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amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#1
I have an apartment located in east of montreal for rent, and I put ads on website, yesterday I got an email from somebody who is intersted in this apartment. but I don't know if this client is a real one or not, I am afraid of being cheated. so i will post his email here and would like to listening to your opnion. thanks

Thanks for your response and here is a brief introduction about my self.I am a Pharmacist by profession and I am currently working with the Woodstock Pharmacy, Woodstock,United States. I will be relocating to Canada for the next one year and during my stay i will be working for the United States Implants & orthopedic Agency on a private research work. I hereby reaffirm my interest about renting your apartment and will be willing to offer you one month rent for a start, plus the security deposit in order to secure the unit prior to our arrival to Canada.I have a financier based in the States and he will be the one handling the rent and deposit payment on our behalf,i will instruct him to send you a bank Check in payment for the rent as soon as you give me the go ahead to send payment to you. I'll be coming with my wife and daughter.Due to the limited time that we have before our arrival and in line with my work schedule ,we are making arrangements with a furniture company to supply the home with furnitures ,so we will need you to provide us with the accurate measurements of the living room and bedroom so that we can send it to the furniture company and they supply the unit with furniture that would fit in well... i would really appreciaite it if you could send me some pictures of the living room and the bed rooms.
As regards the lease agreement form,you can have it forwarded to me for review.though i will have it filled and signed on our arrival to your place becuase i am of the opinion that such vital document is best filled and signed physically. We can start the lease by the start of April and it shall be for a period of 12 months. You can prepare the lease in my name and that of my wife (Dr.David & Mary Berger)Let me know how to move ahead as I intend to complete this deal before I move in a couple of days. I want all the arrangement to be solidified so I settle in comfortably when I arrive. I will let you know the exact date as soon as I get a booking on a flight to Canada.I will look forward to your e mail with the required information.Here is my phone number....xxxxxxx

Thanks and sincere regards from me and my precious family. I await your urgent response.
Dr David

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#2
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please forgive me that i couldn't write chinses here.

waitingh : 2012-02-19#3
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It's hard to say it's real intention or not, but at least this guy seems to be not a very easy guy. Better try another one.

DancingElf : 2012-02-19#4
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这个十有八九是假的。我们出租房子的时候,也碰到过差不多的事情,对 方说是英国relocate过来的,也是说可以先给钱,而且从雇主方打钱过来。我们依惯例让他填表进行credit check,他就消失了。

你不论是租房子给谁,credit check是必不可少的。我们登出广告后看房子的人络绎不绝,有的还很push,说另一个房东同意租给他了,但他更喜欢我们的房子,要求我们第二天就给他答复。

但我们的原则是,不管什么人,都要进行credit check。另外要留下reference,就是你说你在哪儿工作,那么留下雇主的电话。

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#5
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这个十有八九是假的。我们出租房子的时候,也碰到过差不多的事情,对 方说是英国relocate过来的,也是说可以先给钱,而且从雇主方打钱过来。我们依惯例让他填表进行credit check,他就消失了。

你不论是租房子给谁,credit check是必不可少的。我们登出广告后看房子的人络绎不绝,有的还很push,说另一个房东同意租给他了,但他更喜欢我们的房子,要求我们第二天就给他答复。

但我们的原则是,不管什么人,都要进行credit check。另外要留下reference,就是你说你在哪儿工作,那么留下雇主的电话。

how to do credit check?

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#6
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It's hard to say it's real intention or not, but at least this guy seems to be not a very easy guy. Better try another one.

can you tell me why this guy seems to be not a very easy guy?

waitingh : 2012-02-19#7
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can you tell me why this guy seems to be not a very easy guy?
My personal guess only. He talks a little bit too much even as a potential customers at very beginning. What if when there is a real dispute later on, you should think it over that you do really have enough time and energy get around with this guy?

Another suspicious thing is he offers deposit money so actively, which is rare from a tenant's view.

As already suggested by others, go credit check for this guy, if you want to have this guy in. Or, find somebody else also with credit check.

pcbat : 2012-02-19#8
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发不了中文就去英文论坛上发...

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#9
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发不了中文就去英文论坛上发...
where is it?

B-a-King : 2012-02-19#10
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where is it?

kijiji

B-a-King : 2012-02-19#11
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this is a scam for sure. if i am a tenant, i won't think about giving you any money deposit before you ask me to do so. it's very easy to find a house or apartment here in Canada if you really need to rent one.

Encore une fois : 2012-02-19#12
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this is a scam for sure. if i am a tenant, i won't think about giving you any money deposit before you ask me to do so. it's very easy to find a house or apartment here in Canada if you really need to rent one.

对,不符合常理。而且类似的租房骗局几年前论坛就有人碰到过,也是说从哪个哪个地方RELOCATE过来的,也是说先付钱,然后问要银行账户打款,后来扯上空头支票LZ还得自掏腰包填补之类的,大概是这个意思,具体我也不记得了。

BRASSEURS : 2012-02-19#13
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对,不符合常理。而且类似的租房骗局几年前论坛就有人碰到过,也是说从哪个哪个地方RELOCATE过来的,也是说先付钱,然后问要银行账户打款,后来扯上空头支票LZ还得自掏腰包填补之类的,大概是这个意思,具体我也不记得了。
人家没有要你的银行信息啊。人家是做好了BANK CHEQUE寄给你。BANK CHEQUE 也叫 MONEY ORDER ,那是银行出的钱。
LZ不放心,可以要他授权,调查他from他的雇主和他的现任房东。都是发信,对方回复是会承担法律责任的。

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#14
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thanks for all answers of you guys. this is his another email:

In response to the rent and deposit required to be paid in order to secure the rental of your home prior to our arrival to Canada,i would be needing some information from you to be forwarded to my financier so as to make payment to you as soon as possible..i will have the informations forwarded to my financier stating an instruction of payment to you. further more i need you to reconfirm the total move in costs,that is;the rent and deposit to be paid and if there are any other additional bills to be payed do not fail to notify me so that all payment can be sent to you at once.
You can have your information in which payment can be sent to you by my financier in this form

* Home/office address...........
* Payee name to be written on the check......
* Current cell phone/ office phone number......

Due regards from me and my family,we are loooking forward to meeting you.

what do you guys think about it? by the way, i asked to have a credit check in another email, but he didn't metion it at all

Encore une fois : 2012-02-19#15
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人家没有要你的银行信息啊。人家是做好了BANK CHEQUE寄给你。BANK CHEQUE 也叫 MONEY ORDER ,那是银行出的钱。
LZ不放心,可以要他授权,调查他from他的雇主和他的现任房东。都是发信,对方回复是会承担法律责任的。

我不记得具体是怎样操作的,就是涉及到支票,最后就没好果子吃。不信走着瞧。

Encore une fois : 2012-02-19#16
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what do you guys think about it? by the way, i asked to have a credit check in another email, but he didn't metion it at all-----再逼一逼他,要重点,大家等着看骗子结局呢

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#17
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what do you guys think about it? by the way, i asked to have a credit check in another email, but he didn't metion it at all-----再逼一逼他,要重点,大家等着看骗子结局呢

how? tell me how to get more information?

Encore une fois : 2012-02-19#18
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how? tell me how to get more information?

你不是说他只字不提那个什么吗,push push 他给你

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#19
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what do you guys think about it? by the way, i asked to have a credit check in another email, but he didn't metion it at all-----再逼一逼他,要重点,大家等着看骗子结局呢

how? how to get more information ?

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#20
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你不是说他只字不提那个什么吗,push push 他给你

but he told me it is his finacier to pay the check.

doremee : 2012-02-19#21
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I have an apartment located in east of montreal for rent, and I put ads on website, yesterday I got an email from somebody who is intersted in this apartment. but I don't know if this client is a real one or not, I am afraid of being cheated. so i will post his email here and would like to listening to your opnion. thanks

Thanks for your response and here is a brief introduction about my self.I am a Pharmacist by profession and I am currently working with the Woodstock Pharmacy, Woodstock,United States. I will be relocating to Canada for the next one year and during my stay i will be working for the United States Implants & orthopedic Agency on a private research work. I hereby reaffirm my interest about renting your apartment and will be willing to offer you one month rent for a start, plus the security deposit in order to secure the unit prior to our arrival to Canada.I have a financier based in the States and he will be the one handling the rent and deposit payment on our behalf,i will instruct him to send you a bank Check in payment for the rent as soon as you give me the go ahead to send payment to you. I'll be coming with my wife and daughter.Due to the limited time that we have before our arrival and in line with my work schedule ,we are making arrangements with a furniture company to supply the home with furnitures,
so we will need you to provide us with the accurate measurements of the living room and bedroom so that we can send it to the furniture company and they supply the unit with furniture that would fit in well...

i would really appreciaite it if you could send me some pictures of the living room and the bed rooms.

As regards the lease agreement form,you can have it forwarded to me for review.though i will have it filled and signed on our arrival to your place becuase i am of the opinion that such vital document is best filled and signed physically. We can start the lease by the start of April and it shall be for a period of 12 months. You can prepare the lease in my name and that of my wife (Dr.David & Mary Berger)

Let me know how to move ahead as I intend to complete this deal before I move in a couple of days. I want all the arrangement to be solidified so I settle in comfortably when I arrive. I will let you know the exact date as soon as I get a booking on a flight to Canada.I will look forward to your e mail with the required information.Here is my phone number....xxxxxxx

Thanks and sincere regards from me and my precious family. I await your urgent response.
Dr David


1) photos of your rental condo
he can pretend to own the condo for rent
post the pictures on craiglist,
and ask for deposits from as many innocent renters as he can get

2) Lease agreement
it contains your address and your personal information .... ID theft


amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#22
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我不记得具体是怎样操作的,就是涉及到支票,最后就没好果子吃。不信走着瞧。

who knows how they work it out?

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#23
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1) photos of your rental condo
he can pretend to own the condo for rent
post the pictures on craiglist,
and ask for deposits from as many innocent renters as he can get

2) Lease agreement
it contains your address and your personal information .... ID theft

yes, i sent him the photo, you know i post this ads on craiglist.

i sent him my name, address and phone number

what will happen? it drave me crazy so far

amyz8299 : 2012-02-19#24
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by the way, he gave me his phone number, but i didn't call. and i checked that phone number, it is a land line, i guess it means not cell phone. right?

waitingh : 2012-02-19#25
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yes, i sent him the photo, you know i post this ads on craiglist.

i sent him my name, address and phone number

what will happen? it drave me crazy so far
What you should do is no contact with this man again, to minimize your any possible lost. Do not give him any pieces of information further, especially bank information. It should be a lesson for you, though you seem to hope having rental income coming in soon.

Encore une fois : 2012-02-19#26
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哎,我也没什么主意了,不过如果我是你就直接告诉他太麻烦不租了,或者说其他有意向的租户已经给你下现金定金了,如果他不能过来给你现金你就租给其他人了,机不可失失不再来,每个人在金钱的面前都是奴隶

amyz8299 : 2012-02-20#27
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this is his new email, now i think he starts to show something real.

Hello,
I have discussed the issue of payment with my financier and he assured me that the payment would be sent to you very soon,so please be expectant....Concerning the furnitures i ordered for,i would like the furnitures to be delivered to the house and arranged before our arrival to the state so that we can settle in comfortably
Please you would be of great help to us, we are relying on you to take delivery of the furniture on our behalf once the futrnitures are been brought over to be delivered... i will have the furniture company contact you so as to schedule a delivery date and time that will be most convenient for you to receive the furniture
for us.
As you will be handling the delivery of the furniture on our behalf ,i will instruct my financier to include the cost incured for the furnitures ordered for along with the rent & deposit payment to be sent to you, so you can help us out in making payment on delivery to the furniture company. We will really appreciate if you can do this for us and promise to compensate you adequately for your time and efforts on our arrival in your place.
Please let me know if this will be okay with you so that i can instruct our financier to go ahead with the payment.Do have a wonderful new week.
Yours Sincerely,
David

first of all, my apartment is in montreal, not states. secondly, he askes me to pay the furniture. what would you think?

Esq. : 2012-02-20#28
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what would you think?

:wdb23:还没明白过来哪?他们送来一堆劣质家具,你付钱,然后他们就消失了。

soleil_lee-太阳李 : 2012-02-20#29
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The poster is so naive.

Obviously, it was just a copy-paste from his email to another landlord and he even didn't bother to correct the country name.

His trick is truly stupid.

BRASSEURS : 2012-02-20#30
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The poster is so naive.

Obviously, it was just a copy-paste from his email to another landlord and he even didn't bother to correct the country name.

His trick is truly stupid.
是的。狐狸的尾巴开始露了。接着玩,,,

无厘头 : 2012-02-20#31
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绝对不要代付。。。

租约还没签就要求搬家俱进房子? 很有问题。。。

amyz8299 : 2012-02-20#32
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i insisted to do credit check before moving on. he said yes, you could do it when he moved in. so i told him we both were wasting each other's time. he said no that i could phone his pre landlord, so i said ok gave me her phone number and name. all those conversation happened this morning, so far i didn't get any more answer, i will keep on posting his email if he replies.

amyz8299 : 2012-02-20#33
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but one thing i am curios is how he could get money from this.

(还没明白过来哪?他们送来一堆劣质家具,你付钱,然后他们就消失了)。this is one possibillity. is there another one?

B-a-King : 2012-02-20#34
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i insisted to do credit check before moving on. he said yes, you could do it when he moved in. so i told him we both were wasting each other's time. he said no that i could phone his pre landlord, so i said ok gave me her phone number and name. all those conversation happened this morning, so far i didn't get any more answer, i will keep on posting his email if he replies.

See, it's the same scam as that widely known by the public. You must PAY sth with your pocket-----this is WHAT he wants---- MONEY ----- going to the specified "furniture company". Then he will disappear for sure after receiving the money.

Could you pls go ahead with the game just by asking why his finance manager can't pay the "company" he specified for his own "furnitures" directly? Let's see what will happen.

B-a-King : 2012-02-20#35
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Just simply copy some sentences from this letter, and Google it, you may see below:

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You will not have to buy furniture now. .... on you to take delivery of the furniture on our behalf once the futrnitures are been brought over to be delivered... i will have the furniture company contact you so as to schedule a delivery date and time that will be most convenient for you to receive the furniture for us.

B-a-King : 2012-02-20#36
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2008年就有的骗局,还浪费时间,洗洗睡吧。

B-a-King : 2012-02-20#37
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is it true?

----yes, an internet scam!

oops : 2012-02-20#38
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but one thing i am curios is how he could get money from this.

(还没明白过来哪?他们送来一堆劣质家具,你付钱,然后他们就消失了)。this is one possibillity. is there another one?

家具到不一定是劣质的,总之钱你是要付的,然后对方的支票会是空头支票,就这么简单,前段时间家园上面还有个帖子说这个事情,也是房主急于出租,差点儿就上当了,还是西联的办事人员比较警觉,避免了损失。

想出租房也要租给能看得见的人啊,这飘洋过海的,明摆着要阴你的啊。

amyz8299 : 2012-02-23#39
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he sent me check($6550) by ups today and asked me to deposite then cash back him some of money. i had it check with bank,, it is a totally fake, and i will call the police to stop this fraude. the bank will take them to the criminal court(something like this) aslo. this is an organized crime, the telephone number of canada antifraude is
705-495-8501; email address is info@centreanitfraude.ca

Encore une fois : 2012-02-25#40
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he sent me check($6550) by ups today and asked me to deposite then cash back him some of money. i had it check with bank,, it is a totally fake, and i will call the police to stop this fraude. the bank will take them to the criminal court(something like this) aslo. this is an organized crime, the telephone number of canada antifraude is
705-495-8501; email address is info@centreanitfraude.ca

哈哈,我都说了最终就是关于用支票来调你银行钱的,这年头哪有这么好的事,还好LZ上来问,这样的骗局如果对于一些粗心大意太相信人的看到支票就贪心的人来说起码10个有1个上当。

Encore une fois : 2012-02-25#41
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不过骗子浪费一份UPS快递钱倒是真的