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superstore买牛肉馅打开后看到了这样

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/615245/

Lilia_Van : 2012-12-06#1
为什么肉外面是红色的里面是这种颜色?


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漫步云中@桥 : 2012-12-06#2
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不新鲜了

caohonglu : 2012-12-06#3
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是不新鲜的表现

SunnySmile : 2012-12-06#4
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不新鲜了

+1

Lilia_Van : 2012-12-06#5
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为什么会出现里外2种颜色?里面的颜色是因为肉变质了吗?感觉像里面的肉被外面的红肉裹住似的

Helen钱 : 2012-12-07#6
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里面深颜色的肉馅,曾经解冻过,之后又和新鲜肉馅儿混在了一起。

herelee : 2012-12-07#7
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我已经在Costco,Wholefood 都发现了,一样手法,新鲜的裹着过期的卖!

建议大家还是买绞肉机,如果你爱吃饺子包子的话

shym275 : 2012-12-07#8
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一般刚买的时候都是红色的。但是我发现买回来后放冷冻室,之后提前从冷冻室拿出解冻准备第二天吃,结果忘记了,之后整个肉的颜色都会慢慢变成里面那种颜色。

A3A : 2012-12-07#9
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WHOLEFOOD 的牛肉碎也这样

sw.gao : 2012-12-07#10
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哪位给推荐个性价比高的绞肉机?

eor06 : 2012-12-07#11
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我是自己剁肉馅。

寂寞旅程 : 2012-12-07#12
回复: superstore买牛肉馅打开后看到了这样

不新鲜了

是不新鲜的表现


为什么会出现里外2种颜色?里面的颜色是因为肉变质了吗?感觉像里面的肉被外面的红肉裹住似的
LZ,请尽管放心的吃吧!家园的名流有的时候不论年龄大小,也可以偶尔扮一回天真。

南洋季候风 : 2012-12-07#13
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据说是外面的部分遇空气氧化变红,与里面的颜色出现差距。

寂寞旅程 : 2012-12-07#14
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:wdb17::wdb10::wdb45:
据说是外面的部分遇空气氧化变红,与里面的颜色出现差距。

南洋季候风 : 2012-12-07#15
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再看看这个:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...und-beef-at-supermarkets-contains-pink-slime/

octor : 2012-12-07#16
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來句題外話,最好不吃牛絞肉

寂寞旅程 : 2012-12-07#17
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來句題外話,最好不吃牛絞肉
:wdb10:

Mike Yuan : 2012-12-07#18
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:wdb10:

havefun : 2012-12-07#19
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这里允许零售商喷一种东西去保持肉的颜色鲜艳,各大超市都这样

就是有的颜色差别大点,有的小点而已

修破死到不能买肉的

九溪 : 2012-12-07#20
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就是整块的牛肉,切开以后里外的颜色也是有点不同的,是正常的吧。

北京爱心 : 2012-12-07#21
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是肌红蛋白氧化成高铁肌红蛋白了。肉之所以是红色是因为里面含有色素蛋白——肌红蛋白。肌红蛋白遇氧气后变成氧合肌红蛋白,就是我们看到的鲜艳的红色;但肌红蛋白和氧合肌红蛋白很容易氧化,氧化后就变成了灰褐色的高铁肌红蛋白。肌红蛋白在低氧分压(如肉的内部,氧气不容易渗进去)下极易氧化,从而形成高铁肌红蛋白。
肌红蛋白的这些化学变化都是正常的生化反应,肌红蛋白氧化后并不影响食用,也不代表细菌超标,但商品价值大大降低。

angela2006 : 2012-12-07#22
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我也发现只有superstore的牛肉馅是这样的

ldj_liu : 2012-12-07#23
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就是整块的牛肉,切开以后里外的颜色也是有点不同的,是正常的吧。

正解,我在欧洲超市买的整块的猪肉,也会发现这种情况,内芯部分和外半部完全不同的颜色,和楼主照片的颜色完全一样。
但是在国内,就没有发现同一块肉有这两种不同颜色。呵呵,大家说是不是国外食品安全不如国内的标准高啊?:wdb2:

小和尚 : 2012-12-07#24
回复: superstore买牛肉馅打开后看到了这样

是包装中充一氧化碳(煤气中的毒死人的成分)弄的,目的是还原被氧化了的三价铁,三价铁褐色。



PS:中国的气调包装充的是二氧化碳和氮气,是惰性的,只是阻止进一步氧化。



据他们说控制好是安全的,这是他们的理由,巴拉巴拉:
Safety of CO in Modified Atmosphere Packaging

The use of carbon monoxide as a gas to flush fresh meats in packaging has cause concern and controversy in the US over the last year, writes TheMeatSite senior editor Chris Harris.
Last year the American Meat Science Association commissioned a report to bring clarity to the discussion taking place within the meat industry and with policy makers and consumers over the use of carbon monoxide as component of fresh meat packaging systems.

AMSA said that Since World War II, Fresh meat was typically packaged using polyvinyl chloride (PVC) film overwrapped trays. More recently, modified atmosphere packaging (MAP) has been developed to extend the retail shelf life of the products.

"Since 2002, CO has been permitted as a MAP gas for use during distribution in the United States. In 2004, CO was further permitted at low levels as a MAP gas in retail fresh meat packaging," says the AMSA study.

"Although use of CO in meat packaging applications is relatively new in the United States, meat products have been exposed to CO as a component of wood smoke for decades. CO also has been used in the United States since the 1970s as a modified atmosphere gas component for shelf life extension of many fresh fruits and vegetables."

AMSA shows that using low levels of CO in MAP systems improves the colour stability and flavor of fresh meat with negligible risk of toxicity from the packaging process or consumption of CO-treated meats.

"The CO-MAP system also prevents premature browning during cooking of the meat, a common problem with some other MAP packaging methods," says AMSA.

"The CO-MAP packaging system inhibits growth of spoilage and pathogenic bacteria during refrigerated storage and can provide additional protection against bacterial growth after removal from the packaging or if temperature control is temporarily lost during distribution. Evidence also exists that CO-MAP packaging enhances tenderness.

"Red color can be maintained in low-CO treated meats that have spoiled, emphasizing the need for adherence to label instructions for product shelf life and the use of odor and overall appearance as spoilage indicators. Overall, inclusion of CO has both advantages and disadvantages that must be thoroughly considered to develop its use as packaging technology benefiting both consumers and the meat industry."

Now the American Meat Institute has also spoken out about some of the myths they say are being spread about the use of CO in packaging.

The AMI says that a petition that was submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) by Kalsec, Inc., maker of a line of herbal extracts that retard the effects of oxidation and maintain the colour and flavour of meat, makes numerous erroneous allegations about carbon monoxide used in some modified atmosphere packaged (MAP) meat products that are processed and packaged centrally at meat plants.

AMI says that caseready MAP packaging using carbon monoxide as one of the protective gases has been permitt ed for use by the FDA and the Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) of the US Department of Agriculture since February, 2002.

"In the almost four years leading up to Kalsec’s petition submission, the marketplace has increasingly adopted the use of low oxygen carbon monoxide packaging systems in place of MAP systems using high-oxygen in combination with herbal extracts, such as those supplied by Kalsec," says AMI.

"This shift appears to have triggered an aggressive effort to challenge the use of the low-oxygen carbon monoxide MAP systems, and attempt to block their use through erroneous regulatory arguments."

AMI said that teh argumentsset out in the FDA petition include both errors and omissions and it has now published a fact sheet to answer questions and demistify the use of CO in MAP and to show that its use is generally recognised as safe.



回想起刚出国旅游那会儿,真是太兴奋鸟,
超市肉鱼蔬菜太漂亮了。

小和尚 : 2012-12-07#25
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一氧化碳气调包装肉的亚慢性毒性研究


一氧化碳 气调包装 冷却肉; 目前,气调包装是延长冷却肉货架期的最有效和最常用的方法之一。在CO2+N2气体比例中添加低浓度的CO,利用CO,与肌红蛋白结合可形成比氧合肌红蛋白mbo2更稳定的一氧化碳肌红蛋白(mbco)

本实验用小白鼠...

donghao : 2012-12-07#26
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在Superstore买过臭肉, 现在不敢去那里买肉了

elea : 2012-12-07#27
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不知道这种肉馅是不是正常,我家十年前就不买肉馅了。牛肉馅,猪肉馅,羊肉馅,等等都是自己买好肉回家绞馅的。我妈总觉得买的肉馅用得不是好肉。其实自己绞馅也费不了多少时间的。

寂寞梧桐 : 2012-12-07#28
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还以为只有西人才买这种馅呢!华人一般都是自己在家剁的!

B-a-King : 2012-12-07#29
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氧化作用,正常的。

小和尚 : 2012-12-07#30
回复: superstore买牛肉馅打开后看到了这样

为什么肉外面是红色的里面是这种颜色?



是包装中充一氧化碳(煤气中的毒死人的成分)弄的,目的是还原被氧化了的三价铁,三价铁褐色。



PS:中国的气调包装充的是二氧化碳和氮气,是惰性的,只是阻止进一步氧化。



回想起刚出国旅游那会儿,真是太兴奋鸟,
超市肉鱼蔬菜太漂亮了。

一氧化碳气调包装肉的亚慢性毒性研究


一氧化碳 气调包装 冷却肉; 目前,气调包装是延长冷却肉货架期的最有效和最常用的方法之一。在CO2+N2气体比例中添加低浓度的CO,利用CO,与肌红蛋白结合可形成比氧合肌红蛋白mbo2更稳定的一氧化碳肌红蛋白(mbco)

本实验用小白鼠...

氧化作用,正常的。
:wdb5:

elea : 2012-12-07#31
回复: superstore买牛肉馅打开后看到了这样

哪位给推荐个性价比高的绞肉机?

我家一直用Cuisinart Waring Pro Meat Grinder。绞肉,灌香肠都可以,价格也不贵。

如果你有KitchenAid Stand Mixer,再买个它家的KitchenAid Food Grinder,安上绞肉也可以。我刚买了一个还没用,但是听说还不错。

绞肉机做肉馅很省力的,自己剁肉馅想想都累死了。不过想锻炼腕力的话,剁肉馅是个好方法。:wdb6:

爱咖啡滴猫 : 2012-12-07#32
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大家以为用新鲜肉末包裹上旧的肉末技术要求不高啊?这得手工操作吧?人工成本多高各位有数吧?
就是外层的肉接触空气干燥变色了而已。不过superstore的肉末肯定比不上costco的好倒是真的