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乞请我朝礼部跟康尼部长商量点事儿

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/594247/

今我来思 : 2012-08-29#1
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“有些鸟注定是关不住的,因为他们的羽毛太鲜亮了。”




跪求大家通过自己的邮箱给保守党政要们发信,诉说苦情,呼吁关注北京使馆的问题,包括打分的,没打分的,总之,关注我们北京使馆的事,快快办理为好,免得夜长梦多。我们很快就不再年轻,五年时光无法倒流。这样空耗下去,等我们白发苍苍的时候,拿什么跟家小们吹嘘“老子当年”呢?

该宣传真相的时候了,或者说,已经太晚了,因为这些议员们稀里糊涂被康尼部长为国家经济利益效力的煽情演说所打动,就在国会投了c-38一票!




以前信息:
我向加拿大政界要人写信反映情况了。邹至蕙和麦克.林顿都诚恳作答并告知我,他们不能越权越过自己的辖区管事,更不能为我一人说话。新民主党负责听取这方面意见的是Jinny Sims. 我打算周末写信,有谁知道北京的加拿大使馆的91积案中打分又体检的有几人,打分没体检的几人,递交完材料等了两年没审的有几人?我反映问题不能只说我自己的事,只能呼吁政界人士关注北京的加拿大使馆对待这群人(30万一刀切切剩下的)事。

闲扯两句题外话:

我们大家都学过《孔雀东南飞》,刘兰芝和焦仲卿恩恩爱爱,可是焦仲卿的母亲却对儿媳横挑鼻子竖挑眼,要把儿媳休了。焦仲卿可怜巴巴低声下气地跪求母亲:“儿已薄禄相,幸复得此妇。结发同枕席,黄泉共为友。共事二三年,始尔未为久。女行无偏斜,何意致不厚。”

焦仲卿的母亲这样回答说:“何乃太区区!此妇无礼节,举动自专由。吾意久怀忿,汝岂得自由!东家有贤女,自名秦罗敷。可怜体无比,阿母为汝求。便可速遣之,遣去慎莫留!”
仔细想想,焦母的确懂人情世故,那就是:既然我已经得罪儿媳了,又转念留她在家,儿媳还是对我有怨恨,不会跟我一心,倒不如赶走了事。
可是,焦仲卿还是认识不到,他以为求告多次就有效,于是长跪告:“伏惟启阿母。今若遣此妇,终老不复取!”
焦仲卿母亲不买账,听了儿子这话,就槌床便大怒:“小子无所畏,何敢助妇语!吾已失恩义,会不相从许!”
人情世故如此,古今中外都不例外。我们北京91的,按照正常进度3年就结案了,拖这么久,再遭拖的,恐怕还是咱们。

cogcn : 2012-08-29#2
回复: 频问康尼终不答,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸

我们联名吧,算我一个。北京91, 2007年10月FN,所有条件均符合OB42

今我来思 : 2012-08-30#3
回复: 频问康尼终不答,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸

我们联名吧,算我一个。北京91, 2007年10月FN,所有条件均符合OB42
好。怎么联法?英文好的可以给个参考内容啊,我对自己写英文信还是觉得没把握,虽然我中文马马虎虎。

wpplovechun : 2012-08-30#4
回复: 频问康尼终不答,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸

我属于递交完材料等了两年没审的,算我一个

tigerlilyxh : 2012-08-30#5
回复: 频问康尼终不答,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸

好。怎么联法?英文好的可以给个参考内容啊,我对自己写英文信还是觉得没把握,虽然我中文马马虎虎。

你写吧,汉语也行,我可以翻译。我也是91,打分了,体检表也放进去了,2009年12月就打分了。不过这两天出差,可能不会很快查,不过只要上网,就过来看看

今我来思 : 2012-08-30#6
回复: 频问康尼终不答,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸

你写吧,汉语也行,我可以翻译。我也是91,打分了,体检表也放进去了,2009年12月就打分了。不过这两天出差,可能不会很快查,不过只要上网,就过来看看
白天上班,晚上回家写草稿。很快出炉。
wo

今我来思 : 2012-09-01#7
回复: 频问康尼终不答,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸

你写吧,汉语也行,我可以翻译。我也是91,打分了,体检表也放进去了,2009年12月就打分了。不过这两天出差,可能不会很快查,不过只要上网,就过来看看
帮忙改改表达和内容上是否有不对头的地方,以下是草稿:
Dear (大人物姓名),
We applied for immigration to Canada as skilled worker since 2007 through Canada Embassy of Beijing. We have submitted all our notarized documents to the embassy 2 or 3 years ago for the Visa Officers to review and process.
However, after half a decade’s waiting, we got to know we became backlog which gums up to Canada’s immigration system as honorable Minister Jason Kenney pointed out in many public occasions. We have been waiting for half a decade while seeing other late comer applicants to get Visa and residency much earlier than us. Our eyes are full of tears and we want an explanation from honorable CIC Minister Jason Kenny.
Among us, for the life planning of immigration to Canada, we have paid a lot. Some lost promotion opportunities at their present working place; some were even dismissed by their bosses because the bosses thought they could not concentrate on their current job anymore if they had had plan to immigrate to Canada; some had suffered extort and had to pay bribe to the boss when they asked the boss to stamp on the certificate of their working experience; some resigned from their job for they were so eager to improve their English and get excellent IELTS score to meet Canada’ selection criteria ;some sadly parted with their life partners who they loved very much actually; some missed the best house-buying opportunities for they want to keep their savings for the future Canada life. Unfortunately, the house price has gone up and tripled the price of 5 years ago.
There are around 2000 of us who have been waiting for half a decade in Canada Embassy of Beijing. Since CIC declared the 2013 reform plan and expressed its decision of dealing with the backlog in the end of June, the first thing to do for us everyday is to read the news and look for what Minister Jason Kenny said on the news media . But 2 months have past, we have seen nobody’s file is processed except the several people who had sued to him and won the litigation .
We would appreciate your help very much if you take some time to talk with Minister Jason Kenny about this issue.
Best Regards


Truly Yours
(自己的姓名 )

今我来思 : 2012-09-02#8
回复: 频问康尼终不语,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸

Jinny.Sims@parl.gc.ca <Jinny.Sims@parl.gc.ca>

Jinny Sims 是新民主党管听取意见的,她也表达过同情我们的观点,会把我们的信传达给加拿大民主党党魁,然后,就可以让当今圣上(今上)知道了。
Backlog:[FONT=宋体]名词[/FONT] n. [FONT=宋体]未完成订单[/FONT], [FONT=宋体]未结订单[/FONT] ([FONT=宋体]所有已收到但尚未发货的客户订单[/FONT])
Gum up :[FONT=宋体]搞糟[/FONT];[FONT=宋体]搞乱
[/FONT]
Don't gum up the work by telling Mother what we are going to do. [FONT=宋体]
[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]别告诉母亲我们要干的事[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]那会把事情搞糟的。[/FONT] [FONT=宋体][/FONT]

今我来思 : 2012-09-02#9
"Hon. Jason Kenney, M.P." <Jason.Kenney@parl.gc.ca>(注意了,红字部分是移民部长康尼的几个不同的的邮箱), "Hon. Jason Kenney, P.C., M.P." <calgary@jasonkenney.com >, "Hon. Jason Kenney, P.C., M.P." <Kenney.J@parl.gc.ca>,

今我来思 : 2012-09-03#10
回复: 频问康尼终不语,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸--给保守党

中文大致意思和英文定稿如下,此处似乎无法复制,若有需要可发信给我,我立即发邮件附送。
[FONT=宋体]请愿信 (中文翻译英文信大意,顺便自娱自乐。 跪求发给保守党要人,地址家园网北京技术移民论坛上有,千万别把中文的也发了)[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体] 内容:[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]兹有我辈,07年申请加国移民,迄今已有五年余,公证书类全交齐,只等签证官去审理。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]一晃5年过去了,忽闻移民部长有指示,我们已经成积案,搞糟加国移民体系。移民部长这样讲,我们人人心悲苦。眼看后来者早办好,全家飞越太平洋。这厢不知等到啥年月,泪眼汪汪。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]移民加国梦想由来久,全家种种计划多。为此牺牲一言难尽,苦不堪言:有失去提升机会者;有被现任老板解雇者,叱之曰既然心已走,此处不强留;有被雇主索取礼物者,概因工作证明文书大印由他出;有毅然决然辞去工作者,不分昼夜学英语,势要考出好成绩;有与相爱伴侣分手者,魂牵梦绕心戚戚;有为圆梦赴加储蓄者,痛失国内买房良机,如今房价涨3倍,徘徊空房长叹息。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]北京使馆我辈有两千余,5年之后听闻部长改革声,天天早起看新闻,如今两月又过去了,迟迟不见真动静。只有三两同窗辈,靠判官Mandamus得福音。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]万望大人多关注,恳请与部长大人传口信。这厢有礼了!再拜稽首![/FONT]




[FONT=宋体]Dear (大人物名字),[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  We have applied for immigration to Canada as skilled worker since 2007 through Canada Embassy of Beijing. We have submitted all our notarized documents to the Embassy 2 or 3 years ago for the Visa Officers to review and process.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  However, after more than half a decade’s waiting, we got to know we became “backlog” which gums up to Canadian immigration system as honorable Minister Jason Kenney pointed out in many public occasions. We have been waiting for more than half a decade while seeing other late-comer applicants to get Visa and residency to Canada much earlier than us. Our eyes are full of tears and we want an proper explanation from honorable CIC Minister Jason Kenny.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  Among us, for the life planning of immigration to Canada, we have paid a lot. Some lost promotion opportunities at their present working place; some were even dismissed by their bosses because their bosses thought they could not concentrate on their current job anymore; some had suffered extort from their bosses and had to pay bribery to the bosses when they asked the bosses to stamp on the certificates of their working experience; some resigned from their job for they were so eager to improve their English and obtain excellent IELTS scores to meet CIC selection criteria ;some sadly parted with their life partners who they loved very much actually; some missed the best house-buying opportunities for they have been always keeping their savings for the future Canada life. Unfortunately, now the house price has gone up and tripled the price of 5 years ago.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  There are around 2000 of us who have been waiting for half a decade in Canada Embassy of Beijing. Since CIC declared the 2013 reform plan and expressed its decision of dealing with the backlog in the end of June, the first thing to do for us everyday is to read the news and look for what Minister Jason Kenny said on the news media . But 2 months have past, we have seen nobody’s file is processed except the several people who had sued to him and won the litigation.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  We would appreciate your help very much if you take some time to talk with Minister Jason Kenny about this issue.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  Best Regards[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  Truly Yours[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  (name )[/FONT]

jaredwang : 2012-09-03#11
回复: 频问康尼终不语,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸--给保守党

写的挺好的,真的代表了我们的心声。同时感觉人家真是爷,玩人真跟玩孙子一样。

今我来思 : 2012-09-03#12
回复: 频问康尼终不语,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸--给保守党

以下为定稿,感谢坛子里TX英语高手帮我修改,大家可根据自己情况再添加适当个人内容:
[FONT=宋体]请愿信 [/FONT]
[FONT=宋体](中文翻译英文信之大意,为大家一目了然,也是自娱自乐。 跪求发给保守党要人,地址家园网上有,千万别把中文的也发了)[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体] 大致内容:[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]兹有我辈,07年申请加国移民,迄今已有五年余,公证书类全交齐,只等签证官去审理。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]一晃5年过去了,忽闻移民部长有指示,我们已经成积案,搞糟加国移民体系。移民部长这样讲,我们人人心悲苦。眼看后来者早办好,全家飞越太平洋。这厢不知等到啥年月,泪眼汪汪。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]移民加国梦想由来久,全家种种计划多。为此牺牲一言难尽,苦不堪言。有失去提升机会者;有被现任老板解雇者,叱之曰既然心已走,此处不强留;有被雇主索取礼物者,概因工作证明文书大印由他出;有毅然决然辞去工作者,不分昼夜学英语,势要考出好成绩;有与相爱伴侣分手者,魂牵梦绕心戚戚。有为圆梦赴加储蓄者,痛失买房良机,如今房价涨3倍,徘徊空房长叹息。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]北京使馆我辈有两千余,5年之后听闻部长改革声,天天早起看新闻,如今两月又过去了,迟迟不见真动静。只有三两同窗辈,靠判官批示得福音。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]万望大人加关注,恳请与部长大人传口信。这厢有礼了!再拜稽首![/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]英文信定稿:[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]Dear (大人物名字),[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]We applied for immigration to Canada as skilled workers in 2007 through the Canadian Embassy of Beijing. We have submitted all our notarized documents to the embassy 2 or 3 years ago for the Visa Officers to review and process.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]However, after more than half a decade of waiting, we got to know ,as honorable Minister Jason Kenney pointed out in many public occasions, we have become backlog which gums up to Canada’s immigration system as honorable Minister Jason Kenney pointed out in many public occasions. We have been waiting for more than half a decade while seeing other late-comer applicants getting their Visa and residency much earlier than us. Our eyes are full of tears and we want an proper explanation from honorable CIC Minister Jason Kenny.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]Among us, for planning the life of immigration to Canada, we have paid a lot. Some lost promotion opportunities at their present working place; some were even dismissed by their bosses because their bosses thought they could not concentrate on their current job anymore if they has plans to immigrate to canada; some had suffered extort from their bosses and had to pay bribery to their bosses when they asked the boss to stamp on the certificate of their working experience; some resigned from their job for they were eager to improve their English and get excellent IELTS score to meet CIC’s selection criteria ;some sadly parted with their life partners who they loved very much actually; some missed the best house-buying opportunities because they wanted to keep their savings for the future life in Canada . Unfortunately, now the house price has gone up and tripled compared to the price of 5 years ago.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  There are around 2000 of us who have been waiting for more than half a decade in the Canadian Embassy of Beijing. Since CIC declared the 2013 reform plan and expressed its decision of dealing with the backlog in the end of June, the first thing we have been doing everyday is to read the news and look for what Minister Jason Kenny said on the news media . But more than 2 months have past, we have not seen anybody’s file being processed except the several people who had sued him and won the litigation.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]  We would appreciate your help very much if you could take some time to talk with Minister Jason Kenny about this issue.[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体][/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]Best Regards[/FONT]


[FONT=宋体]   Truly Yours[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]   ( 发信人署名 )[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体] [/FONT]

今我来思 : 2012-09-03#13
回复: 频问康尼终不语,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸--给保守党

写的挺好的,真的代表了我们的心声。同时感觉人家真是爷,玩人真跟玩孙子一样。
保守党现在是占多数,想立什么法都能通过。但保守党里面该有一些不知情的,也有一些会同情我们的,我们得表达出来啊,要是被打掉牙自己吞咽了,别人管那闲事干嘛?别说加拿大保守党,就是咱们的党,管咱们这事吗?外交部去抗议?玩儿去!所以,咱们自己先得把自己当人看,自己的事自己干,发信!

今我来思 : 2012-09-03#14
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

懒人可以用懒办法,开头称呼不用写名字,直接“Dear Sir/Madame 就打发了。就是邮箱地址要复制正确。

jaredwang : 2012-09-03#15
回复: 频问康尼终不语,空留众人啼声哀,小民我无奈何拦轿递状纸--给保守党

保守党现在是占多数,想立什么法都能通过。但保守党里面该有一些不知情的,也有一些会同情我们的,我们得表达出来啊,要是被打掉牙自己吞咽了,别人管那闲事干嘛?别说加拿大保守党,就是咱们的党,管咱们这事吗?外交部去抗议?玩儿去!所以,咱们自己先得把自己当人看,自己的事自己干,发信!
恩。很喜欢你的热情与激情。:wdb17:她那边诉讼,你这边发信。我一保守派两边都深表支持,不过我一葛朗台伪君子只动口不动手。:wdb14:期待您们的好消息,盼望吃葡萄,摘桃子,天上掉馅饼。:wdb26:

今我来思 : 2012-09-03#16
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

楼上的,我们是不同的性格。没有对不对。加拿大是法治国家,最后结果看法院判决。移民部执行判决。申请人等着不动也可能有好的结局。再说,路见不平管闲事的人多了,现在法院两个阵营的律师都吵翻了天,据说,都得用麦克风发言,大家抢麦克风。
只有法官像还没睡醒。

jaredwang : 2012-09-04#17
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

恩。至少你尊重别人的选择。On the other hand,很欣赏你的勇气和作为,如果我的情况不那么特殊,我也会参战的。我现在主要的想法是,那么操蛋的地方,我都懒的去了。得我再自我否定下。

今我来思 : 2012-09-04#18
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

恩。至少你尊重别人的选择。On the other hand,很欣赏你的勇气和作为,如果我的情况不那么特殊,我也会参战的。我现在主要的想法是,那么操蛋的地方,我都懒的去了。得我再自我否定下。
不要那么容易就感到失望。加拿大在这件事上是很不像话,但是公平是争来的,要争取,虽然很不利,赶上他们的一党专政。但他们还有法院一关啊。法院也看民意。

拂晓迷彩 : 2012-09-04#19
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

算我一个,09年5月S2,09年6月就给我打分了,10年11月体检表入档,但就是拖着不给我

今我来思 : 2012-09-04#20
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

算我一个,09年5月S2,09年6月就给我打分了,10年11月体检表入档,但就是拖着不给我
:wdb9:民主和公平要争取!至少加拿大不会把上访反映意见啥的都送去劳教。。。活摘。。。

今我来思 : 2012-09-04#21
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

给大家转一个微博热传:
移民加入美国要考公民常识,其中一个问题:“美国是法治国家,这是什么意思?”所有中国人的回答都是:“公民必须守法”。但美国给的标准答案是:“政府必须守法”。美国之所以是法治国家,就是因为它要求每个公民及移民行使监督政府的权利,来确保政府权力受到约束。

今我来思 : 2012-09-05#22
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

如果有政要---他们都是国会的,回信来问,“亲爱的发信人,你的地址是什么?可以告诉我吗?”这并不是说,他要来抓人,而是想知道发信人所住的地区归不归他管辖,他可能以为是已经住在加拿大的人来找他帮忙。因此,可以告诉他,我住在中国的大体上某某地方。事情是这样的。。。。感谢回复。。。

今我来思 : 2012-09-05#23
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

国会议员特别强调哪个辖区,一个议员分管一片,如果咱们哪个辖区也不属于,应当说明,是中国的,不在加拿大。以下是一个模版式的回复,请参考:
Thank you for contacting the office of Dr. Kellie Leitch, Member of Parliament for SimcoeGrey.

Your questions and concerns are very important and every effort is made to respond in a timely fashion.

If your email does not contain your full contact information, please provide us with your full address, including postal code, and phone number.

Kellie would like to ensure her constituents are well served. Due to the high volume of correspondence received, priority is given to residents of the SimcoeGrey riding.

For constituents(选民), if your matter requires urgent attention, please call or visit one of the constituency offices in Collingwood or Alliston. The constituency offices can be reached by phone at 1-866-435-1809.

If you are not a constituent, you are welcome to write to us with your concerns and opinions; however, we strongly urge you to contact your Member of Parliament directly.

For administrative purposes, please specify the reason for your contact outside of your home riding(所在管辖区). This will assist us in working with your email.

Thank you for writing,

今我来思 : 2012-09-05#24
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,大方表诉求!!

大家集思广益,已经有议员回信,要求以下内容,怎么回答?
Can you provide more detailed information? We need complete names, date of birth,immigration number,address,what type of work you are seeking,etc.

Thanks
Anne

今我来思 : 2012-09-05#25
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,向议员大方表诉求!!

大家看,我们的公开信今天放在康尼部长案头:
  Thank you for writing. Your correspondence has been sent to Minister Kenney.
  Please send us your full mailing address.
  Thank you.
  Sincerely,

今我来思 : 2012-09-05#26
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?政要地址全在此,向议员大方表诉求!!

 这封信:
 On behalf of Mr. James Rajotte, Member of Parliament for Edmonton-Leduc, I would like to acknowledge receipt of your email and thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with him.
  Please be assured that your correspondence will be brought to Mr. Rajotte's attention at the earliest opportunity and that your views will be carefully considered.
  To cancel all the applications in the back log has not been completely finalized yet. If it happens you will be notified by the Canadian Embassy in Beijing and your application fee will be refunded.(就是说,还没有happen,要是李希律师的动议通过了,对参加诉讼的人根本没法happen)
  

今我来思 : 2012-09-06#27
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?大家快发!!公卿欲为我们表诉求!!

[FONT=宋体]林肯:正像我不想做奴隶一样,我也不愿做主人,这就是我的民主思想。任 何与此不同的东西,都绝对不是民主。[/FONT]
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[FONT=宋体]孟德斯鸠:在专制国家里,人的命运跟牲畜一样,就是本能、服从和惩罚。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体][/FONT]
[FONT=宋体][/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]丘吉尔:邪恶之所以显现出力量,不是它真有力量,是善良的人不站出来。[/FONT]

今我来思 : 2012-09-06#28
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?大家快发!!公卿欲为我们表诉求!!

保守党里也有好官,你们看下面的回信,人家保证把我的信送到部长那里,还要回执,还要保证部长给我回信,他一路监督:
  Thank you for emailing the office of Peter Goldring, MP for Edmonton East. I am forwarding your email to Minister Kenny’s office and am requesting that a response be sent to you as well as our office.
  Sincerely
  

今我来思 : 2012-09-07#29
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前方战事紧,后方须声援!!

[FONT=宋体]亚里士多德关于“恶法”的定义:[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]良法与恶法:凡是正宗政体下制定的法律为良法;凡是在变态政体下制定的法律为恶法。 [/FONT]
[FONT=宋体][/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]法律的定义:[/FONT]法律是政治上的正义,是世所公认的公正不偏的权衡标准,是理性的体现,又是一个合同式的契约。法律的特性包括:
(1)公正性:法律是正义的体现,它对一切人,包括统治者和被统治者都是平等的。
(2)可变性,法律应该允许变革,当然这种变革须要慎重。
(3)必须遵守性。法律是一种特殊的社会规范,是人们的行为准则,人人都必须遵守它。

俺希望康尼部长会中文,可把上述几行多念几遍反省一下。

jaredwang : 2012-09-07#30
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前方战事紧,后方须声援!!

你发的信不禁想起了救赎的影子。钦佩你的勇气和努力。

今我来思 : 2012-09-07#31
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前方战事紧,后方须声援!!

你发的信不禁想起了救赎的影子。钦佩你的勇气和努力。
康尼部长对我批评他的言论很无语,因为我所说所做都合法。他既然担任移民部长,我们不满意,他就得忍受咱们的指责。这是基于他担任的政府职务的指责,并不是对他个人的攻击。
他是很聪明的,绝不会因为咱们在这里说三道四就过来找茬子,那样,等于封杀言论自由,千夫所指,他这辈子官运就没了。

jaredwang : 2012-09-07#32
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前方战事紧,后方须声援!!

现在的局面已经很清晰,他是被千夫指的人,诉讼成功,他只能妥协暗暗给发ME,但是一般老外都是很顽固的,特别是当他有某些权力的时候。所以我觉得,诉讼成功发ME,其他的他会想尽办法Hold住。俺有时候也很犟,俺就要看看他啥时给我。

今我来思 : 2012-09-07#33
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前方战事紧,后方须声援!!

现在的局面已经很清晰,他是被千夫指的人,诉讼成功,他只能妥协暗暗给发ME,但是一般老外都是很顽固的,特别是当他有某些权力的时候。所以我觉得,诉讼成功发ME,其他的他会想尽办法Hold住。俺有时候也很犟,俺就要看看他啥时给我。
我跟你的理解一样。不过我不认为康尼个人怎样坏,他是被误导教唆坏了。再说,他已经认定咱们91这波人是低质量的大跃进的产物,为了加拿大的利益,他坚决抵制,爱国之心可肯定,但是做法欠妥。要是我,就会综合考虑,把等得年头多的,已经补料的都放过,那些只交了签证费的等的时间不长的,在返还签证费时,双倍。爱国、为自己国家经济利益考虑是好,也得保持中庸。
还有,他的观点是,移民太多,成了经济不可承受之重,可是在加拿大也有很多人持相反观点,认为移民促进加拿大经济发展。
因此,咱们孔老夫子的中庸哲学他最该学学,康尼的专业是哲学啊,也不知道他咋学的,大概上大学时就光找女朋友了。他只爱自己的国,只为自己国家的纳税人着想,即使返还我们签证费也一分利钱不给,这都是走极端,对我们苛刻残忍,才激起众怒。即使是外乡人,也不能乱欺负嘛!

今我来思 : 2012-09-07#34
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前方战事紧,后方须声援!!

我收到几个议员来信表示愿意帮着问询情况,要我填表格,写地址。有谁需要可私信给我。因为我已经参加诉讼,不需要通过别的途径查询了。

今我来思 : 2012-09-07#35
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前路茫茫,不知走到何年

从以下移民部掌权高官话语中实在看不出他们给已经打分的尽快处理、尽快me/visa这样的意思,都是我们一厢情愿,用幻想麻醉自己:
联邦移民及多元文化国务秘书梁中心15日到访卑省,并与本地华文媒体会面,他表示,对28万技术移民「一刀切」政策引起争议是意料中事,但政府不会走回头路。梁中心表示,虽然「一刀切」政策引起不小争议,但申请者与渥京对簿公堂乃意料中事,政府不会走回头路取消该项政策,因为这是改革移民系统的必经过程。他强调政府的决策并非针对华裔移民,移民部为了解决积案过多的问题,并且加快未来移民申请,C38号法案势在必行。梁中心续称,政府并非取消申请,而是知悉无法及时处理个案而退件,因此在考量申请者的利益下作出此一决策。他建议移民申请人透过省提名计画(PNP)等方式办理,可更节省时间。

民工工 : 2012-09-08#36
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前路茫茫,不知走到何年

跪求大家通过自己的邮箱给保守党政要们发信,诉说苦情,呼吁关注北京使馆的问题,包括打分的,没打分的,总之,关注我们北京使馆的事,快快办理为好,免得夜长梦多。我们很快就不再年轻,五年时光无法倒流。这样空耗下去,等我们白发苍苍的时候,拿什么跟家小们吹嘘“老子当年”呢?

该宣传真相的时候了,或者说,已经太晚了,因为这些议员们稀里糊涂被康尼部长为国家经济利益效力的煽情演说所打动,就在国会投了c-38一票!




以前信息:
我向加拿大政界要人写信反映情况了。邹至蕙和麦克.林顿都诚恳作答并告知我,他们不能越权越过自己的辖区管事,更不能为我一人说话。新民主党负责听取这方面意见的是Jinny Sims. 我打算周末写信,有谁知道北京的加拿大使馆的91积案中打分又体检的有几人,打分没体检的几人,递交完材料等了两年没审的有几人?我反映问题不能只说我自己的事,只能呼吁政界人士关注北京的加拿大使馆对待这群人(30万一刀切切剩下的)事。

闲扯两句题外话:

我们大家都学过《孔雀东南飞》,刘兰芝和焦仲卿恩恩爱爱,可是焦仲卿的母亲却对儿媳横挑鼻子竖挑眼,要把儿媳休了。焦仲卿可怜巴巴低声下气地跪求母亲:“儿已薄禄相,幸复得此妇。结发同枕席,黄泉共为友。共事二三年,始尔未为久。女行无偏斜,何意致不厚。”

焦仲卿的母亲这样回答说:“何乃太区区!此妇无礼节,举动自专由。吾意久怀忿,汝岂得自由!东家有贤女,自名秦罗敷。可怜体无比,阿母为汝求。便可速遣之,遣去慎莫留!”
仔细想想,焦母的确懂人情世故,那就是:既然我已经得罪儿媳了,又转念留她在家,儿媳还是对我有怨恨,不会跟我一心,倒不如赶走了事。
可是,焦仲卿还是认识不到,他以为求告多次就有效,于是长跪告:“伏惟启阿母。今若遣此妇,终老不复取!”
焦仲卿母亲不买账,听了儿子这话,就槌床便大怒:“小子无所畏,何敢助妇语!吾已失恩义,会不相从许!”
人情世故如此,古今中外都不例外。我们北京91的,按照正常进度3年就结案了,拖这么久,再遭拖的,恐怕还是咱们。


五年光阴是活该,你谁也怪不着!

像谈朋友一样,结婚前你完全有权力单方面撤出,或者是你没有,或者是谁都看不上你,但别说5年就是一辈子,也没有任何国家的任何法律,规定超过一定年限必须和你结婚。

这完全就是颠倒黑白,无理搅三分,并且是极其自卑的心里。就别说有骨气的人,挺胸而去,毫不在乎;就是被人甩了的,出于起码的自尊,都不会,又上法院找律师,死皮赖脸的,逼人成婚;更没有到处宣扬,还跑香港满地打滚,大叫自己被朋友甩了,都不想活了。

况且,人家还说把谈朋友的钱退给你,你还额上人家了,要退青春损失费,你二奶,还是小三啊,还是夜总会出台的啊!

有些人,简直脸都不要了,真他妈给男人丢脸,真他妈给中国人丢脸!

今我来思 : 2012-09-08#37
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?前路茫茫,不知走到何年

[FONT=宋体]老僧点评: 梁中心(加拿大移民部部长副手)∶[/FONT]28[FONT=宋体]万技术移民一刀切[/FONT][FONT=宋体]政府不走回头路[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体](世上的路走了就回转不来的是绝路,难道保守党政府走上了有去无回的绝路?还是打着政府旗号,花着纳税人钱,为了拉选票吸引眼球要走绝路?没见过走上绝路的还能回头,您要寻死,我拦不住您。)[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]世界新闻网[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]梁中心表示,「一刀切」是改革移民系统的必经过程。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]撒母耳记下[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]12[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]4[FONT=宋体]节[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]有一客人来到这富户家里,富户舍不得从自己的牛群羊群中,取一只预备给客人吃,却取了那穷人的羊羔,预备给客人吃。[/FONT]


[FONT=宋体]联邦移民及多元文化国务秘书梁中心[/FONT]15[FONT=宋体]日到访卑省,并与本地华文媒体会面,他表示,对[/FONT]28[FONT=宋体]万技术移民「一刀切」政策引起争议是意料中事,但政府不会走回头路[/FONT];

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]以赛亚书[/FONT]第59章[FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]7
他们的脚奔跑行恶,他们急速流无辜人的血,意念都是罪孽,所经过的路都荒凉毁灭。平安的路,他们不知道;所行的事,没有公平。他们为自己修弯曲的路,凡行此路的,都不知道公平。


[FONT=宋体]至於涉嫌诈骗中国银行[/FONT]10[FONT=宋体]亿元公款的高山返中投案,对加拿大而言,是好事一桩。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]把技术移民申请人的事情跟臭名远扬的逃犯混在一起报道,是何用意?[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]梁中心表示,虽然「一刀切」政策引起不小争议,但申请者与渥京对簿公堂乃意料中事,[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]弥迦书[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]6[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]11[FONT=宋体]节[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]恶人家中不仍有非义之财和可恶的小升斗吗?我若用不公道的天平和囊中诡诈的砝码,岂可算为清洁吗?[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]诗篇[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]7[FONT=宋体]篇[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]14[FONT=宋体]节[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]试看恶人因奸恶而?劳,所怀的是毒害,所生的是虚假。他掘了坑,又挖深了,竟掉在自己所挖的阱里。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]政府不会走回头路取消该项政策,因为这是改革移民系统的必经过程。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]箴言[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]27章[FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]22
[FONT=宋体]你虽用杵,将愚妄人与打碎的麦子一同捣在臼中,他的愚妄还是离不了他。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]他强调政府的决策并非针对华裔移民,移民部为了解决积案过多的问题,并且加快未来移民申请,[/FONT]C38[FONT=宋体]号法案势在必行。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]老僧我听出话音了,您意思是说,这是一项顶顶重要的政绩工程。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]《圣经》新约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]路加福音[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]20[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]45[FONT=宋体]节[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]众百姓听的时候,耶稣对门徒说:“你们要防备文士。他们好穿长衣游行,喜爱人在街市上问他们安,又喜爱会堂里的高位,筵席上的首席;他们侵吞寡妇的家产,假意作很长的祷告。这些人要受更重的刑罚。[/FONT]


[FONT=宋体]梁中心续称,政府并非取消申请,而是知悉无法及时处理个案而退件,因此在考量申请者的利益下作出此一决策。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》新约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]罗马书[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]12[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]9[FONT=宋体]节[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]爱人不可虚假。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》新约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]罗马书[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]13[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]8[FONT=宋体]节[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]凡事不可亏欠人,惟有彼此相爱,要常以为亏欠,因为爱人的,就完全了律法。爱是不加害与人的,所以爱就完全了律法。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]箴言[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]16[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]2[FONT=宋体]节[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]人一切所行的,在自己眼里看为清洁;惟有耶和华衡量人心。[/FONT]


[FONT=宋体]他建议移民申请人透过省提名计画[/FONT](PNP)[FONT=宋体]等方式办理,可更节省时间。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]西番雅书[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]3[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]19[FONT=宋体]节:[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]那时,我必罚办一切苦待你的人;又拯救你瘸腿的,聚集你被赶出的。那些在全地受羞辱的,我必使他们得称赞,有名声。[/FONT]


[FONT=宋体]他指出,加国目前每年经济成长率约为[/FONT]2%[FONT=宋体],人口增长则仅有[/FONT]1.2%[FONT=宋体],其中[/FONT]0.8%[FONT=宋体]依赖移民填补,预计未来每年新增[/FONT]25[FONT=宋体]万移民人口。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]《圣经》新约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]哥林多后书[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]8章[FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]14节:
[FONT=宋体]乃要均平;就是要你们的富余,将来也可以补你们的不足,这就均平了。如经上所记:“多收的也没有余,少收的也没有缺。”[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]梁中心答问时说,高山回中国投案,对加拿大而言是好事一桩,避免浪费加国法律诉讼资源。他相信高山是良心发现,主动返中投案,但并未透露加、中两国是否达成协议。[/FONT][FONT=宋体]至於高山妻女的加国居留权,梁中心认为应不会遭到撤销,毕竟全案为高山所为,中国检控单位也只通缉高山本人。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]此处指桑骂槐说我们技术移民申请人也在浪费加国诉讼资源?我们还不配在加国法庭上为自己申诉?[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]《圣经》旧约[/FONT][FONT=宋体]诗篇[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]9[FONT=宋体]章[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]18[FONT=宋体]节 [/FONT][FONT=宋体]第[/FONT]10[FONT=宋体]篇第[/FONT]2[FONT=宋体]节:[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]穷乏人必不永久被忘,困苦人的指望,必不永远落空。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]恶人在骄横中,把困苦人追得火急,愿他们陷在自己所设的计谋里。[/FONT]

今我来思 : 2012-09-08#38
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

上文原文出处参考一下链接:
http://www.iask.ca/news/canada/immigration/2012/0816/151051.html


关于梁中心的背景身世,可参考以下文章或链接:
加拿大移民部长副手梁中心:限投资移民必要权
2011-07-08 来源: 世界新闻网 作者:admin
   

梁中心(中)在移民部高级顾问梁英年(右)陪同下拜会世界日报,由本报社长邱光盛接待。(记者阮耀毅 摄影)

国会议员兼联邦多元文化议会秘书梁中心7日访问世报,畅谈自己的移民历程及移民政策愿景。他强调「公正与平衡」是移民政策核心,旨在符合加国社会需要。台客免签後驻台签证处虽撤销,移民及国际学生申请案转往香港处理,但对申请人而言,流程不变,仍在台湾受理、面谈。
梁中心的主要职能是协助移民部长康尼准备国会有关委员开会、在全国搜集不同族裔对如何加强多元文化服务的建议,以及代表政府出席重要宣布的会议等。
梁中心7日访问世界日报温哥华社,畅谈自己的移民历程,他说自己1950年在台湾出生并在台北市女师附小接受基础教育,直到现在国语仍是「字正腔圆」,全赖当年老师教导有方,甚至「讲台语嘛A通」(讲台语也能通)。此外他会讲粤语、日语及德语共六种语言。
他在初中时期转往日本就读国际学校,中学毕业後持中华民国护照前来加拿大留学,先进入西门菲沙大学(SFU)就读,却因校内风起云涌的反越战浪潮引发罢课,他只好转到渥太华卡尔顿(Carleton)大学。
1970年加拿大与台湾断交,他准备申请学生签证延签时,承办人员竟指加国不承认中华民国护照,无法办理延签,让他顿时沦为「无国籍」人士。所幸母亲具有香港身分证,因此辗转取得英国政府发出的临时护照,才顺利解决学生签证延签问题。
大学毕业後留在加拿大工作,但临时工作签证每年必须申请延签,相当麻烦,移民部官员主动建议他申请移民,使得人生走向彻底改变,因为父母原本希望他返回台湾的家族企业工作,没想到会在加拿大生根发展,甚至进入政界发展。
虽然是新科国会议员,但因自己的移民背景并长期参与社区事务及国际经贸交流,他认为这是总理哈珀任命他担任多元文化议会秘书的主因。

梁中心强调,移民社区根深蒂固的家庭观念与保守党理念一致,总理哈珀不只一次向他提到,希望透过强化家庭价值,巩固社区稳定,进而建构强盛的国家,这与华人的「修身、齐家、治国、平天下」有异曲同工之妙。
谈到近期移民部限缩经济类移民新申请案,将每年投资移民上限订为700人,首日即告额满,他说这是必要的权宜措施,否则积案将更形恶化。虽然反对党要求政府增拨经费加速清理积案,但他强调移民数量短期内如果大量增加,恐冲击现有社会系统,反对党无需当家,当然可以信口开河。
至於移民部长康尼(Jason Kenney)在联邦大选期间承诺会展开「行动计画」,谘询各界对如何清理家庭团聚类别积案意见,梁中心表示相关作业会在9月展开,政府已承诺父母、祖父母占每年移民总配额的比率不会改变。
去年底加拿大给予台湾旅客免签优惠,但日前移民部将驻台签证处撤除,当地所有移民及国际学生签证申请移至香港审理,引发台湾地区申请人疑虑。但梁中心强调,这项流程调整只是将审理作业移往香港,对申请人而言,送件与面谈仍会在台湾进行,无需多虑。

http://www.51ielts.com/c/2012-05-25/80235.html

今我来思 : 2012-09-09#39
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

在这节骨眼上,还是毛主席他老人家说得实在,敌人反对的我们就要拥护,敌人拥护的我们就要反对。做他们反对的事情就对了。

今我来思 : 2012-09-09#40
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

康尼部长国会发言把我们技术移民旧案定性为上届liberal党丢下的垃圾MESS,以下为发言内容:
Mr. Speaker, when this government came to office in 2006, after 13 years of Liberal neglect and incompetence with respect to our immigration system, we inherited 840,000 people waiting in the Liberal immigration backlog for decisions for up toseven or eight years. That member
belonged to the government that allowed seven and eight year wait times to develop.

Thanks to the action we have taken, consistently opposed by the Liberal Party, we have managed to cut the skilled worker backlog in half. Now we are going to a just-in-time immigration system that will accept newcomers within months rather than years. We are cleaning up the Liberals' mess.

今我来思 : 2012-09-10#41
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

[FONT=宋体]摘自民国小学课本:[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]一只老猫爬到树上,看见一个鸟窝,窝里有四个鸟蛋,老猫想:四个鸟蛋也好吃一饱,但是等它变了四只小鸟,岂不更好,我等一等吧。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]过了几天,老猫又爬到树上,看见窝里有了四只小鸟。老猫想:小鸟太小,长大一点,岂不更好,我等一等吧。[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]过了几天,老猫又爬到树上,看见窝里一只鸟也没有了。老猫说:“唉!来得太迟了。”[/FONT]

今我来思 : 2012-09-10#42
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

在一条危船上,随时都会翻船的情况下,ME的想把所有没ME的扔下水去,打分的想把所有没打分的扔下船去,s2的想把所有没s2的都扔下去,而只有fn,挂了个号的则想法完全相反,他想跟大家同船共济。
所以,加国法院中正展开各路英豪、各派势力的鏖战。律师们平时就像漂浮在水中的鳄鱼,不引人注意,像一段枯木一样,静静的,但是,现在这些鳄鱼们发现了目标,已经死死咬住了已经上天揽月(争取国会通过c-38中的一刀切),正要下海捉鳖(一刀切,搞政绩)的血气方刚、挥斥方遒的康尼部长,我们现在若问:部长先生,什么时候开始一刀切?砍掉28万跟我们没关系,只要把剩下的2万快快解决!我们的康尼部长正死去活来,根本回答不了,表情很难看。

今我来思 : 2012-09-10#43
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

9月15日---9月18日是加拿大司法史上的大日子!大规模的律师辩论团如同大会战,各路人马汇集法院,控辩双方将展开激烈交锋。这个对决的结果将不仅书写加拿大移民史的新一页,更将书写加拿大的建国史新一页!时事造英雄,李希大律师在此重大战役后将成为加拿大家喻户晓的名人!

今我来思 : 2012-09-11#44
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

The more applicants who are willing to take a stand against what they feel is legally wrong sends a stronger message to the Canadian government.”
来法院递诉状的移民申请人越多,越说明移民改革中的问题大,的确做法上有不合法的问题,这就会给加拿大政府发送更强的信号,促使政府审视和考虑。

今我来思 : 2012-09-11#45
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

八卦推演91技术移民大盘走势:
康尼部长在c-38通过后,有每年把积案清零的权利,权利超大,Tim律师都用“沙皇”来形容。
康尼部长副手梁中心明确说,积案可转PNP,就是省提名,老胳膊老腿儿的准移民在一年内没有人提名要走,部长有权清零,这“process"还会继续,就是把这些不符合加拿大利益的都在碎纸机里继续"process”。
部长是很守信用,我们的案子“continue to process".

joseph93 : 2012-09-12#46
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

吓死人了,赶快诉讼

今我来思 : 2012-09-12#47
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

吓死人了,赶快诉讼
ME 都已经有的,香港那边照样被切,这样的人现在也还在诉讼中。所以没有 Decision made , 就不算数。省提名跟放池子差不了多少,而最可怕的康尼最近通过国会获得了清零的大权。一年之内还剩下的,就清了,这就是他追求的效率。
审时度势,真是不如趁他力不从心、屠刀举不起的时候,趁着申请人雇的律师正跟他扭打僵持不下的一段时间赶快敲定。

今我来思 : 2012-09-12#48
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

据以下媒体报道,康尼部长涉嫌干涉言论自由,恐吓律师:
加拿大联邦总理哈珀周四说,前传媒大亨布莱克(Conrad Black)在佛罗里达州出狱後,获临时签证在加拿大居住,移民部长康尼(jason Kenney)并未参与这个决定。 本 文 来 自 家园网 iask.ca

有报道称,康尼原先说,他未在布莱克申请返国事宜中运用任何影响力,一些律师对这个说法提出质疑。哈珀的言论是回应有关报道。 加 拿 大 家 园 网
哈珀周四说:「康尼部长用尽一切方法,确保此事由公务员独立处理。政府无意以任何方法、形式干预此事。」 加 拿 大 家园网

康尼办公室向上加拿大律师公会(Law Society of Upper Canada),投诉多伦多律师马曼(Guidy Mamann),因为马曼说,部长未参与批准布莱克回国的事宜,那是不可能的。 加 拿 大 家园网


律师公会认定,没有足够证据调查马曼。 iask.ca


约80名律师联署的一封公开信周四发布,其中指控康尼试图恐吓他们的同行。信中说,他们同意马曼的说法,挑战部长向律师会作出的投诉。 家园新闻,news.iask.ca


律师们写道:「你办公室的一名官员,利用上加拿大律师公会的投诉程序,试图令一名论者闭嘴,遭律师公会正确地驳回。但如果你相信,我们的言论违反了上加拿大律师公会规则,请随便向律师公会举报我们。我们认为,你和你的官员试图扼杀言论自由,应该受到谴责。我们不会屈服。」 i a s k . c a

哈珀反驳此信说:「康尼部长就一些律师的行动,向律师公会作出投诉。我认为这个投诉应该获得处理。」 家园论坛,forum.iask.ca

康尼办公室也反驳信中指摘,发言人柯里克(Ana Curic)在电邮中说:「布莱克的决定,由独立公务员根据加国法律作出。移民部长或他的职员都未有过问此事。」 www.iask.ca

布莱克因欺诈和妨碍司法公正罪名入狱。他在2001年放弃加拿大国籍,成为英国贵族,不过渥京仍发给他1年的临时居民签证。 160.ca

今我来思 : 2012-09-12#49
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

加拿大移民部长康尼(Jason Kenney)说,人们要想移居加拿大,联邦政府并无意抛弃他们。
他说,联邦政府要退还一些人的移民申请,如果申请人符合新移民计划的资格,而本人又愿意,他们可以重新投递移民申请表格。

批评人士指康尼言不由衷,因为移民部要立法取消2008年前提出的移民申请,该类积压个案高达28万宗。加拿大移民部当前限每年限制技术移民,最多1万人申请,以及需要为少数专业。

加拿大政府说,它要更新移民系统,所以必须减少积压个案。
加拿大关上移民大门,不再处理大批量申请个案,一些移民申请者本周说,他们要将渥京政府告上法庭。
康尼回应说,联邦政府早有心理准备,知道一些移民律师会控告政府,捞一笔钱。
他又说,渥京政府的法案合法公正,经得起司法考验。
本篇文章来源于 无忧雅思网 原文链接:http://www.51ielts.com/c/2012-05-25/80710.html

Les Paradis : 2012-09-12#50
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

已打分的人绝对不会被回溯,最坏的情况是继续拖下去。

你这种危言耸听的标题还是改一下为好。不要闹笑话。

今我来思 : 2012-09-12#51
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

已打分的人绝对不会被回溯,最坏的情况是继续拖下去。

你这种危言耸听的标题还是改一下为好。不要闹笑话。
:wdb6:好久不见!

今我来思 : 2012-09-12#52
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

已打分的人绝对不会被回溯,最坏的情况是继续拖下去。

你这种危言耸听的标题还是改一下为好。不要闹笑话。
我认为还是别乐观,预备去北京的加拿大使馆游行一番,你带头吧,反正已经出名了,你。。:wdb17:

Les Paradis : 2012-09-12#53
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

我呸。你想做我的马甲,头脑也应该灵活点吧。

今我来思 : 2012-09-12#54
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

我呸。你想做我的马甲,头脑也应该灵活点吧。
我听信中介的话,说我已经打分的安全,就没参加614前那一拨诉讼,你看,吃亏大吧?还是多往坏处想,更妥当。

依然------ : 2012-09-12#55
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

我听信中介的话,说我已经打分的安全,就没参加614前那一拨诉讼,你看,吃亏大吧?还是多往坏处想,更妥当。
偶也是,中介还说没有用。这回看人家打官司的体检了,又说可以打了,还说了加拿大法治国家等等。咳,中介咋回事?早点建议转227也不至于至此,这些不敬业的中介。收了钱还不办事。

Les Paradis : 2012-09-12#56
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

吓死人了,赶快诉讼

看你的FN日期,我觉得你是没打分的吧。没打分的自然就不应该随便瞎搅和,我说的有道理吗?

joseph93 : 2012-09-12#57
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

是呢,说得对。但我真的没搅和。

Les Paradis : 2012-09-12#58
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

是呢,说得对。但我真的没搅和。


翻了一下你的老帖子,你蛮可爱的!!!:wdb6:

joseph93 : 2012-09-12#59
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

翻了一下你的老帖子,你蛮可爱的!!!:wdb6:[/quot---------------

今我来思 : 2012-09-13#60
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?移民部高官坦言欲走不归路!

看你的FN日期,我觉得你是没打分的吧。没打分的自然就不应该随便瞎搅和,我说的有道理吗?
早加入诉讼的,没打分也大大有希望啊!我理解的动议展望是这样:wdb6:

今我来思 : 2012-09-21#61
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

6月份康尼副手梁中心说在积案人中搞省提名,再看此前也早有类似说法,或者进池子,都不是空穴来风。不同地方都有类似说法。白字黑字,写的都是让企业直接在积案中挑选人,选中的可以优先办理。各省都可来挑,还像奖励一样,额外多给1500人,这就像雇佣下岗职工的单位可从政府领补助。

osmanthus : 2012-09-22#62
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

连7.1的人都怕回溯,遑论9.1。

大拿 : 2012-09-22#63
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

圣诞老人:已经登机的,可以起航 。。。


Les Paradis : 2012-09-23#64
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

圣诞老人:已经登机的,可以起航 。。。



正解!这是原则性的问题,已经审理得差不多80%了,难道又重新审一次?重新审一次就要再收一次申请费。

91已打分的不可能被回溯(回溯的意思是,被2013的新标准审理旧案)

227,626,71打分的也不可能被回溯

只有227,626,71在下一个部长指令限定的日期之前没打分的才肯定被回溯或者其他的法子砍掉。

91已打分最坏的结果是拖延,被warehouse。但我觉得不可能拖延很久。

大家都等麻木了,任何闪光的亮点,都不敢相信是真的。

今我来思 : 2012-09-24#65
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

那主儿要靠得住,老母猪会上树。人家也是有利益驱动的,其中猫腻和交易谁说得清。不过,万事不能太悲观,没准儿有戏剧性变化呢。且看国产的不厚同志,不可一世,怎么就去云南喂海鸥了?怎么就一巴掌把打黑英雄逼到了领馆?怎么大太子也落个人仰马翻。。。

monk620 : 2012-09-24#66
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

如果加拿大真这样,全是暗中的猫腻或说叫潜规则,咱就不用移民到那里了。我们现在对于一刀切确实感到不公平,包括之前的227、626、71的插队,都觉得不公平,但法治社会的内涵需要我们更多了解。这也有助于我们今后对一些事情的看法,包括对国内和对加拿大的。
不知道是否看过林达写的《近距离看美国》,网上可以下载。里面提到当年著名的辛普森案,这位明星最后被无罪开释。当时的阵营非常清楚,黑人认为他无罪,白人认为他有罪。而最后的结果,一定有人觉得不公平,感叹天理何在。但是美国人却普遍认为,这样的结果虽有不同看法,但这不是辛普森的胜利,而是美国法律的胜利。
个人理解,美加的法治社会,程序正义更重要,而程序的满足也才最大可能地保证实质正义。如果在一刀切过程中,CIC程序有问题,不用我们争,他们的议员也不会答应,因为对程序的漠视,就是对议员和百姓权利的漠视。如果其程序正义满足,那么即便有人觉得不公,也要相信程序的胜利。当然,后续的诉讼也是程序正义的一部分。我支持发起及参加诉讼的人。也相信加拿大会依旧尊重程序正义,而不是尊重猫腻。
至于BO案,正说明其本质差异。一切都靠耳光解决问题,又怎能跟法治相提并论?

今我来思 : 2012-09-24#67
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

加拿大再怎么不好我也要去,因为好不好是比较而言的。我要是荷兰人就不去了。程序正义---靠投票,一党占大多数,什么法案都通得过。这是问题。什么国家也不是天堂,有个理想的民主自由社会让咱们白白享受去的,一个社会的民主自由透明要多少代人的努力。在此基础上,CAIPS 能查,这是理所当然的?在天朝可能吗?所以加拿大还是要去。再说,我们在这里跳着脚骂,人家也没把咱们怎么的。这在天朝可能吗?

今我来思 : 2012-09-25#68
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

参考消息:
议会中康尼部长精彩回答:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/content/sen/co...VB-49555-E.HTM

227案件归宿:

Senator Callbeck: Welcome, minister, and thank you for appearing. I want to ask about the Federal Skilled Worker Program and the backlog. The 300,000 applications that came in before February 27, 2008, will be sent back. Were any estimates made on how much it would have cost to bring in the resources to deal with these applicants?
Mr. Kenney: First, to make a correction, it is 100,000 applications, representing 300,000 individuals.
To answer your question, yes, we know the resources that would be required to bring them in. If we were to bring them all in at once, this would mean moving our immigration plan from about 260,000 permanent residents to about 560,000. That would be unlikely to meet public support.
Alternatively, we could continue with caps on new applications over the next few years and seek to process the 100,000 in the Federal Skilled Worker Program backlog. However, we believe, based on current levels, that it would take us until about 2017 or 2018 to admit all those people and eliminate the backlog. The cost would be static, whatever our operational costs currently are.

Senator Callbeck: It certainly does not seem fair that people have applied and have been on the waiting list for years, and now they will get their applications back. I know they are getting their fee back, but they have been waiting for years.

What about the people who are on that list from March 1, 2008? Will they be judged under the new criteria of this Federal Skilled Worker Program?

Mr. Kenney: Yes. It is our intention to apply the new criteria, which we intend to develop this year, to those who are in the backlog in the inventory. For example, I intend to pre-publish this June a new points grid for the Federal Skilled Worker Program that would then come into effect later in the year, and it would be our intention to assess applicants who remain in the backlog against those new criteria that we think are more pertinent, which better assess the likelihood of people succeeding in the Canadian economy.

In terms of fairness, I would reiterate our view that it has been unfair to have all our skilled worker applicants waiting in the queue for seven or eight years. I do not want to be too partisan about this, but this is not a problem that developed in the last five years. When the current government came to office, we inherited a backlog in the immigration system of 840,000 people waiting for years to come to Canada. We are trying to move beyond that, as other developed countries have, so we can attract people more quickly with a higher ratio of their having jobs already lined up so that they have higher levels of employment and income.

Senator Callbeck: The new criteria for the Federal Skilled Worker Program has not been established yet.
Mr. Kenney: No, although we have been very transparent. We have had widespread consultations. While we have not published it, I can tell you it is our intention to raise the points allocated to younger workers, essentially, to focus more on younger applicants, higher levels of language proficiency for those hoping to come into regulated professions, higher points for people with pre-arranged employment, and higher points for people with Canadian as opposed to foreign work experience. We also intend to create a new skilled trades stream that will facilitate the admission into Canada of people who can work in skilled trades rather than just professions.

Senator Callbeck: Can the 300,000 that are getting their applications back after they have waited for years reapply under the new criteria?
Mr. Kenney: Yes.
Senator Callbeck: Will they be fast-tracked?(从新申请的可有更快办理的优惠?)
Mr. Kenney: No, with a qualifier. (没有。被雇佣的优先)If any of them can obtain an offer of employment with a Canadian employer, they can go to the front of the line right now, and they can in the new system as well.(真他妈狗娘养的!!!)

Senator Callbeck: Anyone can go to the front of the line?
Mr. Kenney: Anyone who has a credible offer of employment right now. We limit the number of new applications currently to the Federal Skilled Worker Program to only 10,000 per year as part of our backlog reduction strategy. The exception is that people can get into that fast-track program to be admitted in less than a year if they have pre-arranged employment.

Senator Callbeck: With respect to the temporary economic classes that the minister will have the authority to establish, you said the classes would be temporary up to five years, but my understanding is that those classes can be changed within that five years. Is that right?
Mr. Linklater: Essentially, the minister would have the authority under these proposed amendments to establish pilot projects, as you say, for up to five years. If during the course of those five years we find we have a resounding success, something we would want to make permanent based on data and evaluation findings, we can move to regulate that class permanently as part of the regulations under the act.
Conversely, if we find that a pilot is being tested and is not having the desired outcomes, the minister can cancel it through a new ministerial instruction.

秦淮河 : 2012-09-26#69
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

正解!这是原则性的问题,已经审理得差不多80%了,难道又重新审一次?重新审一次就要再收一次申请费。

大家都等麻木了,任何闪光的亮点,都不敢相信是真的。

也有这个感觉,如同体制带来的感觉一样.多么可怕的状态.大家选择走移民的道路,某种程度上是为了脱离这里的体制.可是已经被体制惯了,思维都有了惯性.91打过分的同学们应该positive一点,未来就在2013.

jaredwang : 2012-09-26#70
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

positive的看问题是马上就可以休息八天啦。2013也并不遥远了。

秦淮河 : 2012-09-26#71
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

没有资格在这里说大道理.其实对生活positive的态度,也是在国外生活好的必要因素之一,既然选择了去到别人的意识形态,就不得不去了解和适应.否则也很难生活的快乐.

是啊.长假去哪里玩也是头疼的事儿?

jaredwang : 2012-09-26#72
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

去人群堆里玩,在天朝到哪里都是这个大道理。

godream : 2012-09-26#73
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

传言LW组的筒子得到了9个月结案的agreement,怎么没有人来报告呢。

秦淮河 : 2012-09-26#74
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

去人群堆里玩,在天朝到哪里都是这个大道理。
自从知道过路过桥费免,就更不敢出门了.:wdb5:

monk620 : 2012-09-26#75
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

加拿大再怎么不好我也要去,因为好不好是比较而言的。我要是荷兰人就不去了。程序正义---靠投票,一党占大多数,什么法案都通得过。这是问题。什么国家也不是天堂,有个理想的民主自由社会让咱们白白享受去的,一个社会的民主自由透明要多少代人的努力。在此基础上,CAIPS 能查,这是理所当然的?在天朝可能吗?所以加拿大还是要去。再说,我们在这里跳着脚骂,人家也没把咱们怎么的。这在天朝可能吗?

我不了解加拿大的政治现状。但我看过美国的一些说法(只是说法)。美国人的制度真的很有意思。比如民主党当选总统,议会选举中,老百姓就会无组织的将共和党选为议会多数党,目的就是避免一党独大。不过在具体执政措施中,民主共和两党的差异已经微乎其微,这也是美国人的参选率越来越低的原因之一。毕竟选谁都差不多。因此,奥巴马的政策,在议会中也会遭遇民主党议员的反对和共和党议员的支持。
不知道加拿大是否也会有这种情况?不过西方的政党体系并不严密。个人感觉,加拿大的保守党议员也不会唯哈伯马首是瞻的。至少按照他们的制度设计,议员是为选民负责,而不是为个人或政党负责。

godream : 2012-09-26#76
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

我不了解加拿大的政治现状。但我看过美国的一些说法(只是说法)。美国人的制度真的很有意思。比如民主党当选总统,议会选举中,老百姓就会无组织的将共和党选为议会多数党,目的就是避免一党独大。不过在具体执政措施中,民主共和两党的差异已经微乎其微,这也是美国人的参选率越来越低的原因之一。毕竟选谁都差不多。因此,奥巴马的政策,在议会中也会遭遇民主党议员的反对和共和党议员的支持。
不知道加拿大是否也会有这种情况?不过西方的政党体系并不严密。个人感觉,加拿大的保守党议员也不会唯哈伯马首是瞻的。至少按照他们的制度设计,议员是为选民负责,而不是为个人或政党负责。

听说加拿大的政党不一样,有党内纪律,大于为选民负责。

依然------ : 2012-09-26#77
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

自从知道过路过桥费免,就更不敢出门了.:wdb5:
怕了?没必要吗,出去看看没啥可怕

加拿大老熊 : 2012-09-26#78
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

加拿大再怎么不好我也要去,因为好不好是比较而言的。我要是荷兰人就不去了。程序正义---靠投票,一党占大多数,什么法案都通得过。这是问题。什么国家也不是天堂,有个理想的民主自由社会让咱们白白享受去的,一个社会的民主自由透明要多少代人的努力。在此基础上,CAIPS 能查,这是理所当然的?在天朝可能吗?所以加拿大还是要去。再说,我们在这里跳着脚骂,人家也没把咱们怎么的。这在天朝可能吗?
同意,加拿大再差劲也比?朝强,何况保守党也不是千秋万代。

秦淮河 : 2012-09-26#79
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

怕了?没必要吗,出去看看没啥可怕
打小就怕人多.

今我来思 : 2012-09-26#80
回复: C38可回溯,五年光阴咋回溯?已打分的可高枕无忧?

同意,加拿大再差劲也比?朝强,何况保守党也不是千秋万代。
?朝里咱们没选票,不是公民,受不少腌湃气。等到终于成了公民,民主自由啥的不是问题的时候,大家又很快倦了。眼睛盯着钱,有了钱就有更多选择的自由!所以说,幸福是相对的,这一步境地比前一步强点儿,就感觉幸福了。

今我来思 : 2012-09-27#81
回复: 回溯,91残余,227,626,71,格杀勿论!雇主领走免死

  移民部透过C38法案将28万名技术移民积案作废,另有约2万人在2008年3月后送件,幸运逃过一劫。但纪录显示,移民部长康尼(Jason Kenney)5月曾在参议院常设委员会表示,将要求积案申请人比照新出炉的甄选办法审核。不过几天后移民部证人却向法庭宣称绝不会这么做,移民律师大表不满。
  联邦政府通过C38「一刀切」法案,将2008年2月27日前送件,且在今年3月29日尚未做出最后裁定的联邦技术移民积案全数作废,受影响者达28万人。另有约2万名积案申请人已审核通过或在2008年3月之后送件,并不在作废之列。
  根据国会纪录,康尼在5月17日出席参议院常设委员会答覆参议员柯贝克(Senatro Callbeck)质询时表示,正在研议技术移民新甄选办法,并将要求这些未遭作废的积案申请人比照新法重新审核。
  移民部长康尼5月在参议院答询时表示,将要求未遭撤销的技术移民积案采新甄选办法重新审核。(本报资料照片)
  双方问答摘录如下:
  柯贝克:对那些等候多年却遭退件的申请人而言,确实很不公平……。那些2008年3月1日以后送件的申请人要怎么处理?是否会用新的联邦技术移民甄选办法审核?
  康尼:是的,我们准备让那些积案申请人适用今年所制订的新甄选办法。(Yes. It is our intention to apply the new criteria, which we intend to develop this year, to those who are in the backlog in the inventory.)
  律师李希(Tim Leahy)25日表示,就在康尼于参议院做出上述回答后一周,他代表逾千技术移民积案申请人状告移民部的官司开庭,他在庭上询问移民部证人,新甄选办法是否会「溯及既往」(retrospectively),该名证人宣誓后声称绝不会这么做,法官也予采信,认为申请人担心将来被要求以新甄选办法审核的顾虑是多余的,法庭无需「先发制人」(pre-emptively )的为此颁布命令,要求移民部根据送件时的甄选办法继续审理积案。
  李希认为移民部证人有说谎、误导法官之嫌,因为康尼准备让所有申请人适用新甄选办法,不仅是2008年2月27日前送件者,还包括新法实施日前送件的申请人。
  他不排除目前暂停收件的父母、祖父母探亲、投资移民等,在将来新法实施后,移民部会要求所有积案申请人比照新甄选办法重新审核。
  针对未遭撤的积案申请人是否比照新甄选办法重新审核,本报25日上午询问移民部,但移民部官员表示要26日下班前才能回答。

今我来思 : 2012-09-27#82
回复: 关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,26日下班前移民部才回答

改革三板斧细则:
  加移民政策调整接近完成 1年成就总结
  民对加拿大的经济有重要的作用。 但过去有些移民政策存在漏洞或缺陷。近一年多以来, 加拿大移民部动作频频,在许多移民政策上做出大刀阔斧的改革,加强移民系统的完整性,并随加拿大经济需要作出适当的调整。
  过去一年来, 加拿大在移民政策方面做出一系列重大改革。所有这些改革的目的都是为了加强移民对经济的积极作用。移民部长杰森康尼8月24日说,“移民政策调整的目的是要建立以体现更快捷、更灵活、与经济互动性更强,更安全的移民体系”。
  加拿大的移民政策改革涉及到各个方面。去年通过《保护加拿大移民系统法案》(Protecting Canada’s Immigration System Act),改革难民申请和审批系统, 并允许政府集签证申请人的生物特征辨别信息 ;提出《加快遣返外国罪犯法案》(Faster Removal of Foreign Criminals Act),堵住外国犯罪分子为拖延遣返而钻空子。
  在加强规管方面,针对“假结婚”的欺诈现象进行打击,推出了结婚后两年才能担保配偶申请移民的新规定。打击移民顾问的造假和欺诈现象;严格执行永久居民在加居住的时间规定, 吊销了3000多人靠造假取得的公民身份。难民在被确认之前不能享受比加拿大公民还多的医疗福利。
  在亲属团聚移民方面, 推出了“超级签证政策”, 父母探亲可以获得十年有效多次入境签证, 每次最长可以停留两年。这一方面使那些想到加拿大探亲旅游或帮助儿女照看小孩的长辈更方便出入, 另一方面也缓解了父母与移民子女团聚申请严重积压的状况。只要是申请人在加拿大的亲属达到最低收入要求, 购买健康保险, 多数都可获批。 最低收入要求是单身年收入22637加元;两口之家28182加元;三口之家34646加元。
  为鼓励留学生在毕业后留在加拿大, 推出了加拿大经验类别移民。让那些在加拿大接受教育, 英法语流利的年轻人更容易移民。
  技术移民是加拿大经济类移民中最大的一个类别。 联邦移民部对技术移民申请条件和程序的改革酝酿已久。 改革是在对大量数据进行研究, 听取业界意见之后做出的, 以便在今后处理申请时可以挑选更有可能在加拿大成功的专业技术人士。
  加拿大移民部在8月18日公布对技术移民政策的改革方案要点:
  - 其中语言水平成为最重要的申请条件。为此增加了语言水准在评估中所占的分数, 设定了语言测评成绩最低标准线为加拿大语言标准(CLB)第7级, 相当于雅思6分。
  - 新评分制度强调申请人年轻化及具备加国工作经验。 这不仅因为年轻人更易获得加拿大经验, 还因为年轻人的工作年限更长。因此增加了给18岁至35岁的申请人的年龄分, 47岁以上则打零分。
  - 改革还包括要指定机构对海外申请者专业学历资历进行预评估。其它改革还包括,增加对加拿大经验的评分, 简化对已获工作职位的申请人的审批手续, 让雇主尽快获得所需的人才。
  - 此外,增加技工移民类别,只要是全国需要职业类表中的工种即可。包括电机, 建筑业技术工人, 中央控制操作工,大厨及一般厨师, 甚至面包师和屠夫。对技工移民的语言要求则可灵活下浮至第5级。即中等程度的最低标准。
  如果申请人的配偶有较高的英法语水准或加拿大经验, 也可以给申请人额外加分。
  在投资移民政策方面, 当初设立这一类别的初衷是提振经济、增加就业、但原来的政策不尽人意, 很多时候变成了只需把钱借给加拿大政府,投资者花钱买身份, 既不需要创业, 也没有任何风险,相应的对加拿大经济也没有什么帮助。 本来加拿大政府在2010年调高了投资移民的投资额, 可仍然无法抑制申请者众多的势头, 因此干脆在2011年推出配额措施, 每年联邦政府只接收700个投资移民申请。 并开始调整投资移民政策, 除了提高投资额度, 还会要求投资者在加拿大参与经济活动,并继续投资,才能获得永久居民身份。用移民部长康尼的话说, 就是要对投资移民制度进行重新设计。政府希望能吸引真正的企业家。 预计到年底会推出新的有五年试用期的企业家移民计划,每年接受的申请人不超过2750人。
  而面对多年来一直存在的外国孕妇到加拿大生孩子的问题,政府还准备修改“只要在加拿大国土上出生的孩子就可以自动获得公民身份”的政策。

今我来思 : 2012-09-27#83
回复: 关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,26日下班前移民部才回答

新法审旧案 研究后发现不可行 康尼:不会对旧案引用新计分法 移民网,findjiayuan.com


对于有法律界怀疑移民部可能扩大「一刀切」技术移民旧案,移民部长康尼(Jason Kenney)昨日指出,移民部稍早的确曾考虑,等今年稍后推出的技术移民新办法实施后,将依新的计分办法审理2008年3月以后才提出的申请个案,但经研究后发现并不可行,所以在新办法实施前的积压个案,仍将继续按照塬来的办法审查。 加 拿 大 家 园 网
康尼于今年5月17日在上议院社会事务常设委员会的听证会,答覆上议员卡尔巴赫(Catherine Callbeck),对于「一刀切」是否将影响到2008年3月以后提出的申请时,康尼就回答:「是,我们备用今年稍后推出的新的计分方法,来审理积压的技术移民个案;新的计分方法将更能判断移民申请人是否可以更快融入加国经济。」有关答覆并因此引起「一刀切」将扩大的疑云。针对「一刀切」可能扩大,康尼昨日作出回应说,之前虽有考虑,但现在已决定不会对新办法实施前的积压个案,引用新的计分办法。

移民部说,2008年3月至今的积压个案约有两万宗,很多已经完成初审,进入身体检查或保安检查的阶段。

godream : 2012-09-27#84
回复: 捷报!!关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,移民部打退堂鼓啦

希望不是烟雾弹,这厮已经臭不可闻,说什么我都不完全相信。

annie9988 : 2012-09-27#85
回复: 捷报!!关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,移民部打退堂鼓啦

放心吧,这厮不想别人笑话他是白痴。言行不一,他的前程还要不要。

cinf2f : 2012-09-27#86
回复: 捷报!!关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,移民部打退堂鼓啦

加上九一未被切的2万宗计有4万宗积案要处理,不知道需要多少时间消化掉,审理顺序是什么?按91,227,626,71顺序还是从backlog时优先挑选他们认可相对更符合未来新移民要求的?

jaredwang : 2012-09-27#87
回复: 捷报!!关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,移民部打退堂鼓啦

一刀切,诉讼,新政。。。鸡同鸭讲烦死了。如今年后三个月他还不办理积案,那后面就凶多吉少了。

依然------ : 2012-09-28#88
回复: 捷报!!关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,移民部打退堂鼓啦

旧案啥时候开始进步?

tguozq : 2012-09-28#89
回复: 捷报!!关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,移民部打退堂鼓啦

拖到明年,等法律手续办完,他会改口说新条例应用到旧案是可行的,他讲话还有人信吗?

osmanthus : 2012-09-28#90
回复: 捷报!!关于回溯91残余,227,626,71,移民部打退堂鼓啦

肯尼28万人切爽了,剩下的这两万人他不是很在意,再加上这拨人一直在告他,所以他不敢发话,只能采取拖延战术。他现在注意力是在C-50的227这十几万人上,要是c-50他都能回溯或扔进池子,那他对付剩下的人就是小菜一碟了。

今我来思 : 2012-09-30#91
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方律师突围遇不作为法官Barnes

屋漏偏逢连夜雨。在移民部受一肚子气,到了法院,又遇上打偏手的。做事情“善始善终”,是美德啊。可是,在此时此刻,理应主持公道的法官都闪了。明知无辜的人在煎熬,在哭泣,他却背过身去,不听不问。在众人的眼巴巴盼望中,法官大人悠闲地休假两个月,回来也不做事。

tguozq : 2012-09-30#92
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方律师突围遇不作为法官Barnes

只有求助媒体和反对党了。

Les Paradis : 2012-09-30#93
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方律师突围遇不作为法官Barnes

只有求助媒体和反对党了。

这么着急?

参加王仁铎的要等11月才开庭,参加其他律师的集体诉讼的要等至少一两年才有判决结果。这些人岂不急死了?

tguozq : 2012-09-30#94
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方律师突围遇不作为法官Barnes

受打击最大的不是王和其它组,因为抱的希望没那么大,打击最大的是赢了官司的tim组6-14前的。现在法官在犹豫下不了决心,一定受到了CIC巨大压力,如果法官判了下来,再做媒体和反对党的工作,那就晚了。

今我来思 : 2012-09-30#95
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方律师突围遇不作为法官Barnes

要是根本不行,法官也不犹豫了,一口回绝得啦。咱们国内求人办事不是这样的?真有点戏,要争取争取的,才迟迟不表态,顾左右而言他,做够文章。联邦法院那场子看来还是有戏,没到终场,大家要沉住气。谁知道明天发生啥事?

今我来思 : 2012-09-30#96
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方律师突围遇不作为法官Barnes

要是根本不行法官也不犹豫了,一口回绝得啦。看来还是有戏,大家要坚强。谁知道明天发生啥事?
莫为浮云遮望眼,风物长宜放眼量:wdb9:

Les Paradis : 2012-09-30#97
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方律师突围遇不作为法官Barnes

要是根本不行,法官也不犹豫了,一口回绝得啦。咱们国内求人办事不是这样的?真有点戏,要争取争取的,才迟迟不表态,顾左右而言他,做够文章。联邦法院那场子看来还是有戏,没到终场,大家要沉住气。谁知道明天发生啥事?

莫为浮云遮望眼,风物长宜放眼量:wdb9:

你和我想的一样。这是我给Tim的看法:


I guess it's good news the judge still doesn't want to release his decision on your motion, I agree with both Lawrence's and your opinion, he simply doesn't want to embarrass himself by making us win while not long ago he just denied the whole 280,000 class. If he wanted to deny your motion, this would simply be the best time, because other lawyers' 87.4 litigation have started, he could've simply let you join them now. If I remember right, the first meeting for 87.4 litigation for all lawyers happened at the end of May, at that time you were very nervous of getting devoured by that, but it turned out our litigation was a seperate one after all. And yes, the judge doesn't want the approval on your motion to get parlaied by other lawyers at this specefic time of complication. I am actually feeling relieved for the first time that no news coming from the judge.

今我来思 : 2012-10-01#98
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方兵团突围遇不作为法官Barnes

中新网9月28日电 题:2012年各国移民(微博)政策“变脸”:“紧”字当头向“钱”看
  加拿大截至9月14日批准的2万名经验类(CEC)移民中,中国人最多;美国今年已批3002张投资移民签证,中国申请人占据绝大多数;中国已超过英国,成为澳大利亚最大新移民来源国……近期新闻从一个侧面反映了中国移民热的升温。然而,进入2012年,日益增多的中国申请者却遭遇了各国“紧”字当头移民新政的考验。
  年初新加坡移民新政提出居住要求;继取消PSW签证后,英国于6月调整家庭团聚类签证政策设收入限制;7月澳洲移民新政采取打分制同时增加英语要求;新西兰7月30日推父母团聚移民新政;8月加拿大技术移民再推甄选新规,提高语言要求……


  2012年似乎成为各国移民政策的“变脸年”。各国纷纷抬高门槛,收紧政策向“钱”看,对移民说“NO”!所谓“知己知彼,百战不殆”,熟悉几个热门移民类别的新政对申请者尤为重要。
  “水涨船高”的投资移民
  美东时间9月13日下午,美国众议院以412票赞成、3票反对的绝对优势,通过“EB-5区域中心投资移民法案延期3年直到2015年9月”的决定。EB-5法案在众议院获得通过,被许多专家解读为美国在目前经济状态下高度重视就业问题的选择。据透露,截至今年6月30日,美国通过EB-5政策已为国内经济直接注入大约15亿美元优质投资,为当地政府创造了34,000多个就业岗位。
  有移民专家分析,移民项目的供不应求必将推动价格的上涨;在其他国家移民政策涨声一片的背景下,一贯采用“先延期、再涨价”的美国,提升EB-5的投资额度是一个必然趋势。业界担心,延期之后涨价恐也将被提上日程。
  “嫌贫爱富”日益成为多国投资移民的标签。据介绍,加拿大有意上调80万加元的投资移民门槛。
  加拿大自2011年7月起限制投资移民数量,并从今年7月1日起暂停受理新案。该国移民部长康尼(Jason Kenney)强调,政府施政首要目标仍是经济及就业增长,因此对移民积案问题严肃以待;大量积案有碍加拿大吸收全球顶尖人才,并拖慢经济及就业增长。康尼称,加拿大的移民计划被廉价销售,而全球有数以百万计的富人想移民加拿大,所以必须提高门槛。他曾在不同场合提及,即将要把投资额增加到150万加元,并且把被动投资的方式改变为主动方式。
  英国的做法略显直接。目前该国实施的投资移民政策,大幅放宽了对持有巨额资产人士的签证限制,鼓励海外投资者赴英定居投资,并缩短了申请所需时间。根据新规定,海外移民投资金额增加越多,获得永久居留资格所需时间越短。
  连一向移民相对容易的新加坡近年来也大幅提高拒签率。新加坡经管局(EDB)下属投资移民的投资要求,已从原先的150万新币提高到250万新币。
  澳大利亚在这方面也不示弱。澳大利亚移民部长鲍文(Chris Bowen)5月宣布设立重要投资者签证的意向,8月29日发布相关细则。从今年11月24日开始,商业移民申请人只要在澳洲投资500万元便可以申请快速投资签证。鲍文在声明中称:“500万元底额对于有意义的投资贡献而言绰绰有余,申请这一签证时,不用达到相关考试分数,没有年龄上限要求并减少了居住年限要求等。”鲍文表示,新签证政策的颁发,是因为想吸引能够保持澳洲经济竞争力的人才。澳大利亚政府并不希望从西方引进这些百万富翁,而是希望吸引来自东方特别是中国的投资者。该国移民局的数据也显示,近几年澳大利亚商业移民每年获签的人数达1,000多人。按每位投资移民500万澳元的政策要求最低值来估算,中国投资移民一年贡献给澳大利亚的财富最少也达到32亿元人民币。
  “水涨船高”的投资移民是否只是一些深陷金融危机亟待资金解渴国家的一厢情愿?
  加拿大苏菲亚移民事务所负责人黄慧真表示,加拿大多年来以对移民友善享誉国际,因此成为许多移民者的首选。贸然宣布暂停受理新申请案,恐伤害得来不易的国家形象,将有意移民的海外投资资金拱手让予其它国家。
  一些具有移民意愿的人士普遍表示,澳大利亚的投资金额大大超出了可接受范围。宁波的李女士接受澳洲新快网采访时表示,500万澳元是遥不可及的一笔钱,并强调这只是澳洲政府赚钱的一个手段罢了,能不能真正移民还要看很多条件,有钱也未必能移民。留澳十余年并已获澳大利亚永居权的Tina则认为:“这个政策对于我们这些努力在澳大利亚学习的留学(微博)生来说太不公平了。”
  “愈加严苛”的技术移民
  投资移民一度是移民热潮的主流,但随着各国纷纷增长价码,令许多申请者望而却步,转而投向技术移民。相对于“水涨船高”的投资移民,法国、英国、澳大利亚、加拿大等多国技术移民的条件也日趋严苛。
  法国从今年1月1日起已正式开始要求移民者的法语程度达到欧标B1。英国也出台相关规定,对高端人才的定义相当之严苛,新政更被资深移民律师解读为:“基本上把依靠技术移民渠道寻求在英国永久居留的路‘已经堵死’了”。
  澳大利亚技术移民今年7月1日后推行新的评分标准和申请流程。对中国申请者来说,语言成为第一个关卡,第二个就是在年龄和工作经验加分上综合择优。


  技术移民政策变化最大的堪称加拿大。先于6月通过“一刀切”的C-38法案,将28万人的申请积压案件作废,其中绝大部分属于技术移民积案。移民部长康尼当时称,现行技术移民甄选系统造成新移民失业或大材小用,因此加拿大将师法新西兰的两段式甄选办法,以施行技术移民改革。他重申,未来会更重视申请人的语言能力及教育质量,并以海外学经历认证全国架构(national framework)为基础,协助海外申请人在移民前取得本地专业认证资格,或了解欠缺的训练与课程。与此同时,澳大利亚也即将引进这种甄别方法。
  此后,加拿大移民部于8月17日公布全面更新的“三线”联邦技术移民政策,并分为计分技术移民、技工移民及加拿大经验三大类型;新计分制的主调将语言要求提升至“最重要的甄选移民因素”,并设立最低语言要求标准;所有海外学历必须经过认证、等同加国学历才有资格提出移民申请;以及提高18至35岁的年龄分数、47岁以后零分等。评论普遍认为,新政策的结果,将会带来更多欧洲语系移民,中国移民势必减少。
  面对各项严苛的新规,“另辟蹊径”或将成为申请者圆移民梦的利器。以加拿大为例,据悉,目前,该国对“博士类”高素质人才移民持欢迎态度,移民新计划每年容许1,000名在加深造的外籍博士生申请该国永久居民身份。“先留学、再移民”实现移民加拿大梦的途径仍然可以达成。
  荷兰商务与政策研究所的调查显示,近年来该国对专业人才的需求量极大,今年为5万人,明年将增至7.5万,但所需专业领域较为严格。该国需要的人才,大多拥有电讯、信息、金融、教育、农业等领域的专业背景和技能,但尤其引人关注的是,这些人才多数来自中国和印度。
  与对资金的要求越来越高不同,新西兰对技术移民申请和批准数量比较多,主要是通过对申请者的学历、工作经验、年龄、英语水平以及在新西兰亲属关系等条件进行衡量综合打分,以决定申请人是否符合移民资格的签证。在这样的情况下,抓紧技术移民是年轻一代最好的选择。
  “无辜躺枪”的学生移民
  随着各国政府紧缩移民政策,让在当地留学和想通过留学移民的国际学生“无辜躺枪”,留学――移民之路并不平坦。
  有中国留学生就慨叹,申请加经验类移民审批容易找工作却困难。中国留学生申请加拿大经验类别CEC普遍都算顺利,有人甚至在送出申请后的6个月即获审批,即使等候较久的个案也不超过一年半。但有移民反映,这批移民部积极挽留的国际精英人才,已有人因为找工作过程中到处碰壁而回流。不久前透过CEC申请取得移民身份的熊先生说:“对CEC申请人来说,移民申请程序似乎没有什么可以挑剔的”,“接下来找工作就困难了。”熊先生认为,如果加拿大整个大环境不是很理想,最终那些取得身份的CEC移民,还是会有高比例回流。
  在英国,联合政府上台以来就把控制海外移民增长作为重头戏,特别是以学生签证前往英国进而转换其他各类签证,而实现长期居留的各国留学生,更是政府重点盯防对象。


  英国内政部今年4月正式取消非欧盟毕业生在英工作两年的PSW签证,此决定在英国高校和留学生群体中引来强烈不满。近期,BBC新闻主页、《卫报》等英国媒体主要新闻,又聚焦到全英第一所被取消“高信任度执照”的伦敦都会大学身上。这一执照的取消,意味着这所大学暂时无法继续招收欧盟之外留学生,目前在读的学生也无法在该校继续学业。
  就闹得沸沸扬扬的这一“禁招”事件,英国华威大学(University of Warwick)名誉校长理查德•兰伯特明确指出,“政府的这一举动无疑让越来越多的人认为英国不欢迎留学生,并且打算几乎不声不响地断送他们的教育前程。与此同时,澳大利亚、加拿大、德国和法国等国却在争先恐后地吸引世界各地的学生。就连911之后收紧移民政策的美国也在思变,考虑允许特定学科的外国研究生在该国呆更久的时间。”
  事件引发多方人士的不满。批评人士称英国内政部做出的“禁招令”,是借打击“假留学生”之名“杀鸡儆猴”,警告英国其它高校从严招生,帮助保守党承诺的把英国净移民人数降低每年10万以下的目标。
  新加坡政府缩紧移民政策,令在当地接受教育的中国留学生也无不关心日后的出路,担心毕业后找不到工作。日前,在南洋理工大学举行的“移民政策与职业发展”讲座上,700名出席者主要是在当地大学求学的中国留学生。讲座主讲者之一、亚鹰猎头公司管理董事及创始人叶慧莲表示,她非常清楚这些学生的疑虑,却也指出这样的疑虑是多余的。拥有近20年招聘行业经验的叶慧莲说,受政策变化影响的主要是低技能的移民人口,拥有高学历和高技能的专业人士不必担心。“资讯科技业、金融业、医疗业等高增值的产业都急需请人。”
  “移民容易”一直是澳大利亚吸引中国留学生的的优势之一。然而,受金融危机影响,澳洲政府为保证当地居民就业,收紧了移民政策,不但减少了移民配额,而且程序也更加复杂。7月起,新的移民打分体系开始正式实施,这意味着澳大利亚在接受移民时将变得更加严格。专家表示,新政策的实施令相当大部分在澳即将毕业或在读留学生的移民梦破碎。虽然早前针对中国三类学生的申请政策做出了调整,间接放宽了中国留学生的签证要求,但对于大部分就读高中、本科和授课式研究生课程的学生却并没有直接受惠。
  “冷酷从紧”的亲属移民
  华人历来有重视家庭观念的传统,家乡亲人尤其是父母成为那些率先走出国门、移民海外的人心中永远割舍不下的牵挂。在取得住在国相关身份符合规定后,申请亲属移民、实现全家团聚是他们移民梦的延续。然而,实现起来却遭遇移民政策“冷酷从紧”的考验。
  今年伊始,法国收紧移民政策,严审移民入籍和家庭团聚。法国内政部长盖昂1月10日宣布,设定的有关移民问题目标都已达到。盖昂指出,去年颁发18.2595万份居留证,2010年是18.9455万份,下降3.6%。家庭团聚移民下降14%。为“加强控制移民”,盖昂表示,将启动打击非法移民法、入籍法、家庭团聚法等行为。内政部长以假结婚为例,主张“我们应当继续更好地控制入籍的条件”,“加倍努力改革家庭团聚法”。
  此后,法国前总统萨科奇又于2月表示,“家庭团聚”或将与住房收入挂钩。他说:“我们对家庭团聚的规定做了改革,现在根据申请人的住房和收入条件来批准。批准的数目已从每年2.5万减到1.5万。这证明靠坚定的意志是行得通的,包括移民政策在内。”


  无独有偶,继今年早些时候收紧发放技术工人和留学生签证之后,英国政府5月10日再宣布提高英国公民海外亲属赴英团聚的门槛,进一步控制移民数量。英国首相卡梅伦宣布,申请到英国团聚的亲属要能讲英语,要有足够的现金维持日常生活,而不是指望在英领取救济金,增加纳税人负担。英国政府正在考虑为打算将亲属接到英国的人设定最低收入标准。
  6月,英国内政部宣布了家庭团聚类移民新政细则,一石激起千层浪。此次细则主要变化在收入和年限两个方面对签证申请家庭加以限制。这一改革主要针对的是非欧盟国家和地区,即将申请或需要续签家庭团聚类签证的申请人。新政策从7月9日起实施。首先,以前的配偶签证并不涉及薪资要求,而最新出台的政策则增加了配偶签证保证人的最低年薪为18600英镑,有孩子的家庭,收入最低标准为22400,每增加一个孩子,收入限制相应提高2400镑,以此类推。新细则还废除了海外居住超过4年的英籍人士配偶即可直接申请英国永居的相关规定。此外,2013年10月开始,所有家庭类签证申请人必须通过Life in the UK! Test测试,并需提供英语听说能力达到B1级(中级1等,雅思(微博)4.0-4.5水平)以上的证明,否则将被限期离境。
  一些将亲属移民与经济实力相挂钩的新政则更让华人申请者无奈。今年5月15日,新西兰移民局暂停父母类移民申请的受理,并于7月30日推行全新的“父母类团聚移民的政策”。新政规定,财力雄厚家庭的申请将得到优先处理,而经济条件普通的申请人,则不得不忍受漫长的等待。此外,还有大量在政策变更前已递送至移民局的父母类团聚移民申请正在等待处理。专家表示,新政凸显了新西兰政府“嫌贫爱富”的取向,经济条件好的申请人将更容易移民。
  依据新政规定,家庭收入将成为移民局考虑移民标准的最重要因素,而非语言能力、工作能力等。只要移民的主申请人“长期保证收入”达到每年27,203新币(连带配偶申请则需达39,890新币/年),或能为新西兰带来50万新币的置业资金,移民局就会将其列入“优先类”,迅速受理其移民申请。
  这也意味着,家庭条件普通的父母类移民申请人可能要等上5至7年,这无疑令人感到难以接受。在5月16日前就递交了父母类团聚移民申请的中国移民Kathy Lin表示,她和丈夫一直想担保父亲赴新,但却被告知可能需要等上5年,“这太荒谬了,他爸爸已经70多岁了,在等待的这些年里,我们真不知道会发生什么,当初我们申请把他接来的初衷就是想陪他一起度过晚年。”
  当然,也不是所有国家都对亲人相聚设置种种障碍。在父母、祖父母依亲方面,加拿大从2011年秋季起大幅增加每年配额,并暂停受理新案两年。同时新推出“超级签证”(Super Visa),让等候依亲者前往加拿大与亲人团聚,最长两年,该计划广受欢迎。
  “状况不一”的非法移民
  面对各国迥异的政策,非法移民的处境“状况不一”。在波兰、意大利、美国等国,一些新政的推行使部分无证移民终于拨云见日取得合法身份;然而,在英国、葡萄牙、博茨瓦纳等更多国家加大打击力度下,非法移民处境依然十分艰难。
  9月中旬,美国国土安全部披露,奥巴马政府已经批准29名非法移民延迟递解出境并获取工作许可的申请。他们成为被赞为美国近30年来最大移民政策改变的首批受益者。
  美国总统奥巴马6月宣布停止遣返部分非法移民,这项为奥巴马赢回不少选票的准“大赦”政策,在8月15日正式生效的第一天申请者大排长龙。这项政策预计将使176万人受益,大受包括亚裔在内的美国少数族裔的欢迎。根据这项新政策,符合免遭遣返的年轻非法移民标准包括,非法进入美国时年龄应低于16岁,目前年龄应在30岁以下,必须在美国生活至少连续五年,必须美国高中毕业或者通过全美承认的替代高中毕业生文凭的“一般教育发展考试”(GED),或者仍在学校就读或者在军队服役,而且必须没有犯罪记录。


  据悉,按照目前的申请进度,到11月6日大选时,至少有20万年轻非法移民会勇敢地提出申请,至少数以千计的人会被批准和获得工作证。这使美国非法移民看到了未来。
  如果说美国的“暂缓遣返”令是准“大赦”,波兰、意大利的大赦则给了无数非法移民希望。
  波兰政府今年对在波兰境内非法居住的外国人给予大赦,规模之大前所未有。据称,此次大赦对象主要是针对从2007年12月20日后在波兰境内非法居住的外国人,以及2010年1月1日后在波兰申请难民资格被拒绝的外国人。据华沙外国人管理办公室统计,自今年1月1日至4月4日波兰大赦申请人数已突破5,000人。据波兰华人资讯网报道,4月4日统计,波兰大赦申请人数5,066人,华人申请232人,已大赦42人。
  年初开始,意大利将大赦非法移民的消息成为许多无居留权华人关注的焦点。根据该国政府公布的相关政策,意大利大赦将从9月15日开始,希望参加此次非法移民合法化政策移民雇主必须在9月15日至10月15日之间递交申请,同时申请人至少已经非法打工三个月,而且其雇主必须与其签订全工合同,在申请的时候签订居留合同的雇主必须证明其已经至少合法纳税6个月,同时还要必须为每一位参加合法化的非法移民缴纳1000欧元作为捐款,之前不能从个人所得税当中扣除,此外非法移民在参加此次合法化时必须证明其在2011年12月31日之前已经进入意大利,并且有关证明必须由公共机构出具等。
  相对于个别国家的大赦,大多数国家仍对非法移民施行从紧政策。
  即便在准“大赦”进行得如火如荼的美国,反对非法移民的声音依然很有市场。虽然有些年轻非法移民为暂缓遣返令雀跃鼓舞,但有些非法移民对该政策却有很深的疑虑,不敢贸然行动,因为不知提出申请后是福是祸。而美国共和党8月23日成形的移民政策党纲,亦表明将采取强硬立场对待非法移民。达拉斯市郊小城农民市(Farmers Branch)甚至禁止非法移民在该城租屋。
  在英国,边境管理局的官员理查德•泰勒(Richard Taylor)说:“非法劳工对英国社会产生了严重影响,他们从那些有合法居留、工作权利的人的手中抢走了工作的机会。这些非法劳工利用的就是廉价出售他们的劳动力。”“我们需要传递给英国的非法居留者的信息是,他们必须离开,我们会采取一切行动移除那些违反英国移民法的人。”他还特别强调:“英国边境管理局下定决心解决非法劳工的问题,我们呼吁有线索的公众,向我们举报那些蔑视英国移民法律的人。”
  俄罗斯联邦移民局局长康斯坦丁•罗莫达诺夫斯基在8月9日举办的政府会议上说,移民局起草了刑法典修正案,已于7月30日提交给政府,旨在加强对组织非法移民的责任追究力度。此外,俄罗斯还将加强对违反引进外国公民既定程序的雇主的责任追究力度。
  随着10月8日葡萄牙新移民法即将正式实施日期的临近,引发当地华人社会的暂时性恐慌。部分中餐馆、百元店及华人批发仓库业主鉴于新移民法中“使用黑工可判坐牢”惩罚条款的严重性,已经提前辞退无居留工人或者事先委婉打好招呼。与此同时,为了搭上新移民法实施以前的最后一班车,部分无居留侨胞均使出浑身解数,或马上预约,或请律师查询申请进展,也有部分因为缺少签证或者自认申请无望的侨胞,经人介绍紧急加入老外的法律援助协会,以期日后遇到检查或相关严重事态时可以得到法律方面的帮助。(作者:陆春艳)







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今我来思 : 2012-10-07#99
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一刀切后台老板坦白登场:
总理哈珀裸体画在安省京士顿一图书馆展出,数月前有人向安省人权委员会投诉此事,安省人权委员会近日驳回了这个投诉。


安省人权委员会说,关于安省京士顿Frontenac图书馆展出总理哈珀裸体画一事,该委员会没有权力评判此事。
亚省圣亚伯特市(St. Albert)司徒华(Curtis Stewart)今年5月向安省人权委员会投诉说,安省京士顿Frontenac图书馆展出了总理哈珀裸体画,此举侵害了他的权益。
安省人权委员会今年6月19日作出了裁定,向司徒华说明了缘由,并给司徒华一个月时间作出回应,但司徒华没有回应,因此安省人权委员会即判定司徒华放弃。
总理哈珀裸体画今年春季在安省京士顿Frontenac图书馆展出时,引发了很大的反弹。

这幅取名为「皇帝高级时装」(Emperor Haute Couture)画作描述了一丝不挂的哈珀正脸带微笑地斜靠在躺椅上,一只宠物犬在他脚边,一名穿西服的妇女端着由银色盘子装的Tim Hortons咖啡给哈珀。
此画的作者苏赛兰(Margaret Sutherland)声称,联邦政府取消了人口普查中的长问卷调查表和取消了数个监狱农场,她想藉此画表达对这些决定的不满。
这幅画的题目受安徒生童话「皇帝的新装」的启发。画作在京士顿图书馆展出不久之后,就被人以5000元的价格买走。
图为作者苏赛兰今年5月站在安省京士顿Frontenac图书馆展出的哈珀裸体画前。(加通社)

今我来思 : 2012-10-07#100
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I Think Jason Kenney is Gay

Posted in Unfounded Speculation on March 7th, 2010 by Stephen DeGrace
Topics: Gay Stuff, Politics
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Jason Kenney, Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, image from Wikipedia. (Larger Image)


Recently, CBC news ran a story about how Jason Kenney, the Conservative federal government's Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, had the short discussion about gay rights in Canada removed from the new edition of the handbook that immigrants seeking citizenship must study. Kenney's office received the draft handbook, with the references to gay rights in Canada, and the minister's office issued a memo ordering it be deleted. The authors of the handbook asked the minister to reconsider and were refused. I wrote a comment on the CBC article, which was not approved by the moderators, where I stated that I have always thought that Jason Kenney was gay, and that this is a classic self-hating closet-case move.

Apparently that comment was too radical to approve, although many comments were approved openly calling Jason Kenney a bigot or worse. So apparently, according to the supposed bastion of liberalism, the CBC, saying that someone is a bigot is non-actionable fair comment, but saying that someone is gay is a slander beyond the pale.
Incidents like this should serve as a reminder that gay rights are not as firmly entrenched in our society as we would like to believe, and haters like Kenney can still get their hands on the levers of power to try and erode the equality of gay and lesbian Canadians. But let's forget about that for now and look at the specific incident and what it says about Kenney.
The details of the incident are damning. First of all, equality for gays and lesbians, including marriage rights, is a very important fact about Canada which is very different from the situation in the countries the majority of our immigrants come from. So the department responsible for preparing the new edition of the study guide added a concise section on the status of gays in Canada. The document was sent to the minister's office for review and this section, and apparently no other, was nixed. When pressed for an explanation, all Kenney would say is that the document can't be "encyclopedic," as though this extremely unusual social situation in Canada were a triviality unworthy of even a mention.
Then to top it off, Kenney later flat-out lied about having the section on gay rights removed from the guide.
Granted, Kenney is a long-time outspoken opponent of gay and lesbian equality, and the Conservative party is filled with haters, but my strong first impression was that this is coming from somewhere deeper than just anti-gay ideology. I have suspected Kenney of being a closet homosexual since back during his days as the Official Virgin of the Canadian Alliance, and this incident only strengthens my impression. I think a straight man, however homophobic, would not go out of his way the way Kenney did to remove the reference, particularly when there was no political gain to be had from it. A straight man would not scan through the document zooming in on gay references with laser-like precision, either. Kenney did say he left in a reference in a photo caption to the sexual orientation of Olympic swimmer Mark Tewksbury as evidence he didn't have it in for gays, but to my mind that just underlines Kenney's particular interest in the topic that he could still rhyme off every passing reference to gays in the guide.
As I said above, this is all classic self-hating closet-case behavior. The icing on the cake is that Kenney is by his own admission a 40-year-old virgin (older than that, now!) and does not plan to have sex until he gets married (presumably to a member of the opposite sex - it really takes forty years to find the right gal, Jason?).
If it weren't for his recent hijinx where he showed himself to be a lying, passive-aggressive bigot and weasel, I might find a perverse sort of honour in Kenney's stance. He certainly had honesty and integrity in his beliefs, WRONG though they may be... but I think that this episode just goes to prove that not all points of view are equally valid, there is such a thing as absolute truth and better and worse representations of it. The fundamental perverseness and lack of integrity of the anti-gay position is ultimately morally corrosive, as is the tissue of lies that a closet-case like Kenney needs to weave to maintain a relationship with the world even if he refuses to marry for expedience. No matter what lengths you go to to try and hold an untenable position with integrity, the lack of internal integrity of the position itself will always get you in the end.
And it is with that in mind that I, as a humanitarian, am offering Jason Kenney some advice. Sweetheart, while the gay male world is not the evil place you imagine it to be, it does, however, happen to be composed of men, and therefore tends to be focused on things like youth and beauty, which you, being a man, if you were honest with yourself, could no doubt appreciate. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're not getting any younger, and you're definitely not getting any prettier. You've already wasted the best years of your life and pissed away the happiness and fulfilment you could have had on false and meaningless religious convictions. Before you fritter away what's left, you might want to reconsider your position. And, also, get to the gym.
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On April 4th, 2010 Emilia wrote:
The last sentence made me laugh. I have to scan articles on Jason Kenney, so I once absentmindedly remarked that Jason Kenney was a "chubby dub" within earshot of my two-year-old daughter. So now whenever I have to read over my articles on Kenney and say the name "Jason Kenney" out loud my daughter screams, "Chubby dub!"
I can't say whether Kenney is gay or not, and frankly, to me it really doesn't matter that much. However, I just want to say that even if he is, family values hypocrisy is hardly the exclusive domain of the Conservative Party. Remember Tom Wappel? He was the self-styled "family man," opposed to same-sex marriage, abortion, and what not but later took up with a (female) staffer. Well, he was a Liberal, not a Conservative.
Finally, and this might be a bit jarring, but even if I don't for example share Kenney's views on same-sex marriage (I joke I don't have any particular problem with gay marriage in particular, just with the concept of marriage in general), I do think he's made some sensible decisions regarding immigration. Again, even in that arena I don't approve of everything he's done, but for example, reforming the refugee system is in my view a must. I mean it's a bit of a joke that people from a democratic country like the Czech Republic are coming here claiming persecution back home. And I agree with Kenney that the refugee system needs to be reformed, even if I might not agree with 100% of the changes he makes.
So this is my take on Kenney.

On April 4th, 2010 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
Hi Emilia,
Thanks for your comments! Since no one pretty much reads this blog, it's really nice to get a bit of reaction to be article :).
There's really no comparison between the Conservatives and the Liberals on the issue of gay rights, though. Tom Wappel is certainly a low down sack of shit. He's also on the *fringe* of his party. Tom Wappel never got near any Liberal cabinet - the closest he ever achieved to respectability was as a critic (ironically, for immigration) in the early 90's, which he managed to flub by taking extreme positions. Whereas, Jason Kenny is a cabinet star, is talked about as a possible leadership contender, and represents very much the mainstream of his party.
The Liberal party is a big-tent party with at most a watered-down ideology compromised for the realities of seeking power, and the Conservatives have part of their roots in such a party, so you get all kinds in both camps... but taken as a whole, the two parties are miles apart on gay rights. I think that would be much clearer if the Conservatives had a majority and felt less need to muzzle their huge social conservative caucus. Forget about gay marriage, there is a significant proportion of the Conservative party which would be in favour of recriminalizing homosexuality.
And frankly, I'm sick and tired of jackass self-hating closet cases like Jason Kenney heaping shit on gays, regardless of their political affiliation or lack thereof. I'm not saying his record is all bad in every area of his work, or that the Conservative party is all bad, for that matter. Certainly a more conservative tilt on immigration (ironically, in part to protect our liberal society from being flooded by illiberal newcomers- c.f.the Netherlands) is probably long overdue in Canada. But regardless, there is no way in hell he deserves a pass for his anti-gay actions, nor does the Conservative party in any way deserve to receive a pass for what Kenney's actions say about them as a group.
On the whole, I want to see Kenney go *down*.

On April 5th, 2010 Emilia wrote:
You by the way are not the only person who's speculated that Kenney might be gay. I myself remain agnostic on the issue... but if it turns out he is he should be remembered as the biggest hypocrite in Canadian politics.

On April 5th, 2010 Emilia wrote:
Here's some of the speculation I've run into:
http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2010/03/what-fuck-is-jason-kenney-babbling.html
http://queer-liberal.blogspot.com/2008/09/that-creepy-little-jason-kenney-guy.html


On April 20th, 2010 Emilia wrote:
As a (heterosexual) woman I understand your apprehension about illiberal immigrants coming to Canada - and they don't have to be Muslim; I once dated a Lebanese Christian man whose views on women made Sigmund Freud look like a radical feminist. Also, I have to commend the Netherlands for putting their foot down and insisting that immigrants to the country embrace Dutch values. I understand the Dutch pride themselves on being tolerant, but there should be a limit to "tolerating the intolerant."
In fact, though I don't share either his gender or his sexual orientation, I find the late Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn an inspiration. RIP, Pim.

On October 20th, 2010 Sarif wrote:
I don't like Jason Kenney, he is telling the Lost Canadians to get lost, hates LGBT people and agree he maybe a fellow gay but poking at the fact he is fat. It just cheapens your writing down to that of a 4chan thread.
Now don't get me wrong here, I don't care about his feelings.

On October 20th, 2010 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
Hey, I'm not the one who called him fat, that was you ;). I just suggested in a subtle way that he might want to get to the gym if he wants to enjoy the good gay years he has left ;). Men are shallow. And it's actually not unreasonable to be be more attracted to people who take care of themselves physically. Despite what some people believe, getting laid is not an inalienable human right.

On November 17th, 2010 Emilia Liz wrote:
There aren't any gays who like fat men? I know some straight men like fat women - well, not all; my brother, for instance, nearly ripped my head off when I tried to set him up with a fat girl - but Kenney just might find a "market" among some gays if he really is gay. By the way, my daughter's favourite refrain now is "Jason Kenney, get to the gym!"

On November 17th, 2010 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
Haha yes I have to give you that one. Still, my observation is that it's a bit of a specialized market, to put it delicately. Of course, naturally enough, a lot of guys do find power itself intoxicating, so maybe that's a card Jason could think of playing while he's still in government.

On November 17th, 2010 Emilia Liz wrote:
I also joke that I'm sure one reason Jason Kenney likes being Minister of Multiculturalism is that he can go to all the ethnic festivals and eat all the food there.

On November 17th, 2010 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
Good point. Jason does look like a man who enjoys his perogies.

On November 24th, 2010 Emilia Liz wrote:
Either you've got ESP or you're closely following Mr. Kenney's itinerary, because he recently attended a Polish function so I'm sure he enjoyed his perogies there.
By the way, speculating on Kenney's actions vis-a-vis the citizenship guide, if it is true he is gay, he might be one of a long line of homophobic gay men. One example is Bishop Eddie Long, a Baptist pastor in the United States who spoke out strongly against same-sex marriage but who was apparently seducing teenage boys in his charge. So maybe a strongly homophobic man should raise suspicions.
On the other hand, I don't get the impression that most famous homophobic women - of which there are probably fewer than men - are closet lesbians. Rather, it seems like the majority of them are women who extol the virtues and sanctity of "the family" and appeal to the innocence of "the children" but who behind their facade lead desperately unhappy family lives. One example is the country singer Anita Bryant, who campaigned against gay teachers in California in the '70s (the "Save Our Children" campaign) and who later divorced her husband saying he had put her up to her anti-gay activity.
That's my observation anyway. Any thoughts?

On November 29th, 2010 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
That's an interesting observation, and I don't really have much to add. Of course I have noted as have many others the link between virulent homophobia and closet homosexuality in men... but I have to confess I hadn't given much thought to the parallel situation in women. I have to say that I think you're right, homophobia in women seems to be more an exercise in social control, and perhaps you are right that it is an act of compensation.

On March 26th, 2011 Emilia wrote:
On the subject of Kenney's girth, I found this:
http://www.uglychinesecanadian.com/?p=3485

On April 15th, 2011 Conservative Insider wrote:
Actually, the original poster is right. I had a friend who worked at Kenney's Office and my friend attested to the fact that Kenney is Gay. In fact, he had an affair with his 20 something executive assistant named Jamie Ellerton! John Baird is Gay too!

On April 15th, 2011 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
I've heard that about Baird. John Baird at least has an honourable voting record - he voted against the motion to reopen the issue of same-sex marriage.
Just because you're gay doesn't define your political temperament, and of course lots of gay men are conservative, and that's OK. A person's sexuality is not necessarily the single most important part of their character and priorities, and I can see how a person like Baird might support a mostly anti-gay party if its politics support principles he weighs as more important to him. So I don't have to like Baird's politics or personality, but I don't begrudge him the right to hold his political opinions or support his party. He hasn't sold his soul to do so, and I think if we were honest with ourselves we would all find that we have some hypocrisy ion our associations. I actually respect John Baird.
I don't know how people like Jason Kenney sleep at night, though. If what we think about Jason Kenney is correct, he's a man with no integrity.

On April 30th, 2011 J.R. wrote:
I'm gay and find him attractive. He's what we call bears. The heavy set type of men are usually called this. So yeah there is a market for him. Come out Jason!

On June 12th, 2011 Emilia wrote:
Well, to each his (or her) own. It's funny; a (heterosexual female) colleague and I were discussing the other day who we thought was better looking, Jason Kenney or his Ontario counterpart, Minister Eric Hoskins. She said Kenney; I said Hoskins.
Regarding fat men, personally, if I were back on the mating market, I can't say a man's weight would be a deal-breaker for me, but having dated a fat man before (the above-mentioned Lebanese man), there would be a few things to watch out for. First, at least with that guy, the missionary position was basically out - though here I think part of the reason was that I'm very thin, almost underweight. Also, fat men are more likely to suffer from erectile dysfunction, which happened in my case (another complicating factor here too: he blamed me for it). Maybe on average straight women are more likely to accept fatness in a partner than straight men (and gay men?) are. So I'm not saying I'd rule out a fat man as a lover, but I might be on guard for certain things.
Now to Kenney as a politician, to give the devil his due, so to speak, I have to commend him for speaking out in the recent citizenship guide against 'barbaric practices' like honour killing and female circumcision. He risked being labelled as racist, which he was called. Unfortunately some so-called liberals are scared excrementless - pardon the pun - of being called racist, so they don't take a strong stance against sexist cultural practices in non-Western cultures. So even if I don't agree with Kenney on things like same-sex marriage (if he's still against it), I have to give him credit for calling a spade a spade.
Anyway, that's it for me!

On June 13th, 2011 Joan wrote:
It doesn't bother me whether Jason Kenney is gay or not. You are what you are. But to deny citizenship to those of Canadian descent, Lost Canadians, whose families have lived here for generations, fighting for the country, toiling through hard work and making the country what it is today is quite plainly wrong. I doubt very much whether Mr Kenney would like to be discriminated against if he is gay, so why is he discriminating against those born in wedlock before 1947 to Canadian Mothers or those born out of wedlock to Canadian fathers.

On July 19th, 2011 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
Sorry, folks, I had a problem with my comment system on the site and I did not see and approve these comments until long after they were posted. All a part of the never-ending battle to deal with comment spam without losing the meaningful comments! I think I have it finally worked out, though.
Emilia, I agree whole-heartedly with the points you made at the bottom of your last comment... this is an area where the Conservatives (and conservatives, small-c) have a real strength. They can call a spade a spade and a genital mutilation a genital mutilation without being paralyzed by an intellectual quasi-religion of cultural relativism which prevents many intellectual feminists, who should be at the forefront of the fight against such practices at home and around the world, from mounting a meaningful attack.
So props to Jason on that point - not that he was likely to take the slightest bit of flak from his base on that, so his risk was much diminished from the courage it would take a liberal to make such a statement or permit it to be made (since in a liberal's case it would be your friends and colleagues trying to eviscerate you). Nevertheless, it was a courageous stance in the sense that it would not be universally popular and could cost him some votes without necessarily balancing out as more votes elsewhere, and I applaud him for his moral uprightness and intestinal fortitude in making it.

On August 8th, 2011 Emilia wrote:
I'm glad your site is back on track, and thank you for your response to my comment.
I just wanted to add that I'm not so familiar with the gay scene, but I have heard of some gays questioning the cultural relativism that, as you say, passes for a kind of religion in much of the left-wing world. One gay forum I spotted some time ago noted that some liberals who wouldn't hesitate to condemn the stupid but relatively harmless Fred "God hates fags" Phelps (though last thing I heard he was going to picket the funeral of Liz Taylor, who as far as I know was NOT a lesbian) would just nod their heads at some imam in the Middle East who calls for gays to be hung. I think even some liberal women, like myself, are starting to question this reluctance to criticize sexism abroad on the part of some left-wingers, so maybe gays are starting to do the same.

On August 8th, 2011 I'mnotgay wrote:
Gay or not, either way it would involve seeing him with his clothes off, and I, for one, don't want to go there.

On August 9th, 2011 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
LOL @ I'mnotgay. I'm sure that's a risk none of us wish to take.
Emilia, I think the secular religion of cultural relativism is firmly in decline along with the pseudo-intellectual discipline of cultural studies which helped to spawn it. These days many of us acknowledge the existence of a complex and inborn human nature and an objective reality, including an objective moral reality based in innate human nature, which allows us to condemn atrocities like genital mutilation and otherwise make moral judgements on the practices of other cultures.
After all, if it is not possible to make objective judgements about the practices of other cultures, how is it possible to make such judgements about our own? Saying that sexism is wrong in our own culture, or that Fred Phelkps is a dick, are precisely such judgements. Somewhere, a healthy admonition not to rush to judgement in situations we don't necessarily properly understand has mutated into a general surrender of all judgement.
Cultural relativism makes a convenient stick to beat the left with, and deservedly so, but it is not at all representative of the entire secular left, and less so with each passing day as its intellectual vacuity is laid bare. This poisonous philosophy is not necessary to support principles of liberalism, and the sooner it finally dies, the better.
Given that women and gays are the principal targets of the brutality of many of the foreign cultures we are supposed to accept uncritically, I think the fact there is a problem with this kind of thinking is or should be more evident to us and it is not surprising that many gays and feminists and leaving that particular sinking ship.

On August 13th, 2011 a policy refugee wrote:
Mark Twain said God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board. I say Jason Kenney came before the school board.

On September 9th, 2011 Russell Barth wrote:
Kenny probably is a virgin because he is such a creep. I was talking to someone who used to work with him and he was HAMMERED at an xmas party and hitting on every woman, trying to get his nut.
The reason he is a virgin is because he couldn't get lucky in a women's prison with a handful of pardons. He is a creep.

On September 9th, 2011 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
Wow, Russell, that's a colourful image! Well done! :)

On September 14th, 2011 Emilia wrote:
So Kenney's not gay after all? (Not that I'd be romantically interested in him; I tend to be attracted to Black and Hispanic men.)

On September 14th, 2011 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
I'm sticking with my hypothesis :). One anecdote against a much larger body of anecdotal evidence suggesting the opposite. Besides, he may just have been just sober enough to take the opportunity to make a show of hitting on women in his drunken state.

On September 15th, 2011 Emilia wrote:
Maybe we should have a betting pool on whether Kenney is straight or gay (with small odds that he's bisexual; some sources say that true bisexuality is rare in men and that some self-declared male bisexuals are 100% gay in reality - i.e. Elton John). I'm still agnostic about Kenney - though I don't know; more and more I'm sort of leaning towards the 'gay' side. Even him hitting on women, I know that 'in vinum veritas,' but somehow I think if he were really drunk, he'd been hitting on one woman, not a whole bunch, so maybe it was just a show.
And we may never know for sure. Even his single status doesn't really say much; plenty of heterosexuals remain unmarried. Or perhaps he's basically asexual and isn't really interested in individuals of either sex.

On September 18th, 2011 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
I want to tell a story about an old friend in a group I used to hang out with who we were all sure was gay, but I'm not sure how much I should say. Anyway, there was a lot of ambiguity, and evidence planted (including under the influence of alcohol) that could support the hypothesis that he was straight, but it turned out we were right and years later he came out. I guess the point is, hitting on women absolutely doesn't prove anything, drunk or not.
I actually go the other way on bisexuality. I do think that almost all men have a strong preference one way or another, but I don't think sexual orientation is usually "pure." In my own case, after I came out and accepted I liked guys, and sort of relaxed and stopped trying to like girls, I was sort of freaked out to sometimes find myself sometimes being sexually attracted to girls. I'm serious, it was actively upsetting. After going through all that hell coming to terms with being gay and coming out, having bisexual urges was one step too far lol. I think that's why a lot of gay men make a big deal about being grossed out by women - it's the mirror image of homophobia. Myself, I'm not even slightly vagophobic, and I would totally do it with a girl (and did, once, long after coming out. It was OK, I'm glad I did it once). But I'm a lot more motivated towards men, and men being pretty goal-oriented, the practical outcome is that that is a possibility I just never act on, except that one time. The stars really have to align in a funny way.
I compare it to liking chocolate or vanilla. If you like chocolate a lot more than vanilla, you are probably going to grab the chocolate pudding every time, when you have a choice. Liking chocolate doesn't automatically make you hate vanilla. Given the messiness of biology, even if most men are wired to have a strong preference one way or another, it would be very strange to me if there did not exist a significant subset with more complex or less distinct preferences.
I think a lot of straight men are the same way in reverse, and this is the source of a lot of homophobia, since the "wrong" feelings fly straight in the face of masculine identity and are upsetting - as well as the source of a considerable body of evidence that otherwise straight men will "play" with another guy "when the stars align." Quite a lot of that stuff goes on, homophobia or no.
Men and women are both physically beautiful and have the ability to appreciate the beauty of the sex they are not usually attracted to, whether they would admit it or not. And creating a pure sexual orientation in a species that is not robotically controlled by pheromones released during scheduled mating seasons is probably a tough engineering problem. The evidence suggests that a less precisely focused sexuality is still more than able to get the job done, making-little-humans-wise.
"Imprecise" sexuality is probably something with ancient roots, anyway, for reasons of mechanistic constraint, or else for deeper reasons we don't yet understand. Look how ubiquitous homosexuality is in the animal kingdom, after all.
http://www.salon.com/it/feature/1999/03/cov_15featurea.html
But anyway, back to Kenney, my money is still on "gay." We have only one life to live on this earth, and nothing recognizable (if anything) after, so he should get over it his issues and move on. Time's a-wasting.

On December 12th, 2011 Apemate wrote:
Isn't today a good day for Kenny to remove his VEIL?

On February 20th, 2012 Sharon ~ LetsTalkCandidly wrote:
Hi Stephen;
You said: "I think that would be much clearer if the Conservatives had a majority and felt less need to muzzle their huge social conservative caucus. Forget about gay marriage, there is a significant proportion of the Conservative party which would be in favour of recriminalizing homosexuality."
Hmmm ~ then how do you explain our liberal Conservative gov't, with a majority, virtually leaping all over itself to preserve the "gay marraige" or should I say "gay divorce" agenda just recently (Feb. 2012)? As a conservative, I keep waiting, and hoping, for the CPCs "hidden" agenda that liberals keep threatening about but, alas, all I get is more liberalism.


On February 21st, 2012 Stephen DeGrace wrote:
Sharon,
I explain it as strategy. A given administration only has so much time in which to accomplish anything, and so it has to pick its battles. For a move to revoke a basic civil right with broad public support, the Opposition would be willing to use every tactic in the book to draw out the Parliamentary vote. After all that, it is about 99% clear that the Supreme Court would overturn the law on the first challenge.
On top of that, not all potential Conservative voters are anti-gay, and taking a side on a polarizing issue that the majority is rapidly deciding the other way on is not a recipe for a second majority. Then you have inner-circle gay Conservatives like John Baird who support gay marriage and who have a voice at the table.
The religious Conservative faction will need years to mount an effective attack on gay marriage, and social conditions may never be right. For the moment, therefore, it makes sense not to give their opponents even the slightest opening in this area and to keep their own ideological faction disciplined and resigned to the status quo - do what it takes to keep the debate firmly closed.
Instead, Harper is using his capital where he thinks it can be spent the most profitably - changing the criminal justice system to a more punitive orientation, changing the nation's foreign policy to a more militaristic orientation, and slowly eroding Canadians' expectations of what government can and will do for them, in order to eventually dismantle much of it.

On March 5th, 2012 Kafka wrote:
Kenney definitely gives off the gay vibe
- From a Gay guy

今我来思 : 2012-10-07#101
回复: 移民部步步为营 我方兵团突围遇不作为法官Barnes

康尼向英国年轻人抛媚眼---求你们啦,来加拿大工作吧:
In an interview with Telegraph Expat, Canadian minister says he wants young Britons "to think Canada, not Australia" when looking for work abroad.

Canada is planning to woo unemployed British graduates in order to compete more fiercely with Australia for skilled young expats.

Canadian immigration minister Jason Kenney will travel to London next week as part of accelerated efforts to tackle acute labour shortages in his home country.

In an interview with Telegraph Expat, Mr Kenney said he wants to convince UK graduates who may be struggling to find jobs in recession-hit Britain to “think Canada before you think Australia”.

During his five-day trip, he is due to meet figures including the UK immigration minister Mark Harper to discuss economic opportunities for British workers.

Canada wants to attract young skilled migrants due to its ageing workforce and unfilled positions in areas such as in IT, engineering, welding and video games programming.


To entice migrants, the length of time they need to work in skilled Canadian jobs to qualify for permanent residency is being halved from two years to one. The change is likely to take effect from next January.
It is hoped this will encourage young people who go to Canada to work in gap year jobs in bars or ski resorts, but then find more skilled work, to settle in Canada in the longer term.
Mr Kenney said: “There are a lot of young Britons who are under-employed or unemployed but are highly educated.
“I think so many young Britons have, for some reason, thought of Australia before Canada as a destination for immigration, and we want to be at the front of the competition for the world’s best and brightest.”
He put Australia’s enduring appeal down to “rugby and cricket, and Neighbours, and the attraction of the weather”.
Reasons to choose Canada over Australia, he said, included its closer proximity to the UK and robust economy “the strongest in the G8”.
However, there is disagreement within Canada as to whether the government should be retraining its own workers rather than recruiting from overseas.
The row intensified last week when official statistics revealed that increasing immigration levels had pushed Canada’s population growth up by 1.1 per cent in the past year the highest rate in the G8.
Aattempts to reduce the proportion of non-English speaking migrants have also sparked charges of xenophobia, which Mr Kenney has strongly denied.
The immigration reforms have additionally involved cancelling 280,000 residency applications from people who had waited up to nine years for a decision. Legal challenges are ongoing.
Meanwhile, Australia is equally determined to compete for skilled migrants. A spokesman for Australia’s Department of Immigration and Citizenship said the Australian lifestyle and strong economy continued to be major draws.
He highlighted that Australia is ranked second on the human development index, compared with Canada’s sixth place, and has the lowest unemployment rate for migrants of any OECD country.

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Canada opens borders to Irish with new visa rules to boost recruitment
Canadian employers in Dublin to recruit employees

原来爱尔兰18-35的年轻人,加拿大给一年的工作签证,叫假期工作签证,让年轻人取得海外工作经验,是两国的文化交流项目。现在康尼正在爱尔兰,和爱尔兰副总理签了新协议,把时间延长到两年,方便他们能找到更好的工作,也方便他们申请枫叶卡。名额:2012年是5350个,2013年6350个,2014年10700个。以前09年是2500个,10年是4229个,11年是5000个。康尼说这里那么多教育程度高,适应能力强,说英语的年轻人失业,我们那里正好缺人手,蓝领白领都缺。他们去加拿大工作很容易上手。
爱尔兰副总理签完这个卖儿卖女的协议后还嘴硬说:改善经济环境,创建工作岗位是爱尔兰政府首要目标。这可以让移居海外的爱尔兰人再回来。爱尔兰政府签这个协议,不是仅仅为了眼前的卖儿卖女(意思好像是家长目前有难处,儿女们先到加拿大练练手艺,等家里生意好了,有活干了,你们再回来)。最后副总理还和康尼套近乎,说在爱尔兰投资的国家中,加拿大是其中最好的之一,爱尔兰的公司也在加拿大雇了60000个加拿大员工。

原文请看链接:http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Ca...31.html?page=1

今我来思 : 2012-10-09#103
回复: 世态炎凉 康尼部长乐见新人笑不顾旧人哭

移民部透过C-38法案「一刀切」,将2008年2月27日前(Pre-C50)送件的联邦技术移民积案作废,根据移民部2日公布的数据显示,全球共有28万多人被撤销,中港台合计,共有9455件、2万2376人遭到作废。 移民网,findjiayuan.com

另外,截至6月30日止,全球移民积案逾91万人,近40万人为技术移民,商业类逾10万人。 家园新闻,news.iask.ca


移民部2日公布的第二季业务绩效报告中,首度具体呈现受C-38法案影响的技术移民详细数据,2008年2月27日前送件的积案共10万3552件,申请人总数为29万6530人,其中4741件、1万5314名申请人因已完成最後审理(final decision),幸运逃过一劫,但并非移民部过去宣称的2万人。 加拿大家园,www.iask.ca


总计遭作废的Pre-C50申请案共9万8811件,影响28万1216人。 家园温哥华,vancouver.iask.ca

北京的Pre-C50积案共1043件、2777人,遭作废388件、979人;香港积案9186件、2万6144人,遭作废8754件、2万523人,是全球重灾区之一;台湾323件、906人中,有313件、874人遭作废。中港台合计,达9455件、2万2376人遭作废。 移民网,findjiayuan.com
受「一刀切」法案冲击最大的印度新德里共有3万3990件、9万7826人遭作废,其次为马尼拉的1万3819件、4万2411人。新加坡4174件、1万2155人。总计亚太地区共有6万2966件、17万9166人遭作废,是C-38法案最大受害者。 www.iask.ca
欧洲地区遭作废的Pre-C50积案为1万6160件、4万8247人;美洲地区2284件、5716人;非洲与中东地区1万7380件、4万8022人。 移民网,findjiayuan.com
截至6月30日止,全球移民积案共91万781人,其中技术移民39万9324人,29万972人为2008年2月27日前送件,而C50移民改革法实施後送件者有10万8352人。其他类别积案合计51万1457人,投资移民逾10万人,主要来自中国。 加拿大家园,www.iask.ca
过去12个月,北京使馆共审理553位申请人的投资移民案件,核准243人,148人遭拒,另有162人主动撤回,核准率为62%,共发出240张签证。香港领事馆审理总数为9614人,核准7510人,453人遭拒,1651人撤回,发出7450张签证,核准率高达94%。台北审理完成546人,核准489人,26人遭拒,发出503张签证,核准率95%。 本 文 来 自 加 拿 大 家 园 网
另外,抵埠移民的统计方面,今年上半年全球共有12万8321人抵埠,较去年同期增加9.4%,其中菲律宾最多,达1万6942人,但同比无增减;中国次之,1万6457人,同比大增22.6%;印度排第三,1万4937人,增幅达29.5%。其他依序为美国、巴基斯坦、法国、英国及其属地、海地、韩国、伊朗、埃及、墨西哥。台湾518人,减幅达52.2%;香港510人,大增41.3%。

今我来思 : 2012-10-09#104
回复: 世态炎凉 康尼部长乐见新人笑不顾旧人哭

李克伦:多付25万可插队移民 卑诗增300推荐名额

加拿大家园 iask.ca 2012-10-02 20:47 来源: 明报 作者: 点击: 2751次

.Kea219 { display:none; } 李克伦?多付25万可插队移民 建议卑诗增300推荐名额 加拿大家园,www.iask.ca

加拿大 家园网

李克伦 家 园 论 坛​
加拿大移民律师李克伦(Richard Kurland)昨日向移民部及卑诗省府作出「特快投资移民」的新建议,建议省推荐移民计划(BCPNP)的年度名额提增300个,让在以前40万元投资移民要求下提出申请,同时愿意多付25万元给卑诗省府的申请人,获得加速批准移民。他指计划若获接纳,可立即为省府增收7,500万元的快钱。 家 园 新 闻
省府发言人华特森(Andy Watson)指出,省推荐移民计划受限于严格法规,合资格的移民必须在本省建立企业或参与管理,此一要求等于已经「排除」李克伦建议下的申请人。 家园网多伦多,toronto.iask.ca

李克伦指出,目前在香港签证办事处,仍有1.5万宗在40万元投资要求规定下提出的申请,当中几乎全是中国富有的申请者,对他们来说,金钱并非问题。 加拿大 家园网

他建议申请人在表达参加「特快」移民计划的意愿后,在一段时间后,要将所需的投资?款至移民部指定的银行帐户,在确定收到?款后,他们的申请将获立即审理,如果有其他塬因无法获发移民签证,已投入金额则应全数煺还。 www.iask.ca
李克伦解释,「特快」计划所以针对卑诗省,是由于联邦投资移民有30%至40%最后在卑诗省落脚,因此由卑诗省府加速吸纳,最能迎合其需求。 家 园 网
加拿大 家 园 网
王仁铎 家 园 网​

移民律师王仁铎则认为,庞大积压的形成,责任在于移民部,怎么可以让申请人多付钱即能插队,即使有不少人愿意多付钱加速移民。而且有关建议只是开放300个名额,杯水车薪,对上万人仍在排队的申请人,仍是起不了作用 加拿大家园,www.iask.ca

把排队的人都当成白痴的时候,便不要怪责不排队的人 加拿大家园论坛
(王仁铎)笔者生平最怕排队,最好的电影或饭馆要排队的话,都不要找我。前些日子要去中国领事馆办点事,有份文件要去验证。因中国大陆不承认加拿大律师的公证,加拿大的律师先要去省府盖章,然后再去领事馆盖章。盖了3个章,即律师、省府和领事馆的章之后,这档才可以在中国或香港使用。 家 园 网

中国是一个大官僚主义国家,和加拿大相比有过之而无不及。试想想,在此地有这么多的大陆侨民,成为加国公民后,便要签证才能回国,于是每天便要在领事馆大排长龙。最近又因为奥运过后,申请人特别多,每天有些人清早4、5点便去排队。其实大陆大可以给加国人士1个月落地签证,但既然中国是大国,那大国之风便是做事有他自己的一套,才不管你方便不方便。总之,要验证文件也要大清早去排队取个号,因为一天只派200个号,派完就没了。 家园论坛,forum.iask.ca


这使笔者想起,中国在80年代买火车票排队,场面混乱的情况。然后便是上了火车发现位子很多,但却说票卖光了。但也想通了为什么中国人不排队的理由,塬来如果排队有应有的结果,那每人都可能去排队。但过去中国给你的锻炼是,排队往往没有好结果。排队排到你的时候,窗口便关上,票卖完了,明天再来。 本 文 来 自 加 拿 大 家 园 网

现在的温哥华领事馆也是这样。排队的结果便是,排的不够早,取不到号。这种排队没好结果,便造成人人不排队或者要走后门。 家园论坛,forum.iask.ca
擅长排队的加拿大 原来排队也没好结果 iask.ca
原来排队人太多的时候是会有问题,不只是指中国,因为擅长排队的加拿大,也会给你一个排队没好结果的方案。 本 文 来 自 家 园 网

加拿大的移民部便是这方面的专家。当移民申请人累积太多的时候,在2002年便推出移民新法,用新法淘汰等候多时的海外移民申请案。后来笔者和加东五位律师控告移民部胜利之后,又发生集体讼诉。最后政府投降,排队的人没有白排。 i a s k . c a

好了,几年过后移民部又?土重来,但这次学精了,便是把法律改到是说明以后排队都没用,部长有权不理你,只要他挑选谁,就谁可以来。这当然也是移民部想出的好东西,但保守党和上次自由党不一样的地方是,上次自由党通过新法时是在不知情的情况下,因为移民部官员向国会表示,大部份累积案会在新法生效前处理完。结果存货是动也没动,所以法官判我们胜诉。 家 园 新 闻

但这次保守党通过修改法案,则是利用反对党的软弱,把法案修改到部长决定一切的可怕局面。 160.ca

以后排队没意义:把排队的人都当成白痴的时候,便不要怪责不排队的人 iask.ca
后果是什么?后果便是以后排队是没意义的,只会有越来越多的人不守规则,不排队 、走捷径、假结婚、假文件。 i a s k . c a

在中国老百姓是受欺负的,但也不肯去白排队。加国的移民部则要和你说教,说你要守规则,但自己却动不动让人家白等数载。 iask.ca

把排队的人都当成白痴的时候,便不要怪责不排队的人。

今我来思 : 2012-10-09#105
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

1.大家觉得诉讼费一千刀太贵,我跟律师委婉提及,他说,去加拿大的机会总比一张去加拿大的机票更值钱。我无言,他说的一点没错。5年都赔进去了,还怕赔进这几张?再说,后加入的占了前面加入的人的光,虽然立案有先后,处理却是汇总到一起的,结果大家是处理时间都步调一样,不论先后。要是后加入的大减价,不炸窝了?
2.移民部完全有可能跟诉讼的律师签订秘密条款,这样保住加入诉讼的人,而没加入的就算自愿认可一刀切。这就像拿到拒签结果后,不去申诉就算认可一样,只有申诉才能获得再审理的机会。
3.律师不能打保票说官司一定能赢,但是没有一点谱的官司律师也不接。这正想医生看见没治的病人赶紧躲开一样。
4.具体到TIM律师,所有他的案子都是挂在梁栋案之下,如果后面的人完全不能同享,恐怕没法这样立案---这是我的个人看法。
5.目前加入TIM,无论是打分还是没打分,都是一个切入点,因为他正与移民部磋商,要是磋商完毕,协议签订,再有新人想加入都难。
6.没打分的要挑战一刀切,困难很大,我也提过这个官司恐怕不仅仅是法律层面的问题,而是与当前的政治经济大环境有关。但是律师对这个问题有充分认识。只要能争取审理,死缠烂打的方法也要用,最终让移民部服了投降了就行了。面子可给移民部。据说03年一刀切那时候就是移民部后来嫌官司棘手不切了。
7.打分的不想告这我理解,我也是这样的情况,但是等啊等,五年过去了,一刀切也宣布了,可是移民部就是不审。按政策他们该审的,为啥不审呢?对方回信说,我们以加拿大利益为至高,优先选择加拿大需要的人才。显然我们虽然没被切,实属对方弃之不顾的。一刀切退费到现在移民部不敢退,是因为我们诉讼人请的律师们据理力争的斗争果实,据说,得等到11月集体诉讼时才定退不退,或者磨蹭两年也退不了,而他们移民部要是切不掉那28万,剩下的一万五打分的也就拖着不办。这是我观察他们行事得出的结论。

mimifo : 2012-10-09#106
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

问一下楼主,我也想参加TIM,如果联系?

今我来思 : 2012-10-09#107
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

问一下楼主,我也想参加TIM,如果联系?
就直接发电子邮件给他就好了。北京进度里有他的邮箱,也可把你的地址发到我QQ邮箱1540957496@qq.com,我把他联系地址转发一下给你。他一般当天就回信的。

mimifo : 2012-10-09#108
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

好的,谢谢

mimifo : 2012-10-09#109
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

发EMAIL给你了

今我来思 : 2012-10-09#110
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

发EMAIL给你了
我已经转给你了。:wdb9:

mlq1998 : 2012-10-10#111
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

你好!我已给您发信了。

今我来思 : 2012-10-10#112
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

你好!我已给您发信了。
我已经发过去了,你检查一下:wdb9:

mlq1998 : 2012-10-10#113
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

我已经发过去了,你检查一下:wdb9:
收到,谢谢您!

依然------ : 2012-10-10#114
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

思,是否问过tim立了案再与cic协商签协议,再撤案?不知tim咋解释?

今我来思 : 2012-10-10#115
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

思,是否问过tim立了案再与cic协商签协议,再撤案?不知tim咋解释?
他昨天这时候正外面活动呢。因为他给我发的短email说,他要回家了。听说王律师是协议后撤案的,我们这边还没协商好。要是协商好了,还得征求我们诉讼人的意见,条件接受不接受等等。

今我来思 : 2012-10-11#116
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

 康尼于今年5月17日在上议院社会事务常设委员会的听证会,答覆上议员卡尔巴赫(Catherine Callbeck),对于“一刀切”是否将影响到2008年3月以后提出的申请时,康尼就回答:“是,我们备用今年稍后推出的新的计分方法,来审理积压的技术移民个案;新的计分方法将更能判断移民申请人是否可以更快融入加国经济。”
  有关答覆并因此引起“一刀切”将扩大的疑云。
  针对“一刀切”可能扩大,康尼昨日作出回应说,之前虽有考虑,但现在已决定不会对新办法实施前的积压个案,引用新的计分办法。
  移民部说,2008年3月至今的积压个案约有两万宗,很多已经完成初审,进入身体检查或保安检查的阶段。(暗含的意思是:完成初审的可不回溯,没完成的没打分的免不了一刀切)

Les Paradis : 2012-10-11#117
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

CIC只承认10月9号之前在法院立案的人,这之后的想得到300天也得不到了。

已经没有机会了。所以你这个标题快改了吧。

当然如果你不怕挨骂,那就随你便。

jn凡凡 : 2012-10-11#118
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

诉讼坚持到底!

今我来思 : 2012-10-11#119
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

以下是加拿大著名华人女议员,加拿大新民主党领袖林顿夫人邹至蕙女士的观点,我非常赞同。当前的一刀切其实就是康尼找抽,张飞他妈---无事生飞(非)!

  邹至蕙:应增加配额 新法案违法 法院将会推翻它 对纳税人的金钱是巨大浪费
  圣三一-士巴丹拿选区议员邹至蕙是《C-38法案》最强烈的反对者之一,并称其是“违法”的。
  她说:“这些潜在的移民把自己的希望和梦想寄托在了这个国家上,而我们正在把(这些希望和梦想)给摧毁掉。我不应该说‘我们’是联邦保守党正在把它们给毁灭掉。这是不公平的。这样做会破坏加拿大在国际上的名誉。
  邹女士认为,申请积压问题可以很容易就得到解决只要提高加拿大接纳的联邦技术移民数量,并雇用额外的员工来审批他们的申请,便能做到这一点。
  今年5月,当记者与CIC官员取得联系时,他们表示,由于移民部的每年的配额限制,申请积压问题是无法仅仅通过雇佣额外的员工就能解决的。
  邹女士说:“这是为什么要对(目标移民人数)进行更改。你无法一年中就接纳所有人,但至少人们知道,过了三年时间,他们就可以来到加拿大了。”
  她说:“这是一个错误的举动,毫无疑问,法院将会推翻(此裁决)。这是对纳税人的钱的巨大浪费。”

今我来思 : 2012-10-12#120
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

经与Tim律师确认,截止日期还没最后敲定。他于10月15日把手上的一批新加入的立案并与其他打分的一起处理,此后就是为打分的所有人斡旋谈判签证完成期限。如果司法部和移民部同意后,与TIM签订了合议执行令,Tim队伍中打分的人的案子就结了。Tim担心,要是结了案,打分的以后再想加入进来,也许会变得不可能。因此,请打分的尚未加入诉讼的91TX们斟酌并在这个周末迅速决断。

Les Paradis : 2012-10-12#121
回复: 再不告就木机会啦

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今我来思 : 2012-10-12#122
回复: 重要提醒:本月15日Tim去立案前打分的仍可加入

Tim来信今日内容如下:
I'm going to be filing them on 15th. Rather than set a deadline, you could just tell them that the next filing date is the 15th.


When DoJ responds to the counter-offer I made yesterday, the group will likely close. I would expect the response to be next Wednesday or Thursday. At that point, they will either accept my terms, restate their or modify their terms. Only one of our litigants has agreed to accept their terms. Everyone else who responded adopted mine. So, unless CIC agrees to (a) a consent order and (b) inclusion of everyone, I will turn down the counter and litigate. The 300 days really doesn't bother me much because it's the outer limit. If they agree to process quickly, whether its 220 or 300 does not matter.


So, the bottom line is:
1. no guarantee that we will settle,
2. settlement will include all who have signed on by then (to a maximum of 60) and
3. it will be a consent order.

Les Paradis : 2012-10-12#123
回复: 重要提醒:本月15日Tim去立案前打分的仍可加入

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今我来思 : 2012-10-13#124
回复: 重要提醒:10月15日Tim 将加进一批打分的

Tim律师有通盘考虑,不会因为先处理已经打分的人的案子,就把未打分的搁置不管了。事情要一样一样办。

monk620 : 2012-10-13#125
回复: 重要提醒:10月15日Tim 将加进一批打分的

Tim律师有通盘考虑,不会因为先处理已经打分的人的案子,就把未打分的搁置不管了。事情要一样一样办。

楼主,给你发了邮件。谢了

今我来思 : 2012-10-13#126
回复: 重要提醒:10月15日Tim 将加进一批打分的

活在幻想中,不如活在冷酷的现实中。参加诉讼的打分的TX们,才几十个人,等待了很久,CIC才允许300天结案。不参加诉讼的,恐怕要后面慢慢排着去。

今我来思 : 2012-10-14#127
回复: 移民部出尔反尔成习惯 91打分的要坚持诉求不让步

移民部什么时候体恤过我们等待多年的心酸?等来的是一刀切的刀光剑影。扯一句题外话,日本人从心里承认咱们是“二战”战胜国吗?当年美国人打到日本本土,日本人跪地求饶,现在日本人对美国人服服帖帖的。美国人托管冲绳的时候,还邀请蒋介石一起托管,三番五次,蒋介石始终不吐口,心里盘算的是不能得罪日本人,怕日本人卷土重来。结果两重天,大家看到了。

今我来思 : 2012-10-17#128
回复: 司法部同意给TIM组打分的CONSENT ORDER , 最终敲定前仍可加入

Tim给大家带来了好消息:
打分的可望很快得到以下几点
Mostly good news from DoJ a short while ago. The bad new is that they will not settle the three MI 1 cases. I have attached the revised terms:


1. we will have a consent order,
2. those signed on as of yesterday are included,
3. 300 days to process
4. visas issued once visa-ready.

godream : 2012-10-17#129
回复: 司法部同意给TIM组打分的CONSENT ORDER , 最终敲定前仍可加入

Tim给大家带来了好消息:
打分的渴望很快得到以下几点
Mostly good news from DoJ a short while ago. The bad new is that they will not settle the three MI 1 cases. I have attached the revised terms:


1. we will have a consent order,
2. those signed on as of yesterday are included,
3. 300 days to process
4. visas issued once visa-ready.

好消息啊!

jaredwang : 2012-10-17#130
回复: 司法部同意给TIM组打分的CONSENT ORDER , 最终敲定前仍可加入

F**KU,老子不告CIC,CIC应该知耻而后勇。出钱告它它给往前排,加式排队和中式过马路一样操蛋。

mt1941 : 2012-10-18#131
回复: 重要提醒:本月15日Tim去立案前打分的仍可加入

天堂大侠这个点点点弄得我好没底啊.我是15号交的钱,16号给了我court file number,那今天17号,法院就给了一封CIC承诺300天的信.本来觉得这么快这么巧合会不会有什么不妥.进来看才发现了这个帖子.刚刚有点放心了,法院的正式文件应该没有什么问题吧? 天堂大神一向分析的很透彻很独到我也很信.但这个省略号把我造懵了,应该没什么风险吧?怕怕

Les Paradis : 2012-10-18#132
回复: 重要提醒:本月15日Tim去立案前打分的仍可加入

天堂大侠这个点点点弄得我好没底啊.我是15号交的钱,16号给了我court file number,那今天17号,法院就给了一封CIC承诺300天的信.本来觉得这么快这么巧合会不会有什么不妥.进来看才发现了这个帖子.刚刚有点放心了,法院的正式文件应该没有什么问题吧? 天堂大神一向分析的很透彻很独到我也很信.但这个省略号把我造懵了,应该没什么风险吧?怕怕


我的点点对你的进展没有任何负面的评价。至少从最新的消息来看,91已打分的参加这批起诉的都快谈判成功了。

mt1941 : 2012-10-18#133
回复: 重要提醒:本月15日Tim去立案前打分的仍可加入

我的点点对你的进展没有任何负面的评价。至少从最新的消息来看,91已打分的参加这批起诉的都快谈判成功了。
啊哈哈,多谢天堂大神开光. 我可真是走了狗屎运. 总是稀里糊涂的.

今我来思 : 2012-10-18#134
回复: 司法部10月17日同意给CONSENT ORDER , 最终敲定前仍可加入

Tim第一组打分的已经拿到签证了,这厢第二组300天等待还没倒计时。真是赶早不赶晚,什么都要抢先才是王道。

今我来思 : 2012-10-20#135
回复: 通知:91已经打分且立案没收到Tim信的 请尽快跟他联系

Tim组91的已经立案并且打了分的,如果没有收到Tim最近的“mostly good news" 和“very very limited settlement"两封信的,应尽快跟TIM 联系告知详情。

tigerlilyxh : 2012-10-20#136
回复: 通知:91已经打分且立案没收到Tim信的 请尽快跟他联系

Tim组91的已经立案并且打了分的,如果没有收到Tim最近的“mostly good news" 和“very very limited settlement"两封信的,应尽快跟TIM 联系告知详情。

mostly good news 的邮件日期是10月18日的,我收到了。very limited settlement的邮件是哪天发的,我没有收的。麻烦告诉一下邮件日期可以吗?

非常感谢天堂和今我来思等,随时给大家提供信息。

今我来思 : 2012-10-20#137
回复: 通知:91已经打分且立案没收到Tim信的 请尽快跟他联系

mostly good news 的邮件日期是10月18日的,我收到了。very limited settlement的邮件是哪天发的,我没有收的。麻烦告诉一下邮件日期可以吗?

非常感谢天堂和今我来思等,随时给大家提供信息。
请查看Tim最新来信,这次的SETTLEMENT 的人员名单已经列出,要是不在里面,请跟律师联系并说明情况。
虽然没查过CAIPS 而不确知自己打分没有的,按照一般进度可推算出自己打分的, 现在已经加入了Tim诉讼的91TX,这次的解决案中也包含在内。如不在Tim给出的名单中,可向其说明。

Les Paradis : 2012-10-21#138
回复: 10月21日通知:查看最新Tim所列名单 符合而漏掉的请尽快说明情况

楼主的ME就快到手了,记得到时候单独发帖报喜!乖!

xiake712 : 2012-10-21#139
回复: 10月21日通知:查看最新Tim所列名单 符合而漏掉的请尽快说明情况

感谢某位大妈当初拒绝我入LW诉讼群,选择了TIM看来是明智的。我得意的笑,看。。。

今我来思 : 2012-10-21#140
回复: 10月21日通知:查看最新Tim所列名单 符合而漏掉的请尽快说明情况

91的加入Tim的,若还没查CAIPS ,但是推测自己通过了初审已经打分,也要联系律师说明。因为解决方案的协议中也包含了这样的情况。

osmanthus : 2012-10-22#141
回复: 10月21日通知:查看最新Tim所列名单 符合而漏掉的请尽快说明情况

感谢某位大妈当初拒绝我入LW诉讼群,选择了TIM看来是明智的。我得意的笑,看。。。
哦,应该说是个有魅力的大姐吧,哈!

今我来思 : 2012-10-30#142
回复: 紧急通知:没查CAIPS 但有可能打分了的Tim组人 火速联系Tim

有的同学可能还没来得及查自己的CAIPS, 无法确切知道自己是否通过初审,这样的已经加入Tim诉讼的人,一定要尽快说明情况,把主申请人的姓名、生日、使馆档案号等信息尽快告知TIM,以便他寻求解决办法,争取加入已经得到协议和CONSENT ORDER 的同学队伍中去。火急!!

voiletflower : 2012-10-31#143
回复: 10月21日通知:查看最新Tim所列名单 符合而漏掉的请尽快说明情况

感谢某位大妈当初拒绝我入LW诉讼群,选择了TIM看来是明智的。我得意的笑,看。。。

我这个大妈对你多好,助你早日解脱。你应该感谢我啊!

xiake712 : 2012-10-31#144
回复: 10月21日通知:查看最新Tim所列名单 符合而漏掉的请尽快说明情况

我这个大妈对你多好,助你早日解脱。你应该感谢我啊!



的确应该谢谢你,不然我也不会带上一群人去TIM组,现在我们的成功壁厚也有你们的支持,也祝福你们早点结案。

转基因和尚 : 2012-10-31#145
回复: 紧急通知:没查CAIPS 但有可能打分了的Tim组人 火速联系Tim

不是说TIM没收到多少中国人吗?你带的“一群人”以印巴人为主?还是TIM组的中国人都是你带去的?面子够大的哈!“我们的成功”这个说法确实够“壁厚”的,什么成功了?还不是被多骗走一笔小钱以后继续被“咔切嚓”?

scarlett6 : 2012-10-31#146
回复: 紧急通知:没查CAIPS 但有可能打分了的Tim组人 火速联系Tim

目前看来Tim和王律师对91打分的争取到的结果是一样。LW如果协商结果也会相同,没打分的还是没有进展,现在谈成功正是"不敢正视严酷的现实"
对了,Tim为何比其他两个律师收的贵?付论坛灌水费?

voiletflower : 2012-10-31#147
回复: 紧急通知:没查CAIPS 但有可能打分了的Tim组人 火速联系Tim

不是说TIM没收到多少中国人吗?你带的“一群人”以印巴人为主?还是TIM组的中国人都是你带去的?面子够大的哈!“我们的成功”这个说法确实够“壁厚”的,什么成功了?还不是被多骗走一笔小钱以后继续被“咔切嚓”?

目前看来Tim和王律师对91打分的争取到的结果是一样。LW如果协商结果也会相同,没打分的还是没有进展,现在谈成功正是"不敢正视严酷的现实"
对了,Tim为何比其他两个律师收的贵?付论坛灌水费?

不是北京已打分的同学,就不要再这里搅和啦。成功与否、收费多少与你有何关系?要不就是吃饱了撑的、要不就是没事干闲的。:wdb22:

jaredwang : 2012-10-31#148
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

相互祝福是挺不错的,相互攻击就没太多必要。论坛里同时也应该容得下不同的声音。

从我个人观点来看,成功是说的早了一点,不过俺也祝福你们或我们都成功。从另一个方面,确实记得Tim里中国人不多,一群人不知道是多少。我估计这里一群代表三个或三个以上吧,不过我怀疑此君有没有这么大的影响力,一个有可能,两个悬。纯属个人观点。

攻击别人是不对的。有些时候俺也烦躁借酒消愁,网上不积德,但那并不是真正的我。别人说啥,是不是Gay,其实和自己本来也没太多关系,但如果彼时触动某根神经,他Dirty你也跟着Dirty就不好了。

得,总之,大家都是凡人,少些攻击,多些谅解。敬请期待吧。

ymxzrl : 2012-11-01#149
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

相互祝福是挺不错的,相互攻击就没太多必要。论坛里同时也应该容得下不同的声音。

从我个人观点来看,成功是说的早了一点,不过俺也祝福你们或我们都成功。从另一个方面,确实记得Tim里中国人不多,一群人不知道是多少。我估计这里一群代表三个或三个以上吧,不过我怀疑此君有没有这么大的影响力,一个有可能,两个悬。纯属个人观点。

攻击别人是不对的。有些时候俺也烦躁借酒消愁,网上不积德,但那并不是真正的我。别人说啥,是不是Gay,其实和自己本来也没太多关系,但如果彼时触动某根神经,他Dirty你也跟着Dirty就不好了。

得,总之,大家都是凡人,少些攻击,多些谅解。敬请期待吧。
哈哈,你还真是下血本敲字.
:wdb23:

xiake712 : 2012-11-01#150
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

那些喜欢多管闲事的,咱其起诉的与你们不参加的好像没什么关联吧,一群人多少个,是什么人种也不用你们担心和来这里吐槽。参加的同学都清楚,没必要向你们汇报吧,真把自己当颗葱了哇。

xiake712 : 2012-11-01#151
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

相互祝福是挺不错的,相互攻击就没太多必要。论坛里同时也应该容得下不同的声音。

从我个人观点来看,成功是说的早了一点,不过俺也祝福你们或我们都成功。从另一个方面,确实记得Tim里中国人不多,一群人不知道是多少。我估计这里一群代表三个或三个以上吧,不过我怀疑此君 有没有这么大的影响力,一个有可能,两个悬。纯属个人观点。

攻击别人是不对的。有些时候俺也烦躁借酒消愁,网上不积德,但那并不是真正的我。别人说啥,是不是Gay,其实和自己本来也没太多关系,但如果彼时触动某根神经,他Dirty你也跟着Dirty就不好了。

得,总之,大家都是凡人,少些攻击,多些谅解。敬请期待吧。
哎哟,又想来喷了是吧,不得虚你,俺可不是吓大。有那闲功夫三八,不如回家带你儿去。

xiake712 : 2012-11-01#152
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

顶。

jaredwang : 2012-11-01#153
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

哈哈,你还真是下血本敲字.
:wdb23:

俺只是有感而发,也没啥血本可言。不知道你啥意思,虽然你之前的回言有带些讥讽,不过俺不介意。

如某人骂我,俺也一笑了之,回他怕脏了我的口。

如某人说话动听,其人必是好人,如果是美女,那就更难得。如某人说话很脏,其人必猥琐,这种人就不必去理会它了。

今我来思 : 2012-11-01#154
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

我的一偏之见:
(1)91的,无论是打分的,还是未打分的,2013年都还是“?”,康尼对媒体说解决积案,指的是227,就是说,解决积案也不是按照先来后到的时间顺序,而是按照职业优先和加拿大需求顺序。
(2)我们最熟悉的三位律师,都是很有信誉有知名度的,不是骗钱的。如果说他们之间有竞争,那也是他们比着为91同学们效劳。他们在法庭代表着我们诉讼人,我们还是不要把他们当出气筒。
(3)打分的可以速战速决,而未打分的,因为官司难度大,可能是持久战,不是律师故意拖着,或者忙活别的事耽搁。持久战贵在坚持不懈,不气馁。好多官司都很扯皮,好几年打不下来的都有。打分而未诉讼的,明年会不会自然拿到签证或是仓储着没人理都很难说呢。

ymxzrl : 2012-11-01#155
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

俺只是有感而发,也没啥血本可言。不知道你啥意思,虽然你之前的回言有带些讥讽,不过俺不介意。

如某人骂我,俺也一笑了之,回他怕脏了我的口。

如某人说话动听,其人必是好人,如果是美女,那就更难得。如某人说话很脏,其人必猥琐,这种人就不必去理会它了。
你想多了,没别的意思.
主要是看你敲那么多字,蛮辛苦的,顺便支持一下.:wdb23:

今我来思 : 2012-11-02#156
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

http://www.iask.ca/news/canada/immigration/2012/1101/164341.html移民部昨日公布的2013年移民目标,只简单区分联邦及魁省两大类的移民吸纳人数,而并非如以往移民部的传统,在公布年度报告时,详细列出翌年各类移民的吸纳目标。对此,移民部发言人帕夫利奇(Alexis Pavlich)说,各个类别的细节数字,会在稍後公布,而对为何「打破传统」,她则没有回应。 而移民律师李克伦(Richard Kurland)指出,在总吸纳人数未超过前一年的情况下,移民部很可能是减了联邦技术移民的名额,才能增加CEC名额。他预计明年联邦技术移民的名额应只有一万人。

今我来思 : 2012-11-07#157
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

Tim律师在6月14日梁栋案胜诉后,坦白过以下的观点和分析:
“他(Tim)乐观的表示,法官在判决书内已清楚指出,法庭有权将裁决的「生效日回溯」(nunc pro tunc),由於他们的诉讼案早在去年10月28日就提出,当时撤销积案的立法尚未提出,因此要求将「生效日回溯」於法有据;就算到时候移民部将积案作废,他们的申请案仍会复活,移民部有责任继续审理。

他强调,众所皆知技术移民审理延宕是移民部的错,与申请人无关,若移民部要逐一辩论,他乐意奉陪,只是移民部将冒著支付大笔诉讼费的风险,且一旦败诉,就要比照梁东的案例,在 120天将案件审理完毕,否则即是藐视法庭。

李希说,这项裁决无疑是对康尼的羞辱,证明他不能为所欲为。他说,康尼一再重申移民部的做法禁得起任何法律挑战,但法官的判决清楚显示,移民部长有权透过「部长指示」设定审理的优先次序,但无权将案件作废或不审理。
当被问到此裁决对其他未加入诉讼的积案申请人有何影响时,李希(tim)表示,法官对此案的有利裁决势必被将来进行的集体诉讼引为判例,对申请人有利,但因这些诉讼都是在撤销积案的立法宣布後才提出,不符「生效日回溯」原则,届时能否复活仍有争议。”

zunhuhu : 2012-11-07#158
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

我的一偏之见:
(1)91的,无论是打分的,还是未打分的,2013年都还是“?”,康尼对媒体说解决积案,指的是227,就是说,解决积案也不是按照先来后到的时间顺序,而是按照职业优先和加拿大需求顺序。
(2)我们最熟悉的三位律师,都是很有信誉有知名度的,不是骗钱的。如果说他们之间有竞争,那也是他们比着为91同学们效劳。他们在法庭代表着我们诉讼人,我们还是不要把他们当出气筒。
(3)打分的可以速战速决,而未打分的,因为官司难度大,可能是持久战,不是律师故意拖着,或者忙活别的事耽搁。持久战贵在坚持不懈,不气馁。好多官司都很扯皮,好几年打不下来的都有。打分而未诉讼的,明年会不会自然拿到签证或是仓储着没人理都很难说呢。
关于第1)条我的赶脚是北京91的确实要ME了,不是空穴来风。我也加入了TIM,但貌似是否加入已经差别不大了。

今我来思 : 2012-11-07#159
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

关于第1)条我的赶脚是北京91的确实要ME了,不是空穴来风。我也加入了TIM,但貌似是否加入已经差别不大了。
我看到的信息只有媒体发布的CIC许诺说2014年底处理完未作废的技术移民积案。这是针对全世界各个使馆的,不单指北京使馆。至于具体到北京使馆是否在2013年底处理完91技术移民积案,只有看各人感觉了。需要北京使馆出面保证一下。

北京使馆最近回复一个积案人说“SHORTLY”,也许针对技术移民,也许针对所有积案,也许只是安抚民心----未作废的打分的技术移民9月和10月间大概总数有一百来人(TIM组四十来个)起诉后,三方和谈得到300天内解决,这些人都是北京使馆的积案,CIC不会不注意到这一点。还有,“SHORTLY”具体多长时间,是半年、一年、两年都不清楚。
全世界起诉的总人数,Tim说614后增加了4000人,那么加上原有的一千多人,就是全世界共有五千多主申请人已经起诉了 ,要在法庭论个是非曲直。

zunhuhu : 2012-11-07#160
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

我看到的信息只有媒体发布的CIC许诺说2014年底处理完未作废的技术移民积案。这是针对全世界各个使馆的,不单指北京使馆。至于具体到北京使馆是否在2013年底处理完91技术移民积案,只有看各人感觉了。需要北京使馆出面保证一下。

北京使馆最近回复一个积案人说“SHORTLY”,也许针对技术移民,也许针对所有积案,也许只是安抚民心----未作废的打分的技术移民9月和10月间大概总数有一百来人(TIM组四十来个)起诉后,三方和谈得到300天内解决,这些人都是北京使馆的积案,CIC不会不注意到这一点。还有,“SHORTLY”具体多长时间,是半年、一年、两年都不清楚。
全世界起诉的总人数,Tim说614后增加了4000人,那么加上原有的一千多人,就是全世界共有五千多主申请人已经起诉了 ,要在法庭论个是非曲直。
我前几天发邮件向使馆求证去年更新的地址是否成功,使馆的回复里头很明确的说我已经在发request letter的queue里头了。
赶脚如果是因为TIM的诉讼,使馆动作不会这么快,应该是大部队动起来了。

cyfMayflower : 2012-11-07#161
回复: 口水战没用,律师们正从不同切入点攻坚

我前几天发邮件向使馆求证去年更新的地址是否成功,使馆的回复里头很明确的说我已经在发request letter的queue里头了。
赶脚如果是因为TIM的诉讼,使馆动作不会这么快,应该是大部队动起来了。

已经 have being queued 几年啦

jiayimama : 2012-11-09#162
回复: 紧急通知:没查CAIPS 但有可能打分了的Tim组人 火速联系Tim

有的同学可能还没来得及查自己的CAIPS, 无法确切知道自己是否通过初审,这样的已经加入Tim诉讼的人,一定要尽快说明情况,把主申请人的姓名、生日、使馆档案号等信息尽快告知TIM,以便他寻求解决办法,争取加入已经得到协议和CONSENT ORDER 的同学队伍中去。火急!!
我参加报名,2010年12月递交补料。上周北京使馆明确回复我的申请今年3月29日前没有做出选择决定,等待退费。为逝去的五年光阴,为曾经的期待盼望,为过往的所有付出,我愿意成为你们中的一员。

今我来思 : 2012-12-03#163
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

老僧我征得Tim律师同意,贴出他的最近情况分析,供大家见仁见智:
Dear litigant,


Time for some up-dates. After working overnight on Thursday, I completed the last two written submissions for the January 14th-16th hearings and served and filed them on Friday. The four groups are:
诉讼人已经分成四组
1. files lodged before 27 February 2008 which
a. have never been assessed,
b. were assessed before 29 March 2012 (and joined after June 14th) and
c. were assessed after March 29th and underwent medicals; and
2. files lodged between 27 February 2008 and 25 June 2010.


DoJ has objected to inclusion of the MI 1 litigants -- all four of them -- having their case heard on January 14th-16th and sent a letter to that effect to the Court after working hours on Thursday. When I filed my last two written arguments -- for 1b and 1c -- I enclosed a letter, identifying the four lead cases and explaining why I am proceeding in the manner; i.e., our group initially included two classes (pre-Bill C-50 and MI 1) but on March 29th the Minister divided former into assessed and not-assessed and on June 29th created a fourth class (post-March-29th-assesssed); and, thus, I have not added a new group; I am only dealing with the sub-groups CIC has created.


I really do not know why Marin Anderson, DoJ counsel, did not object to 1b, too. Maybe he just didn't read the letter which had accompanied that filing, where I alerted counsel that I would be filing three more lead cases. However, if he should decide to do so now, I will advise the Court that (a) he is not counsel involved in your litigation -- and he is not; he is lead counsel in the Toronto-based 87.4 batch -- and (b) he lost his chance to complain when he did not raise that issue when he objected to the MI 1. But, in any event, I doubt that Justice Barnes will allow Martin Anderson to decide whom I may represent and whose cases I may pursue.

来年一月开庭的法官还是伦尼

The judge who has been selected to preside at the hearing is Mr. Justice Rennie, who issued the June 14th decision in our favour. I am pleased that it is he because he had said: "the Protocol (Agreement) governs", but CIC has refused to honour it. He should be sympathetic for the pre-June 14th litigants and those in 1b and 2 because they fall squarely under his June 14th ruling. His real challenges will be: (a) applying the same ruling for the post-June 14th 1a litigants and (b) ruling on s. 87.4 itself. (He can uphold s. 87.4 but still enforce the Agreement. So, we're better positioned than the other counsels' litigants who can only win if s. 87.4 is struck down.)

巴恩斯法官(保守党)为移民部保驾护航不遗余力

Justice Barnes has proven himself adept at working for the Minister every step of the way. His setting the hearing for January 14th-16th not only gives him a way out of deciding our motion but it also forced applicants' counsel to withdraw their motion for class-certification, which had told us twice he opposes, because, although the decision could be appealed to the Federal Court of Appeal (FCA), the FCA could not hear it before January 14th, after which the issue would be moot. Moreover, if he had certified a group, and DoJ had not appealed, the class-action could not be properly organized in time for a January 14th hearing. More perniciously, however, is the early date prevents us from obtaining support from outside parties on my constitutional issue. They simply would not have time to obtain permission to file amicus briefs, let alone to write one. So, he will have cleared the decks for the Minister before the next Budget Bill, where I expect the Minister to insert a provision abolishing all economic-class applications not assessed before July 1st, when he will introduce new selection criteria for skilled workers and new investor and entrepreneur programs. The Minister coudn't've found a more amenable judge unless he could appoint his mother to the Bench.


Tim为1月开庭做足功课
The next step from my end -- besides beating back Martin Anderson's interference -- is to prepare questions for their witness, who is to file his/her affidavit by December 14th. I have not had time to think about what to ask beyond what I asked previously. If any of you have some suggestions, please read what I asked before -- no need to ask me what I have already asked -- and let me know your ideas. I asked more than I am technically allowed to ask, and DoJ refused to answer many of them, as you can see from the attachment. So, there is no guarantee that, even if asked, an answer will be forthcoming. Yes, I can file a motion, asking the Court to order the witness to answer. However, Justice Barnes has made certain that the hearing will take place before the time for doing so will have come.


Regards,


Tim

今我来思 : 2012-12-03#164
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

Good Day,
巴恩斯法官为阻挠集体诉讼成立机关算尽

On November 14th after close of business, Justice Barnes set January 14th-16th for the hearing date for those challenging the Minister's treatment of skilled worker applicants. This shorten time-line has forced applicants' counsel to revise how they had intended to proceed.


First, Justice Barnes' manoeuvre obliged the lawyers, who were seeking a class-action, which if granted would have governed all the applicants whose file s s. 87.4 closed, to abort that effort. The motion was to have been heard on November 23rd and 30th. However, twice Justice Barnes, who was to decide the case, stated that he did not want to certify a class. If he ruled that way, an appeal to the Federal Court of Appeal could not be heard before January 14th. Moreover, if he had certified a class, there would not be enough time to organize it effectively before January 14th.

集体诉讼流产 28万人砍定 只剩个案还有戏
Therefore, there will be no class-action lawsuit but only managed litigation governing those who retained a lawyer to represent them.


自此不参加诉讼就只有乖乖被切
The result is that a decision on these proceedings will only directly affect those who have signed on with one of the groups. Therefore, one needs to decide whether to participate in the litigation.


Second, by setting the hearing date for January 14th, Justice Barnes has given himself the out he needed to justify his refusal to rule on the motion I had filed on June 29th, asking the Court to enforce the February 3rd Agreement. We will now have to wait for the January 14th-16th hearing.


If the Court declares s. 87.4 (the provision closing the files) to be unlawful, all the closed files will, of course, be resurrected. However, because the litigation seeks an order requiring litigants' files to be processed within a specified time-frame, the litigants' cases -- if successful -- will move to the head of the queue. Whichever way the Court rules, the decision is expected to be appealed. So, the matter to be finally settled when that decision is made following the January hearing.

614前加入和614后加入Tim组有无区别1月开庭法官说了算

The unfairCIC.com litigation, however, is different because we are also seeking enforcement of the Agreement DoJ and I signed and filed with the Court on February 3rd. If the Court, agrees that the Agreement is enforceable, s. 87.4 will not have to be declared unlawful for the unfairCIC.com litigants to have their files processed. If he does rule in our favour, the judge will also have to decide whether the Agreement covers only those who applied before the June 14th decision was issued or whether it applies to all the litigants in the unfairCIC.com group, as Justice Barnes directed on June 26th.

伦尼法官曾在614判决中主审梁栋案

The judge appointed to preside on January 14th-16th is Mr. Justice Rennie, the same judge who ruled in the unfairCIC.com litigants' favour on June 14th, at which time he stated that the Agreement was to govern disposition of the other litigants' files. However, CIC has refused to do so, using the excuse that, because the Minister closed the files, it would be unlawful to honour the Agreement.

天助我也 移民部露出破绽

But, on November 29th, the Minister confirmed what I have been saying -- and CIC has been denying -- since June 29th; namely that the statute gives the Minister the authority to override s. 87.4. On November 29th, the Minister issued Operational Bulletin 479-B, wherein he ordered visa posts "for reasons of public policy" to re-issue visas to applicants who had been assessed after March 29th and who had been issued visas unlawfully after June 29th, when 87.4 closed their files.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob479B.asp


The Minister's doing so confirmed the position which I have been arguing. It should not, therefore, be difficult for Justice Rennie to see his way clear to order CIC to use this same provision in order to honour the Agreement we signed on February 3rd and he held on June 14th meant that the other litigants' files were to be finalized in a manner similar to his order which required CIC to finalize the lead litigant's file within 120 days. (They did so within sixty day.) Assuming he rule in a manner consistent with his June 14th ruling, he will have to decide whether the Agreement applies to all the unfairCIC.com litigants or only to those who applied before June 14th. If he limits his ruling to those who had joined before June 14th, the others' fate will turn on the ruling on s. 87.4.


1月8日前加入诉讼的人都可赶上伦尼法官判决

When Justice Barnes set the hearing date, he said that any counsel who had filed written submissions by November 30th would be able to argue the case on January 14th-16th. Therefore, I served and filed four lead cases for the four unfairCIC.com groups: viz., FSW applications (1) lodged before 27 February 2008 and (a) never assessed, (b) assessed before March 29th or (c) assessed after March 29th and (2) lodged between 27 February 2008 and 25 June 2010. Thus, anyone in each of these four categories who joins the unfairCIC.com group before January 8th will benefit directly from Justice Rennie's ruling.


Sincerely,


Tim Leahy

shsghzx : 2012-12-03#165
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

TIM 组是最失败的组!

今我来思 : 2012-12-03#166
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

TIM 组是最失败的组!
蚍蜉撼大树,可笑不自量。

Les Paradis : 2012-12-04#167
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

TIM 组是最失败的组!


TIM的第一组北京的大部分都VISA了

没有TIM在2011年开始发起第一组,其他的什么组根本不可能存在

这样的“失败”还是很不错的

Les Paradis : 2012-12-04#168
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

Good Day,
巴恩斯法官为阻挠集体诉讼成立机关算尽

On November 14th after close of business, Justice Barnes set January 14th-16th for the hearing date for those challenging the Minister's treatment of skilled worker applicants. This shorten time-line has forced applicants' counsel to revise how they had intended to proceed.


First, Justice Barnes' manoeuvre obliged the lawyers, who were seeking a class-action, which if granted would have governed all the applicants whose file s s. 87.4 closed, to abort that effort. The motion was to have been heard on November 23rd and 30th. However, twice Justice Barnes, who was to decide the case, stated that he did not want to certify a class. If he ruled that way, an appeal to the Federal Court of Appeal could not be heard before January 14th. Moreover, if he had certified a class, there would not be enough time to organize it effectively before January 14th.

集体诉讼流产 28万人砍定 只剩个案还有戏
Therefore, there will be no class-action lawsuit but only managed litigation governing those who retained a lawyer to represent them.


自此不参加诉讼就只有乖乖被切
The result is that a decision on these proceedings will only directly affect those who have signed on with one of the groups. Therefore, one needs to decide whether to participate in the litigation.


Second, by setting the hearing date for January 14th, Justice Barnes has given himself the out he needed to justify his refusal to rule on the motion I had filed on June 29th, asking the Court to enforce the February 3rd Agreement. We will now have to wait for the January 14th-16th hearing.


If the Court declares s. 87.4 (the provision closing the files) to be unlawful, all the closed files will, of course, be resurrected. However, because the litigation seeks an order requiring litigants' files to be processed within a specified time-frame, the litigants' cases -- if successful -- will move to the head of the queue. Whichever way the Court rules, the decision is expected to be appealed. So, the matter to be finally settled when that decision is made following the January hearing.

614前加入和614后加入Tim组有无区别1月开庭法官说了算

The unfairCIC.com litigation, however, is different because we are also seeking enforcement of the Agreement DoJ and I signed and filed with the Court on February 3rd. If the Court, agrees that the Agreement is enforceable, s. 87.4 will not have to be declared unlawful for the unfairCIC.com litigants to have their files processed. If he does rule in our favour, the judge will also have to decide whether the Agreement covers only those who applied before the June 14th decision was issued or whether it applies to all the litigants in the unfairCIC.com group, as Justice Barnes directed on June 26th.

伦尼法官曾在614判决中主审梁栋案

The judge appointed to preside on January 14th-16th is Mr. Justice Rennie, the same judge who ruled in the unfairCIC.com litigants' favour on June 14th, at which time he stated that the Agreement was to govern disposition of the other litigants' files. However, CIC has refused to do so, using the excuse that, because the Minister closed the files, it would be unlawful to honour the Agreement.

天助我也 移民部露出破绽

But, on November 29th, the Minister confirmed what I have been saying -- and CIC has been denying -- since June 29th; namely that the statute gives the Minister the authority to override s. 87.4. On November 29th, the Minister issued Operational Bulletin 479-B, wherein he ordered visa posts "for reasons of public policy" to re-issue visas to applicants who had been assessed after March 29th and who had been issued visas unlawfully after June 29th, when 87.4 closed their files.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob479B.asp


The Minister's doing so confirmed the position which I have been arguing. It should not, therefore, be difficult for Justice Rennie to see his way clear to order CIC to use this same provision in order to honour the Agreement we signed on February 3rd and he held on June 14th meant that the other litigants' files were to be finalized in a manner similar to his order which required CIC to finalize the lead litigant's file within 120 days. (They did so within sixty day.) Assuming he rule in a manner consistent with his June 14th ruling, he will have to decide whether the Agreement applies to all the unfairCIC.com litigants or only to those who applied before June 14th. If he limits his ruling to those who had joined before June 14th, the others' fate will turn on the ruling on s. 87.4.


1月8日前加入诉讼的人都可赶上伦尼法官判决

When Justice Barnes set the hearing date, he said that any counsel who had filed written submissions by November 30th would be able to argue the case on January 14th-16th. Therefore, I served and filed four lead cases for the four unfairCIC.com groups: viz., FSW applications (1) lodged before 27 February 2008 and (a) never assessed, (b) assessed before March 29th or (c) assessed after March 29th and (2) lodged between 27 February 2008 and 25 June 2010. Thus, anyone in each of these four categories who joins the unfairCIC.com group before January 8th will benefit directly from Justice Rennie's ruling.


Sincerely,


Tim Leahy


集体诉讼还真的不存在了:wdb6:

顶顶:wdb6:

雾霾和计划生育都害人 : 2012-12-04#169
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

不要梦想坑你会心软,求情是自取其辱!按法律判吧,如果加拿大法制就这样可以耍赖,那这国家就不值得去!

Les Paradis : 2012-12-04#170
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

不明白既然集体诉讼这么难成案,为什么某人在5月份就招人参加集体诉讼???

如果不是这个集体诉讼,很多后来参与进来的律师就在11月开庭了。

拖延一个月对参加的人都是很不公平的。

Les Paradis : 2012-12-04#171
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

想要给CIC和保守党打击,集体诉讼不是唯一的路。

只要能判87.4违宪,大家的目的还是达到了,无论何种形式的诉讼。

今我来思 : 2012-12-04#172
回复: 有容乃大 望康尼部长顾国家体面法外施恩

转载香港进度Peter007帖子:
移民一刀切案有机会胜诉 集体诉讼驳回

加拿大家园 iask.ca 2012-12-04 06:26 来源: 世界日报 作者:

移民部藉由C-38法案将28万名联邦技术移民积案作废,申请人委托律师提起集体诉讼(Class action),但法官以相关诉讼1月14日即将展开,时间紧迫为由,不愿核准集体诉讼。即裁决效力仅止于参与诉讼者。

联邦移民部透过C-38法案的第87条4款(s.87.4)将28万名技术移民积案申请人的案件作废,数以千计的申请人分别委托数名律师提告,其中有律师向法庭提出「动议」(motion),要求以「集体诉讼」名义进行,让将来裁决效力及於所有遭作废的申请人。

主审法官巴恩斯(Justice Barnes)原本应在上月23日及30日的聆讯中决定是否核准集体诉讼,但他认为,挑战s.87.4违法的所有诉讼已排订明年1月14日到16日审理,若在此时就是否核准「集体诉讼」做出裁定,不服的一方若上诉,联邦上诉庭根本无法在1月14日前做出裁决。

更重要的,就算「集体诉讼」获准,控方律师也没有足够时间在1月14日将一切准备就绪,因此他拒绝就「集体诉讼」动议做出裁决。亦即1月14日的审讯,其效力仅止於参与诉讼的申请人。

代表1000多名技术移民积案申请人状告移民部并获胜诉的多伦多律师李希(Tim Leahy)表示,遭C-38法案作废的申请人,近期最好决定是否加入诉讼。因为法庭若裁定s.87.4违法,虽然所有被作废的积案均可复活,但因诉讼案要求移民部在一定时间内将原告的案件审理完成,因此参与诉讼者可获优先审理。 家园新闻,news.iask.ca

关于他所提动议,要求移民部遵守今年2月双方所达成协议,让所有参与诉讼者「适用」(guided by)6月14日法庭的有利裁决,巴恩斯法官也未置可否,将一并留待1月14日由承审法官任尼(Justice Rennie)审理。王仁铎律师也表示,任尼法官对案件有较深入了解,加上C-38立法对积案申请人确实相当不公平,他认为有机会胜诉。不过他强调申请人现在想加入已经太晚,法庭不会再接受,唯一补救方式是发起另一轮集体诉讼官司。

今我来思 : 2012-12-04#173
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TIM的第一组北京的大部分都VISA了

没有TIM在2011年开始发起第一组,其他的什么组根本不可能存在

这样的“失败”还是很不错的

现在的ME雨,所有参加诉讼的人,所有律师的诉讼,打分的和没打分的诉讼人,功不可没。因为移民部是在压力之下开始了积极的工作。正如Tim这样评论最近的ME雨:
I received an email today complaining that all those who joined the other groups got their ME but not our group. However, I also received two emails confirming that the ME was received, and I have been getting such notification almost daily. And, today, one of the original group confirmed that he had received his immigrant visa(614组又有一人得签证). So, matters are moving forward for our group, too. What I do not know is the reason. I can think of three reasons: their number just came up (not relation to the litigation); the Embassy received the list of assessed files and is proceeding with them under the belief that the agreement was finalized; or they want to cut off the litigation of these cases by being able to say to the Court: "There is no point in having a hearing because we are already processing the files". I really do not know which is the reason. I am, however, that, had I not initiated the litigation when I did, the medical forms would not be flowing at this time.

Les Paradis : 2012-12-04#174
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had I not initiated the litigation when I did, the medical forms would not be flowing at this time.


这句话是重点!

如果TIM没有首先发起诉讼,现在根本可能大规模发ME

少数尖酸刻薄斤斤计较不敢承担不敢奉献不敢赌赌了又输不起的破落户龌龊小气之辈永远不懂得“感恩”,但这个世界上有千万种人,没必要去纠结

marychenchen : 2012-12-05#175
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这句话是重点!

如果TIM没有首先发起诉讼,现在根本可能大规模发ME

少数尖酸刻薄斤斤计较不敢承担不敢奉献不敢赌赌了又输不起的破落户龌龊小气之辈永远不懂得“感恩”,但这个世界上有千万种人,没必要去纠结
:wdb10::wdb10::wdb10:

今我来思 : 2012-12-05#176
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  下月加拿大移民部“一刀切”技术移民案合法性聆讯
  [ 时间:2012-12-04 18:03:50 | 浏览:36次 | 来源:中国新闻网 ]
  法官在上月底两次开庭过后,虽拒绝受理“一刀切”集体诉讼,但已排期下月14日聆讯是否合法。针对超过8.6万宗因加拿大联邦移民部“一刀切”技术移民申请案所引起的诉讼,案件在加国联邦法院有新发展。
  有移民律师分析,这意味有4类诉讼人,如果未来法庭裁决一旦对申请人有利,同样也可受惠。多伦多律师李希(TimLeahy)2日表示,联邦法院法官伦尼(DonaldRennie)在上月23日及30日两天开庭后,清楚表明不打算受理“一刀切”集体诉讼。因此,在下月14日审讯前,将没有任何集体诉讼,相关裁决未来仅适用于那些已加入由个别律师提出的诉讼人士。
  他解释说,如果联邦法院最后判决《C-38法案》(BillC-38)中,有关一刀切废除2008年前的技术移民申请的条款违法,则遭废弃的全部8.6万宗申请案都可望“复活”。也就是说,那些通过个别律师提出的诉讼,将获法院处理。
  李希强调,本案虽已非集体诉讼,但法官此前已对移民部发出执行令,要求移民部在120天之内,即今年10月14日之前,对已经获得初审合格的诉讼代表人梁东(DongLiang,译音)等人发出最终审批结果。
  他分析说,只要属于在2008年2月之前提出的申请,包括从未审批、今年3月29日前获审批及3月29日后获审批的3类申请者,以及在2008年2月27日到2010年6月25日之间提出申请的这4类人士,如能提出诉讼申请,都存在受惠伦尼下月14日裁决的可能性。
  (大温哥华华裔移民律师钱路表示,如果联邦移民部在一刀切诉讼中败诉,即使未参与诉讼,只要属于上述4类情况的申请者,就可向败诉方移民部要求执行法庭判决,因此同样可获得诉讼胜利所带来的益处。这段存疑

Les Paradis : 2012-12-05#177
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天朝的媒体还一直都在关注我们起诉呢。

Les Paradis : 2012-12-05#178
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  (大温哥华华裔移民律师钱路表示,如果联邦移民部在一刀切诉讼中败诉,即使未参与诉讼,只要属于上述4类情况的申请者,就可向败诉方移民部要求执行法庭判决,因此同样可获得诉讼胜利所带来的益处。这段存疑

这个什么律师和黄国为一样,也太水了吧

这些人到底有没有学过法律啊?

没有学过法律认识英文吗?

只要认识英文字,就会发现这些人说出来的话漏洞百出。想要看玩笑也应该有点水平吧。

今我来思 : 2012-12-11#179
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这个什么律师和黄国为一样,也太水了吧

这些人到底有没有学过法律啊?

没有学过法律认识英文吗?

只要认识英文字,就会发现这些人说出来的话漏洞百出。想要看玩笑也应该有点水平吧。
【多伦多在线】自2013年1月1日起,北京将对加拿大、美国、英国、法国、澳大利亚等45个国家持有第三国签证和机票的外国人,在北京口岸实行72小时过境免签政策。这是北京市政府5日在此间举行的新闻发布会上宣布的。

此次实行72小时过境免签的45个国家有:奥地利、比利时、捷克、丹麦、爱沙尼亚、芬兰、法国、德国、希腊、匈牙利、冰岛、意大利、拉脱维亚、立陶宛、卢森堡、马耳他、荷兰、波兰、葡萄牙、斯洛伐克、斯洛文尼亚、西班牙、瑞典、瑞士、俄罗斯、英国、爱尔兰、塞浦路斯、保加利亚、罗马尼亚、乌克兰、美国、加拿大、巴西、墨西哥、阿根廷、智利、澳大利亚、新西兰、韩国、日本、新加坡、文莱、阿联酋、卡塔尔。

北京出入境边检总站站长助理吉丽霞介绍说,45国家的游客只要持有能证明其国籍身份的有效证件,并有72小时内已确认日期和座位、前往第三国或地区的连程机票或者其他证明,就可在首都机场边检办理72小时免签手续。她明确表示,获得72小时免签者活动范围仅限北京,离境时必须限从北京口岸离境。

北京市公安局出入境管理总队副总队长高华达表示,72小时过境免签外国人应当按时离京,如遇不可抗拒等原因,需要在京停留超过72小时的,或超出北京行政区域活动范围的,都应该到北京市公安局出入境管理总队办理相应的签证手续。外国人在京停留期间违反中国的法律法规,公安机关将依照中国的相关法律规定,依法予以处罚。

吉丽霞表示,北京边检将为享受72小时免签过境的旅客开设专门的区域和通道。此外,北京边检的24小时咨询电话56095400和北京官网、官方微博等进行答疑。

北京市旅游发展委员会副主任、新闻发言人王粤在发布会上表示,目前,宽松的签证政策是世界各国和主要旅游城市刺激入境游市场的通用法则,而入境旅游者接待人次是衡量一个城市国际吸引力的核心指标。此次北京实施的宽松过境免签政策后,预计到2015年,首都机场国际中转客流将达128万人次,其中,中转入境人数将达到64万人次。

王粤表示,新政策实施后,北京将建立和完善过境免签旅客的机场服务流程和旅游服务机制,并进一步丰富境外游客的特色旅游产品,拓宽针对过境游客的购物渠道,促进夜间消费市场发展,提升首都机场中转便利化程度,完善过境游客安全监管措施。

今我来思 : 2012-12-11#180
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【多伦多在线】自2013年1月1日起,北京将对加拿大、美国、英国、法国、澳大利亚等45个国家持有第三国签证和机票的外国人,在北京口岸实行72小时过境免签政策。这是北京市政府5日在此间举行的新闻发布会上宣布的。

此次实行72小时过境免签的45个国家有:奥地利、比利时、捷克、丹麦、爱沙尼亚、芬兰、法国、德国、希腊、匈牙利、冰岛、意大利、拉脱维亚、立陶宛、卢森堡、马耳他、荷兰、波兰、葡萄牙、斯洛伐克、斯洛文尼亚、西班牙、瑞典、瑞士、俄罗斯、英国、爱尔兰、塞浦路斯、保加利亚、罗马尼亚、乌克兰、美国、加拿大、巴西、墨西哥、阿根廷、智利、澳大利亚、新西兰、韩国、日本、新加坡、文莱、阿联酋、卡塔尔。

北京出入境边检总站站长助理吉丽霞介绍说,45国家的游客只要持有能证明其国籍身份的有效证件,并有72小时内已确认日期和座位、前往第三国或地区的连程机票或者其他证明,就可在首都机场边检办理72小时免签手续。她明确表示,获得72小时免签者活动范围仅限北京,离境时必须限从北京口岸离境。

北京市公安局出入境管理总队副总队长高华达表示,72小时过境免签外国人应当按时离京,如遇不可抗拒等原因,需要在京停留超过72小时的,或超出北京行政区域活动范围的,都应该到北京市公安局出入境管理总队办理相应的签证手续。外国人在京停留期间违反中国的法律法规,公安机关将依照中国的相关法律规定,依法予以处罚。

吉丽霞表示,北京边检将为享受72小时免签过境的旅客开设专门的区域和通道。此外,北京边检的24小时咨询电话56095400和北京官网、官方微博等进行答疑。

北京市旅游发展委员会副主任、新闻发言人王粤在发布会上表示,目前,宽松的签证政策是世界各国和主要旅游城市刺激入境游市场的通用法则,而入境旅游者接待人次是衡量一个城市国际吸引力的核心指标。此次北京实施的宽松过境免签政策后,预计到2015年,首都机场国际中转客流将达128万人次,其中,中转入境人数将达到64万人次。

王粤表示,新政策实施后,北京将建立和完善过境免签旅客的机场服务流程和旅游服务机制,并进一步丰富境外游客的特色旅游产品,拓宽针对过境游客的购物渠道,促进夜间消费市场发展,提升首都机场中转便利化程度,完善过境游客安全监管措施。
我们的护照上明确写着:中华人民共和国外交部请各国军政机关对持照人予以通行的便利和必要的协助。
肿么发现这一句不太好使?

今我来思 : 2012-12-11#181
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中国外交部网站 联系邮箱:webmaster@mfa.gov.cn>地址:北京市朝阳区朝阳门南大街2号 邮编:100701 电话:86-10-65961114
加拿大一刀切影响中国申请人两万二,这个群体相当大,有司是否该管管呢?让加拿大人,无论老少穷富,都可来中国随便玩三天不用签证,这个宽大政策是否缓行?等咱官司赢了再说?白等了五六年,末了花诉讼费,揪心等待,苦不堪言,这时候加拿大人乐呵呵来了,天朝各地名所,想去哪儿就去哪儿,我们心里啥滋味。

俗话说,有枣没枣打三竿子。咱跟官老爷诉诉苦,让他们了解下情,好跟康尼部长合计合计。一个人陈情作用很小,如果很多人来诉苦,官老爷也坐不住了,至少传传话吧。

xinxinxiong2006 : 2012-12-11#182
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小心外交部收回你的护照,不让你出境。

xinxinxiong2006 : 2012-12-11#183
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加拿大人去其他国家多数都是不要签证的,所以,北京这个免签三天对美国加拿大欧盟等国家来说,难度很大。需要有第三国签证啊,他们哪里去搞第三国签证呢?

tguozq : 2012-12-11#184
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小心外交部收回你的护照,不让你出境。
那今来思就按政治原因申请避难。

今我来思 : 2012-12-11#185
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那今来思就按政治原因申请避难。
:wdb6:终于找到政治避难的理由啦!多年前我一个新西兰VO朋友说,我不够格申请避难,不够严重。

今我来思 : 2012-12-11#186
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移民并非叛国,而是到国外发展,是一个公民应有的权利,也是为国家分忧,因为我国就业人口庞大,接受容纳能力有限。
以下为官方文章:
根据国际移民的经验, 今后的二三十年, 中国难免会出现移民潮。对这股移民潮不能堵, 只能趋利避害, 加以引导。这项任务虽然十分艰巨, 但对国家却有大利, 因为对外移民可以缓解国内就业的紧张形势, 发挥人力资源丰富的比较优势, 参与人力资源的全球配置, 增加侨汇收入, 吸收国外先进的科学技术, 提高人才素质, 壮大华侨队伍, 拓展华人经济网络, 促进中外贸易的发展和东西文化的交流。既然如此, “五侨”这支队伍, 除了努力引进华人资金、技术、人才之外, 是不是可以做点工作来协助有关部门做好移民的工作呢? 比如说, 通过华人网络帮助了解国际劳工市场的需要和动向, 获取合法移民的途径; 发挥归侨懂得当地语言的优势, 利用归侨熟悉国外情况的特点, 帮助移民顺利进入原居地; 通过华侨华人社会网络, 帮助新移民度过人生最困难的时刻, 促进新旧移民的互助与团结等。总之, 引进华人资金、技术、人才是为了支持国家建设, 帮助人们顺利地实现国际迁移也是为了国家的利益。这样做, 对侨务工作本身有三点好处: 一是为海外华侨华人社会提供源头活水, 输送新鲜血液, 有助于侨务资源本身的可持续发展和利用。光取蛋, 不养鸡, 难以为继; 二是有所取必有所予, 才能让华侨体会到祖国的关怀。一味地要求华侨华人奉献, 难得侨心; 三是移民初到异域, 人地生疏, 无依无靠, 是人生中最艰难曲折的一段经历, 祖国亲人的支持, 最能激起游子的爱国心; 海外创业, 功成名就者毕竟是少数, 多数人是辛勤平凡的劳动者, 帮助新移民的工作可以惠及移民的多数, 真正落实以人为本的政策。只为少数投资者服务, 必失去大多数华侨华人的真心支持。
  总之, 能否开阔眼界, 从国际移民的角度看待侨务工作, 这是能否真正贯彻党的科学发展观, 做到求真务实的大问题。

今我来思 : 2012-12-11#187
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 美国社会学家Massey 认为, 到21 世纪初, 国际人口迁移已明显形成五大体系, 即北美体系、欧洲体系、波斯湾体系、亚太体系和美洲南角体系。
  1. 北美移民体系 这是最古老的也是至今仍大量吸收移民的体系。在这个体系中, 美国吸收的外来人口数量为加拿大的5 - 6 倍, 虽然按移民与移民输入国人口比, 加拿大由于本国人口稀少其相对值比美国大。美国加利福尼亚一个州所吸收的永久性移民就比世界上任何一个国家多。2000 年, 美国外来移民已接近3000 万, 约占美国总人口的11 %。过去这个体系的移民主要来自欧洲, 现在, 拉丁美洲的加勒比地区移民约占45 % , 亚洲移民占36 % , 欧洲移民已降至13 % , 非洲、中东和大洋洲移民为数甚少。
  2. 欧洲移民体系 欧洲原是移民主要输出地, 其移民输入体系是在20 世纪下半叶才形成的。1970 年前主要是洲内人口流动即从南欧向西欧流动, 20 世纪70 年代后南欧各国也成为移民输入国。这个体系目前大部分移民来自中东和非洲。其中三分之一来自中东, 主要来自土耳其和黎巴嫩; 30 %来自非洲, 主要出自北非马格里布国家———阿尔及利亚、突尼斯和摩洛哥等国,18 %来自东欧的波兰、俄罗斯和前苏联的其它国家; 来自亚洲的移民较少, 只有10 %左右; 来自美洲的则更少。
  欧洲移民体系的形成是国际移民史上的新现象, 即首次大规模移民从人口相对稀少的地区向人口稠密地区迁移, 而这种迁移还出自欧洲主动招募“客工”。欧洲人原本希望“客工”完成任务后, 依约返回原籍, 但事与愿违, 移民反客为主, 遂使人口稠密的欧洲成了多元民族和多元文化的社会。
  3. 波斯湾移民体系 这个体系是在20 世纪70 年代石油危机后才形成的。由于石油美元的大量流入和当地劳工严重短缺, 中东成了吸收移民的一大新的中心。开始时主要招募中东周边国家的劳工, 20 世纪80 年代转而招募巴基斯坦、印度和孟加拉等亚洲国家的穆斯林, 随后又招募越南、韩国、菲律宾等国的非穆斯林劳工。由于输入国不愿外来移民成为永久居民, 更不愿意同族、同文、同教的移民介入当地的政治, 目前这个体系的移民多为临时工, 其中80 %以上来自亚洲, 只有13 %来自中东各国。
  4. 亚太移民体系 这个体系的特点是多中心。目前已形成澳大利亚、日本、东亚和东南亚新兴工业国家与地区四个移民接纳中心。其中澳大利亚的移民也如北美一样, 过去以欧洲白人为主, 现在则以亚太移民为主。日本从20 世纪起在吸收亚洲移民的同时也开始大量接纳美洲日裔劳工。20 世纪八九十年代东亚的韩国、台湾地区, 东南亚的新加坡、泰国和马来西亚也随着亚洲经济“奇迹”的出现先后由移民输出地变为移民输入地。就整个亚太体系而言, 来自亚洲的移民占81 % , 来自美洲和大洋洲的约占7 % , 来自中东的只占4 %。
  5. 拉美南角移民体系 这个体系中阿根廷、巴西和乌拉圭是古老的移民接纳国, 主要接纳来自意大利、西班牙和葡萄牙的移民, 1800 - 1970 年间进入拉丁美洲的1380 万移民中大约四分之三定居于巴西和阿根廷。二战后来自欧洲的移民锐减, 目前以阿根廷为中心的拉美南角移民体系的特点是移民流量少, 洲际移民不多, 主要来自阿根廷周围国家。据统计, 87 %的移民来自拉美, 6 %来自欧洲, 7 %来自亚洲。
  除了以上五大移民体系外, Massey 认为, 值得注意的还有南非移民体系。本文作者认为, 由于政治、经济、文化与历史因素, 以俄罗斯为中心的独联体移民体系也是不可忽视的。
  中国国际移民广泛分布在上述五大移民体系之中, 二战前的老移民主要分布在亚洲, 尤其是东南亚, 而改革开放后的新移民则多前往北美、欧洲和澳洲。在研究移民问题时, 我们不仅需要注意发达国家与发展中国家移民政策的不同, 也需要了解同属发达国家的北美和欧洲移民政策的差异, 因为两者属于不同的移民体系, 对待外来移民的态度和政策是极不相同的。有的学者认为, 中国在经济高速发展的同时实施严厉的计划生育政策, 未来可能会因人口老龄化和生育率下降而不得不输入劳动力, 形成新的移民体系。这虽是本世纪下半叶的事情, 但也值得认真考虑。

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解曰:换麻得丝,系人双足,要见分明,因灾得福.

此卦祸中有福之象,凡事先凶后吉也.
因灾得福.

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