51

出去再考,费用三千刀,国内要四万多,而且国内考的不大好用,因为免试标准不同
所以你在国内的评估结果不能拿到加拿大去入学,我打电话问过了。
考四门上可以转学

sattva 2005-11-16 17:54

我一直觉得做会计是个比较耻辱的行业

瞌睡虫 2005-11-16 17:54

听了SATTVA的话, 俺好痛苦.

HELENAWU 2005-11-16 19:51

瞌睡虫有毅力考完CGA,是让人佩服的,不耻辱,别痛苦了!

痛苦的是还要去考的人,比如我之类的,呵呵。。。

亲爱的蚊子 2005-11-16 20:33

sattva 说到
“我一直觉得做会计是个比较耻辱的行业 ”

为什么呢,会有这种感觉?

sattva 2005-11-17 16:01

我在这行已经弄了十五年了,感觉是:
1\学的东西大多没什么用,
2\做这个不象业务人员对行业有真正接触,虽然在很多行业都可以找到工作,但对任何一个行业都不真正了解,很难有自己的真正事业.
3\做这行大多是些琐碎的工作,看着好象成果不少,做了很多事,但觉得最终并没什么用,
4\不认为会计学可以作为一门科学,虽然试图用科学的方法来进行
5\觉得没有为人类做过什么,却吃了这多年饭.耻辱

还有,在别人看来,看得懂报表跟俺们多年本专业的没什么区别

亲爱的蚊子 2005-11-17 23:07

sattva的话有道理!
我是做这个的,可是我一点都不喜欢呀,我生性活泼,好动,但是学的就是这个,你说突然一下转哪儿去呀,老大!呵,没办法,老老实实干吧。

sattva 2005-11-18 11:34

我转过行呀,考过风马牛不相及专业的博士,而且考的每门都是第一名呀,可是单位不让去读.
没转行成,气愤之下就辞职移民了.
我想去学习种花,权当奢侈的爱好,但或许有天有用.CGA过去再看考不考,只是混口饭吃的,如果跟打累博收入差不多就不考了,我不喜欢坐着不动的死板工作.

亲爱的蚊子,所见略同,为你加声望!

sattva 2005-11-18 11:35

今天显示网页有错误,加不上,下次再补上.

Suzhou 2005-11-18 17:03

Hello, Sattva. I was really shocked by what you said about "accountant".

I am an accountant too and really love my job. As a good accountant, you also need to talk with different guys to know the facts behind the figures. Acctually, communication is the most important thing for an accountant.

Suzhou 2005-11-18 17:06

Without accountant, people can not have clear picture of the company's financial result. And we are also help people to understand the financial impact from what they plan to do.

Are these things not important?

wyman 2005-11-18 17:59

城里的人想出去,城外的人想进来~~~就是这样子.
到底考不考?现在等移民也是浪费时间,考个4、5门再转过去不知道好不好~
Anybody agree with me?

亲爱的蚊子 2005-11-19 00:35

先谢过sattva,分分虽是下次加上,但还是先谢过!!

又看了“苏洲”同学的话,这样吧,会计不能说它完全不重要,喜欢做这个工作的人,钻进去了,他们做起来还是很有成就感的。
我有一位中年的注会的老大姐,她就很是痴迷于数字,也热衷于与税务的人和各行业的会计工作打交道,与人争辩起财务方面的东西来忘记了一切,说起话来句句犀利无法回驳。

兴趣是最好的老师。一旦喜欢,就能把它做得很好很好。
俗语说三百六十行,行行出状元,说得很对。做什么事情都能成就大业,发大财,就看你能否把它做到最顶尖。我前几天还看报纸上说,一个人养猪还成了千万富翁呢,成了养猪这一行里的最杰出的人之一呢。呵呵

亲爱的蚊子 2005-11-19 00:43

sattva,同学,我也在种花花呀,我在我家园子里面,种了好多花呢,花了我不少钱,因为我刚开始不会插枝嫁接之类,只好买现成的。
种花挺费劲的呢,不种不知道,一种才知晓得呀,又要除荲又要灭虫,隔些日子就得打药,
施肥,浇水。夏天每天浇七八桶水才把院子浇透。
不过还比较有成就感呢,我的桂花树长得很好,又高大又漂亮,今年八月已经开过花,月季花圃也至到现在还开着红艳艳的花朵,金银花也爬藤了,爬了半边围栏了。

luhui 2005-11-19 03:12

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作者: 亲爱的蚊子

兴趣是最好的老师。一旦喜欢,就能把它做得很好很好。

:wdb10:
希望每个人都能干上自己感兴趣的工作。

HELENAWU 2005-11-21 16:54

选择你喜欢的,喜欢你选择的。

HELENAWU 2005-11-21 17:13

我准备明年中开始学,DIY递完档就去了解详情。

瞌睡虫方便给我个E-mail吗?我想一定会有问题请教你的。先谢谢了!
MSN: pingbo@21cn.com

orchidheart 2005-11-21 18:14

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作者: sattva
我在这行已经弄了十五年了,感觉是:
1\学的东西大多没什么用,
2\做这个不象业务人员对行业有真正接触,虽然在很多行业都可以找到工作,但对任何一个行业都不真正了解,很难有自己的真正事业.
3\做这行大多是些琐碎的工作,看着好象成果不少,做了很多事,但觉得最终并没什么用,
4\不认为会计学可以作为一门科学,虽然试图用科学的方法来进行
5\觉得没有为人类做过什么,却吃了这多年饭.耻辱

还有,在别人看来,看得懂报表跟俺们多年本专业的没什么区别

我虽然工作时间不长,只有6年,但却一路做到了比较好的位置.虽然会计知识极度缺乏,没有任何证书,但是却要领导公司的财务部.财务类的考试,我是没有希望了,但是不干这行,在其他部门又挣不到现在的地位和金钱.证书,证书!!!!财务永远的痛啊!!!!是哪个人规定财务一定要不断的考证,苦就一个字!!!白领中的体力劳动!!!

瞌睡虫 2005-11-22 10:39

my mail is xiaoyu_li@hotmail.com

我也是误打误撞进了这个行业,曾经很反感这种工作, 但是有点象温水中加热的青蛙,自己的体温在升高, 也在适应, 最终没有被烫死而已.

其实任何你喜欢的东西, 变成职业以后就不那样可爱了, 所以对我而言,会计只是一种专业和生存的手段. 我是那种对不喜欢的事物, 接触长时间以后也会产生感情的人, 做就做好, 否则沾都不沾.

坦白讲, 做了会计这一行, 性格多少也有了改变.有好的, 也有不好的.但是我觉得人活在这个世界上, 时间很短暂, 把兴趣和职业划等号, 是非常难得而可遇不可求的, 倒不如把眼前的事情先作好.何况真的兴趣也职业化了, 恐怕也就没有了先前的意思了, 比如我喜欢导演和电影, 但是如果我真的以此为职业的话, 我再去看电影时, 可能就无法身处其中充分享受乐趣而更多的精力去注意市场和观众的反映,关心票房收入和能否收回成本, 凡此种种, 令我对职业有了新的认识.

瞌睡虫 2005-11-28 10:58

无论如何, 俺11月26日参加了毕业典礼, 不过证书是薄薄的一张A3纸,有些失望,不好保存和携带,一直在想, 这就是俺4万多元的代价吗? 回想起ACCA的证书也是这样非常草率的一张纸,唉.有些茫然了.

xiaoyang 2005-11-30 11:46

看了大家的贴,也是我目前在深深考虑的,虽然以前学的主课是工业会计,可是一不小心转了行,一干就是好几年,会计的东西全还给老师了,再说以前学的与当今西方会计完全不同,为了今后的谋生,当地加拿大朋友主张我去继续上会计课程,但一看前面的贴子,真不知该如何走下去,请热心网友提些好建议。

Suzhou 2005-11-30 11:59

引用:

作者: xiaoyang
看了大家的贴,也是我目前在深深考虑的,虽然以前学的主课是工业会计,可是一不小心转了行,一干就是好几年,会计的东西全还给老师了,再说以前学的与当今西方会计完全不同,为了今后的谋生,当地加拿大朋友主张我去继续上会计课程,但一看前面的贴子,真不知该如何走下去,请热心网友提些好建议。

If you really decided to go to Canada, I would suggest you take the CGA programm and find an accounting job in an American or Canadian company before immigration.

I have been working in European companies for serveral years and also try to find a job in Canadian company in CHINA. I just registered in CGA program and also plan to take another American CMA program.

I believe working experience in Canadian company and certificates of CGA and CMA will benefit our future in Canada.

JIANLIN679 2005-11-30 13:03

那是因为你干的是比较低级的财务工作而已,到你能够掌控公司的发展方向或资源时,你就不会这样讲了,说白了,阶段不同
引用:

作者: sattva
我在这行已经弄了十五年了,感觉是:
1\学的东西大多没什么用,
2\做这个不象业务人员对行业有真正接触,虽然在很多行业都可以找到工作,但对任何一个行业都不真正了解,很难有自己的真正事业.
3\做这行大多是些琐碎的工作,看着好象成果不少,做了很多事,但觉得最终并没什么用,
4\不认为会计学可以作为一门科学,虽然试图用科学的方法来进行
5\觉得没有为人类做过什么,却吃了这多年饭.耻辱

还有,在别人看来,看得懂报表跟俺们多年本专业的没什么区别


高&瘦 2005-12-05 15:34

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作者: sattva
我一直觉得做会计是个比较耻辱的行业

我专业是财会,烤过了cpa,拥有一大堆职称证书
我也受不了枯燥的数字,耐不住寂寞
但当我转做管理时,发现会计理论和知识是如此有用,自己所学竞远远不够

在扯着嗓子嚷嚷前,我们真的又理解了多少~~~

xiaoyang 2005-12-05 17:38

thanks a lot to suzhou,i'm in canada now.

sattva 2005-12-06 11:22

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作者: JIANLIN679
那是因为你干的是比较低级的财务工作而已,到你能够掌控公司的发展方向或资源时,你就不会这样讲了,说白了,阶段不同


sattva 2005-12-06 11:27

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作者: 高&瘦
我专业是财会,烤过了cpa,拥有一大堆职称证书
我也受不了枯燥的数字,耐不住寂寞
但当我转做管理时,发现会计理论和知识是如此有用,自己所学竞远远不够

在扯着嗓子嚷嚷前,我们真的又理解了多少~~~

会计理论和知识对管理有用, 这句话我支持
CPA只是个非专业人花三四个月时间照样能全通过的东东,没什么用.CGA好一些,不是因为难考,我想应该更简单,而是因为教材可能编得好一些.

sattva 2005-12-06 11:28

前段时间故障上不来,今天 给大家加分分.

wenchao11 2005-12-11 20:12

痛苦的考证历程,听了大家的话,我还是打算到了那边在考...

tiantian 2005-12-16 16:26

加拿大要进入初级会计也要有证书,CGA!!

hahaxiao 2005-12-21 16:30

郁闷加晕菜,不知道到底该怎么办了。

Yuhua318 2009-08-04 11:30

请问在加拿大本土如何准备CGA考试?大家能给些建议吗?谢谢

annejp 2009-08-13 00:13

同样关注

mengailan 2009-08-13 18:17

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作者: 瞌睡虫 (帖子 393910)
TO Wyman,

我以前考过ACCA,考到一半, 转到了CGA,有些半图而费.
学了7门, 有的只写作业, 不考试, 需要看你的评估结果如何. 从02年初开考, 中间因病休息1年, 05年考完了.
觉得比较辛苦, 但与ACCA不同, CGA是平时辛苦, 考试放松, 而ACCA正相反, 书都看的非常明白, 拿来考题却不知所云.


那你ACCA 转到CGA什么level啊,合适吗:wdb18:

maggiexu001 2010-06-21 14:22

引用:

作者: sattva (帖子 396036)
我在这行已经弄了十五年了,感觉是:
1\学的东西大多没什么用,
2\做这个不象业务人员对行业有真正接触,虽然在很多行业都可以找到工作,但对任何一个行业都不真正了解,很难有自己的真正事业.
3\做这行大多是些琐碎的工作,看着好象成果不少,做了很多事,但觉得最终并没什么用,
4\不认为会计学可以作为一门科学,虽然试图用科学的方法来进行
5\觉得没有为人类做过什么,却吃了这多年饭.耻辱

还有,在别人看来,看得懂报表跟俺们多年本专业的没什么区别

同感:wdb14:

zhuanyiluobo 2010-06-26 01:31

Very good,thanks.