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给孩子买教育基金是在银行买呢,还是在顾问那里买?
MAISIE 2006-11-22 08:28

想给孩子买教育基金, 到现在也没完全明白其中的道道, 不就是政府每年给400相当于20%的利息, 又听说有买基金一说, 有那位能给讲解一下吗?:wdb24:

还听说低收入家庭多给? 有这一说吗?:wdb2:

ChristinaGuo 2006-11-22 08:46

如果自己买收益会低些,而且我也不知道如何自己买.
如果咨询顾问的话,她会给多一些选择,视自己的情况买,有些收益是非常高的,且没有风险,只是对将来小孩子读什么书,读多久有严格的限制.
现在低收入确实会多拿一百.
我也在学习中,选择中.....
有什么收获和心得会与大家分享.

牛头熊掌 2006-11-22 09:12

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作者: ChristinaGuo (帖子 1180809)
有些收益是非常高的,且没有风险

这是不可能的。

ChristinaGuo 2006-11-22 09:16

我是穷人,对我来讲,6%的收益就很高,有的还能有BONUS,可保证是15%,我就觉得很高啊.
会有什么风险?即使是零收益,我还有BONUS,我很满足了,不过还在研究中,有失准确的地方请有识之士更正.

ChristinaGuo 2006-11-22 09:17

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作者: 牛头熊掌 (帖子 1180846)
这是不可能的。

你打算选哪家,
我们跟着选,呵呵

牛头熊掌 2006-11-22 09:44

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作者: ChristinaGuo (帖子 1180854)
你打算选哪家,
我们跟着选,呵呵

这这,俺还没想过啊,慢慢探讨...

MAISIE 2006-11-22 10:08

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作者: 牛头熊掌 (帖子 1180890)
这这,俺还没想过啊,慢慢探讨...

别慢慢探讨啊, 我们去年就登陆了,到现在还没买, 眼见着这一年也...
直接去银行不行?

arirang 2006-11-22 10:13

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作者: ChristinaGuo (帖子 1180852)
我是穷人,对我来讲,6%的收益就很高,有的还能有BONUS,可保证是15%,我就觉得很高啊.
会有什么风险?即使是零收益,我还有BONUS,我很满足了,不过还在研究中,有失准确的地方请有识之士更正.

穷人就不要买了呀。政府这里有陷阱,穷人家的孩子上大学可以申请贷款,其中相当大一部分是不用还的。买了RESP,就没有贷款,也就没有贷款减免,最终还是自己吃亏的。有些上学计划里,不仅不用出一分钱学费,连生活费政府都给你付,有了RESP,这类上学计划也泡汤了。

踏青 2006-11-22 11:12

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作者: arirang (帖子 1180949)
穷人就不要买了呀。政府这里有陷阱,穷人家的孩子上大学可以申请贷款,其中相当大一部分是不用还的。买了RESP,就没有贷款,也就没有贷款减免,最终还是自己吃亏的。有些上学计划里,不仅不用出一分钱学费,连生活费政府都给你付,有了RESP,这类上学计划也泡汤了。

还有这事,那不亏大了.
我是在银行买的,才第一年,很正规,不能补买登陆前的,据说有一些社会机构可以补买登陆前的,我是比较懒,图个放心.

LEOMM 2006-11-22 12:54

可是据说等十几年后学生贷款到底能贷多少,能不能贷到都是未知数喔~~~所以我还是买了,就当强制存钱了,不是还能有一点点政府补贴嘛,呵呵!

跟跟 2006-11-22 13:36

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作者: LEOMM (帖子 1181402)
可是据说等十几年后学生贷款到底能贷多少,能不能贷到都是未知数喔~~~所以我还是买了,就当强制存钱了,不是还能有一点点政府补贴嘛,呵呵!


我也这么认为的。:wdb10:

如果牵涉到贷款的话,那就等孩子上大学的时候到美国去读,然后举家迁到美国,那个时候不是又能申请贷款了???不知道我的设想可行不???:wdb24:

ddtemp 2006-11-22 14:13

帮顶!

最近急迫想知道RESP的情况.我也觉得在银行买省心,但是收益比找代理低很多啊.

两种总是各有利弊吧?

flatron 2006-11-23 03:04

论坛里有讨论过,自己搜搜就知道了.

xianzijj 2006-11-23 09:11

银行,具体资料你可以去咨询顾问

xianzijj 2006-11-23 09:13

但是如果你的孩子将来不会在加拿大上大学,或者是没有进入大学的话。那你卖了的话,倒是就全都退给你,而且连利息也没有。这钱只有存进去,到了大学以后才能拿出来。得到的利息多少,和你买的多少有关系。

arirang 2006-11-24 04:25

如果RESP出现亏损,而你孩子又没上大学花不出去,提取的时候,政府给你的钱全数退还,亏损全部是个人承担,政府不承担。

MAISIE 2006-11-24 05:06

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作者: arirang (帖子 1184769)
如果RESP出现亏损,而你孩子又没上大学花不出去,提取的时候,政府给你的钱全数退还,亏损全部是个人承担,政府不承担。

是不是可以直接办个定期存款也行啊?

美乐假期 2006-11-24 08:20

我是自己买。去年回报20%多,但是有风险!

美乐假期 2006-11-24 08:23

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作者: ddtemp (帖子 1181621)
帮顶!

最近急迫想知道RESP的情况.我也觉得在银行买省心,但是收益比找代理低很多啊.

两种总是各有利弊吧?


在银行买,自己操作投资!

MAISIE 2006-11-24 10:05

等孩子长大了上私立COLLEGE可不可以用这笔钱哪?

yali0509 2006-11-24 13:27

你们问的这些问题我老公都能回答你们,一下子说不明白。
当初我儿子买教育基金的时候我们都研究透了,有疑问你就打电话吧。778-908-0727,我老公姓张。

MAISIE 2006-11-25 04:22

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作者: yali0509 (帖子 1185777)
你们问的这些问题我老公都能回答你们,一下子说不明白。
当初我儿子买教育基金的时候我们都研究透了,有疑问你就打电话吧。778-908-0727,我老公姓张。

:wdb17:

跟跟 2006-11-25 12:20

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作者: MAISIE (帖子 1186985)
:wdb17:

搞清了上来总结一下,我也不知道究竟是银行好还是基金好。如果是基金,到底是哪个基金更好些。

sannorm 2006-11-26 03:33

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作者: arirang (帖子 1180949)
穷人就不要买了呀。政府这里有陷阱,穷人家的孩子上大学可以申请贷款,其中相当大一部分是不用还的。买了RESP,就没有贷款,也就没有贷款减免,最终还是自己吃亏的。有些上学计划里,不仅不用出一分钱学费,连生活费政府都给你付,有了RESP,这类上学计划也泡汤了。


是这样的,买了RESP,这个小孩就是富人了,拿了国家的钱了,他以后什么LOAN&BURSARY也申请不到.所以这只是为富家子弟设计的,一般工薪阶层不必买.别信顾问的话,要不他们怎么生存呢?

sannorm 2006-11-26 03:40

政府给的补助不是无限制的,好象最多是六千,孩子不上大学和COLLEGE的话或指定的孩子不用这笔FUND的话,这钱可转给你的另一个孩子用,否责本金归还政府,利息归你.

sannorm 2006-11-26 03:42

加拿大不是朝令夕改的国家,很多人靠贷款读书,包括做过总理部长的,取消贷款,大学生这一块这么多选票就没了.

sannorm 2006-11-26 03:50

Registered Education Savings Plans
TABLE OF CONTENTS
WHAT IS A REGISTERED EDUCATION SAVINGS PLAN (RESP)?
OPENING AN RESP
SAVING WITH AN RESP
CHOOSING THE RIGHT RESP FOR YOU
SERVICE FEES
MAKING YOUR MONEY GROW
HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA
USING YOUR RESP
BEFORE YOU OPEN AN RESP
WHERE CAN YOU GET MORE HELP?
Note: This document is also available in PDF format.

Learning is the key to success at every stage of life. Education is among the best investments you can make for the future. Close to 70% of all new jobs now depend on some form of education after high school.

Because the Government of Canada believes so strongly in the value of education, it will help you save by adding to the amount you put aside for a child's education.

This handbook tells you how to access programs that will help your savings grow faster. It also gives you useful information about Registered Education Savings Plans (RESPs) and other Government of Canada programs that can help you save for a child’s education after high school, including:

a Canada Education Savings Grant (CESG) that is added to the money you put into an RESP; and
a Canada Learning Bond (CLB), that is an additional grant worth up to $2,000 that may be available to you, depending on your family income.
Want to know more?
As you read this guide, you may have other questions about these programs. For more information about RESPs and investment options, call the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada (FCAC) at : 1-866-461-3222.

For information about Government of Canada education savings plans, call 1 800 O-Canada (1 800 622-6232).

If you have a speech or hearing impairment, you can use the TTY number, 1 800 926-9105. You can also visit www.canlearn.ca

WHAT IS A REGISTERED EDUCATION SAVINGS PLAN (RESP)?
A Registered Education Savings Plan is a special savings plan that can help you, your family or your friends save for education after high school. RESPs are registered with the Government of Canada so that savings for education can grow tax-free until the person named in the RESP enrolls in studies after high school.

OPENING AN RESP
Why should I open an RESP?
When you open an RESP for a child, the Government of Canada will help you save by adding money to your RESP through special savings incentives. These incentives are the Canada Education Savings Grant and the Canada Learning Bond. They are only available if you open an RESP. *

* Residents of Alberta who have an RESP may also be able to get additional grant money under the Alberta Centennial Education Savings Plan. For more information call 1-866-515-2237, or look on the Internet at http://www.advancededucation.gov.ab.ca/aces/.

Who can open an RESP?
Anyone — parent, grandparent, other relative or friend — can open an RESP for a child. You can even open a plan for yourself.

Where can I open an RESP?
You can open an RESP at most fi nancial institutions such as banks and credit unions, or with group plan dealers or fi nancial service providers. Institutions and organizations that offer RESPs are known as RESP providers.

For a list of RESP providers, call the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada at 1-866-461-3222 or go to www.fcac.gc.ca.

What do I need to open an RESP?
You need to get a birth certifi cate for your child from the provincial or territorial government where your child was born. You will also need your own Social Insurance Number (SIN) from the Government of Canada and a SIN for the child you are saving for. There is no cost or age limit to get a SIN. Even a baby can get one.

How do I apply for a Social Insurance Number?
Visit your local Service Canada Centre or Human Resource Centre of Canada (HRCC).
Call 1 800 O-Canada (1 800 622-6232) for more information.
Look on the Internet at www.hrsdc.gc.ca (keyword search ‘SIN’).
SAVING WITH AN RESP
Is there a minimum amount of money I need to put in an RESP?
The amount of money you put into an RESP depends on the type of RESP you choose and the amount of money you choose to invest. Some RESPs have no minimum deposit requirements, while others do. Before you decide on the type of RESP to open, be sure to shop around and fi nd the plan that best fits your budget and the RESP provider that best meets your needs. (Note: The Government of Canada will still add to your savings, no matter how little you put into your child’s RESP. )

Do I need a bank account to open an RESP?
No. You can open an RESP without having a bank account.

How much money can I put into an RESP?
You can put up to $4,000 into an RESP each year. Over your lifetime, you can invest up to $42,000 for each person named in an RESP.

How often do I have to put money into an RESP?
Some types of RESPs require specifi c monthly contributions. Others let you put money into your RESP whenever you want. Every RESP is different.

The sooner you start to save, the more your savings will grow. This is because you’ll begin to earn interest sooner. Even $5 a week can add up quickly, especially when government grants are added to your savings.

Can I open an RESP for myself?
Yes. There are no age limits for opening an RESP. You can open a plan for a child, or you can name yourself or another adult as the benefi ciary of your plan. An RESP allows adults to earn interest on their education savings tax-free. (Note: Adults cannot get the Canada Education Savings Grant or the Canada Learning Bond).

CHOOSING THE RIGHT RESP FOR YOU
You can choose from three types of RESPs: family, individual or group plan. Before you choose an RESP ask the RESP provider to explain the different types of plans so that you can decide on a plan that best suits your needs.

Family Plan
In a family plan, you can name one or more children as benefi ciaries of the RESP, but they must be related to you. They may be your children — including adopted children — grandchildren, brothers or sisters.

Individual Plan
An individual plan is for one person. The person does not have to be related to you. Since there are no age limits, you can even set up an RESP for yourself or another adult.

Group Plans
Group plans are offered and administered by group plan dealers. Each plan has its own rules. Be sure to read these rules carefully and shop around to get the plan that best suits your needs. Usually, group plan dealers must put the money in low-risk investments such as bonds, Treasury Bills and Guaranteed Income Certifi cates (GICs). Usually, you have to sign a contract agreeing to make regular payments into the plan over a certain period of time.

In a group plan, your savings are “pooled” with those of other people. The amount of money your child gets is based on how much money is in the pool and on the total number of students of the same age who are in school that year. Make sure you ask your group plan dealer what happens to the money if the child does not continue with education right after high school. In order to collect the RESP, the benefi ciary has up to the age of 26 to attend a post-secondary educational institution.

SERVICE FEES
Some RESP providers charge service fees, others do not. Some may also limit the amount of money you can put into your plan and tell you how often you can contribute. Before you open an RESP, ask the RESP provider to explain any fees, limits, penalties or promises to make regular payments. Shop around for the cost and type of RESP that best suits your needs.

MAKING YOUR MONEY GROW
How do I decide what to do with the money I put in an RESP?
Once you have decided whether to open a family, individual or group plan, ask your RESP provider about your investment choices. You can leave your money in a savings account or choose from a variety of options such as bonds, guaranteed investment certifi cates (GICs), mutual funds or stocks. It is important to take your time. Ask your RESP provider questions about your investment choices, including the pros and cons of each.

Note: Some of your investment choices may have more risk, service fees or penalties. Make sure you ask for a list of the fees or penalties that may apply.

Do I pay tax when I take money out of an RESP?
You will not pay taxes on the money you have invested in the RESP. The interest your investment earns while it is in your RESP will be taxed, but only when the RESP is closed or money is taken out to pay for the education of a person named in the plan as a benefi ciary. Since many students have little or no other income, they can usually withdraw the money tax free.

HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA
Canada Education Savings Grant
When you open an RESP for a child, the Government of Canada will add the Canada Education Savings Grant (CESG) to your savings. Since 1998, more than two million children have benefi ted from these grants.

Who can get the Canada Education Savings Grant?
Most children under 18 years of age can receive the grant, as long as they are Canadian residents are named as benefi ciaries of the RESP and have a valid Social Insurance Number (SIN), and at least $1 has been put into the RESP.

Note: There are special rules that apply for children in the years they turn age 16 or 17.

How do I get the Canada Education Savings Grant?
All you need to do to get a CESG is:

Get a birth certifi cate from your provincial or territorial government and then get a SIN for your child from the Government of Canada. There is no cost for a SIN. Anyone, even a baby, can get one.
Choose an RESP provider. (RESP providers include most fi nancial institutions such as banks, credit unions, group plan dealers or fi nancial service providers).
Open an RESP for your child.
Put some money in your RESP.
Ask your RESP provider to apply for the CESG on behalf of your child.
The grant money will be deposited directly into your child’s RESP.

How much is the grant?
The amount of the grant is based on your family income. The amount can change over time as your family income changes.

Depending on your family income, your child could receive an additional grant on RESP savings that you make after December 31, 2004 on behalf of a child:

If your net family income is below $36,378*, the Canada Education Savings Grant will give you 40 cents for every dollar on the fi rst $500 you save in your child’s RESP each year. If you save more than $500, you will get 20 cents for every extra dollar, up to a maximum of $2,000.
If your net family income is below $72,756*, the Canada Education Savings Grant will give you 30 cents for every dollar on the fi rst $500 you save in your child’s RESP each year. If you save more than $500, you will get 20 cents for every extra dollar, up to a maximum of $2,000.
No matter what your net family income is, the grant provides at least 20 cents for every dollar of the fi rst $2,000 of annual RESP savings made on behalf of a child. If you make $2,000 in RESP contributions in one year, you will receive between $400 and $500 in CESG (depending on your family income).

*2006 amounts — These amounts are updated each year based on the rate of infl ation.

Your net family income is reported on your Canada Child Tax Benefi t statement (commonly known as “baby bonus”, or “family allowance”) that you receive from the Canada Revenue Agency each July. It is important to apply to the Canada Revenue Agency for the Canada Child Tax Benefi t as it may affect the amount of CESG you will receive.

Canada Learning Bond
The Canada Learning Bond (CLB) is a Government of Canada grant to help families start saving early for their child’s education after high school.

Who can get the Canada Learning Bond?
You can get the Canada Learning Bond if:

Your child was born after December 31st, 2003; and
Your monthly Canada Child Tax Benefi t payment (commonly known as “baby bonus” or “family allowance”) includes the National Child Benefi t Supplement.
For families who qualify, the Government of Canada will add to a child’s RESP by making a fi rst payment of $500, plus extra payments of $100 a year for children up to the age of 15, as long as you receive the National Child Benefi t Supplement annually. The total CLB available for a child could amount to $2,000.

An additional $25 will be paid into the RESP with the fi rst $500 bond to help cover the cost of opening the plan.

How do I get the Canada Learning Bond for my child?
All you need to do to get a CLB is:

Apply for a birth certifi cate and then a SIN for your child.
Apply to the Canada Revenue Agency for the Canada Child Tax Benefi t Supplement.
Choose an RESP provider who offers the Canada Learning Bond. (RESP providers include most fi nancial institutions such as banks and credit unions as well as group plan dealers or other fi nancial service providers).
Open an RESP for your child.
Ask your RESP provider to apply for the CLB on behalf of your child.
The bond money will be deposited directly into your child’s RESP.

Do I have to put money into an RESP to get the Canada Learning Bond?
No. Even if you don’t put money into your RESP, the Government of Canada will deposit the Canada Learning Bond into the RESP you opened for your child.

USING YOUR RESP
How soon can the person(s) named in the plan start using the money?
The student can start receiving money from the RESP as soon as he or she is enrolled in a qualifi ed post-secondary educational program.

What is a qualifi ed educational program?
Qualifi ed educational programs include apprenticeships and programs offered by a trade school, CEGEP, college or university.

Usually, a qualifi ed educational program is a course of study that lasts at least three weeks in a row, with at least 10 hours of instruction or work each week. A program at a foreign educational institution must last at least 13 weeks.

Note: To find out more about qualified educational programs ask your RESP provider or call the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada at: 1-866-461-3222.

Can RESP funds be used for students going to school part-time?
Yes. RESP funds can be used for either full- or part-time study in a qualifi ed program.

What happens to the RESP if the person named does not continue education after high school?
If a person named in the RESP decides not to continue education after high school, you may be able to:

Wait for a period of time. They may decide to continue studying later. RESP accounts can remain open for up to 26 years. In special cases, some plans could remain open for as long as 31 years.
Transfer the money to a brother or sister’s RESP if he or she decides to continue his or her education after high school.
Transfer the money into a Registered Retirement Savings Plan (RRSP) to help you save for your retirement.
Withdraw the money. Ask your RESP provider for details.
Make sure you check with your RESP provider to find out about any conditions that may apply to the plan if your child does not continue education after high school.

If you withdraw the money, how much tax will you have to pay?
You will not be taxed on the amount you contributed to the RESP, but you will have to pay taxes on the money you earned in your plan as interest.

This money is called accumulated income. It will be taxed at your regular income tax level, plus an additional 20 percent.

You may withdraw the income earned in the RESP if:
all the persons named in the plan are at least 21 years old;
you are a Canadian resident; and
you opened the RESP at least 10 years ago.
What happens to the Government of Canada grants if the person named in the RESP decides not to continue education after high school?
The Canada Education Savings Grant may be used for another child’s education. The Canada Learning Bond cannot be transferred to another child and must be returned to the Government of Canada. The amount that you saved and the interest it earned goes back to you.

Is there a time limit?
An RESP can stay open for a maximum of 26 years. In special cases, some plans could remain open for as long as 31 years.
BEFORE YOU OPEN AN RESP…
Look for an RESP provider (bank, credit union, group plan dealer or fi nancial service provider) that best meets your needs.
Make sure you have a Social Insurance Number (SIN) for yourself and the person named in the RESP.
Decide if you want to manage your savings yourself or obtain the services of a fi nancial advisor.
Decide if you want to open an individual, family or group plan.
Then ask your RESP provider these questions:
Does it cost anything to open an RESP?
Once I have opened an RESP, will I have to pay any fees? If so, what are they for and how much will I have to pay?
Do I have to put in a minimum amount of money to open an RESP?
Do I have to make a regular payment?
What happens if I cannot make a regular payment? Do I lose my investment?
What are my investment choices? What are the pros and cons of each choice? Can the value of my investment go down?
Can I withdraw money if I need it? Are there penalties for withdrawing money early?
Can I transfer the RESP to another person or to another RESP provider? What is the cost to transfer?
What will happen to my savings in the RESP if the recipient of the RESP does not continue his or her education after high school?
Does the RESP provider limit the types of qualifi ed educational programs that I can use my savings for?
What happens if I close my RESP early?
WHERE CAN YOU GET MORE HELP?
For more information about RESPs and banking, contact the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada (FCAC):

Toll-free: 1-866-461-3222

E-mail: info@fcac.gc.ca

Web site: www.fcac.gc.ca

The Financial Consumer Agency of Canada is an agency of the Government of Canada. FCAC makes sure that banks respect the laws that protect you.

For more information about the Canada Education Savings Grant or the Canada Learning Bond, or to order a copy of this brochure, call 1 800 O-CANADA (1 800 622-6232). If you have a speech or hearing impairment, use the TTY number, 1 800 926-9105.

Website: www.canlearn.ca

Canada Education Savings Grants and Canada Learning Bonds are Government of Canada initiatives offered by Human Resources and Social Development.


http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/asp/gateway.a...P.shtml&hs=cgs

跟跟 2006-11-26 04:53

楼主打听下来了吗?也给我们上上课

MAISIE 2006-11-26 06:22

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作者: 跟跟 (帖子 1188929)
楼主打听下来了吗?也给我们上上课

还没呢, 这几天很忙, 等我决定了, 我一定把结果告诉大家。

跟跟 2006-11-26 10:07

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作者: MAISIE (帖子 1188992)
还没呢, 这几天很忙, 等我决定了, 我一定把结果告诉大家。

先谢谢了。:wdb6:

上课认真听,然后还要做笔记:wdb6: ,事后再来这里做总结,然后我们大家都跟着你买:wdb6:

东成西就 2006-11-26 11:01

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作者: LEOMM (帖子 1181402)
可是据说等十几年后学生贷款到底能贷多少,能不能贷到都是未知数喔~~~所以我还是买了,就当强制存钱了,不是还能有一点点政府补贴嘛,呵呵!

有道理:wdb10:

arirang 2006-11-27 09:21

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作者: 东成西就 (帖子 1189278)
有道理:wdb10:

贷款永远不可能取消,除非加拿大政府破产,银行那些顾问为了赚钱,当然会找些借口。不要被他们骗了。

MAISIE 2006-11-27 13:20

还是没整明白!
大家有问题还是问问21楼贴的那个电话找张先生吧, 我打电话咨询了,他挺清楚的, 但是让我再总结---实在总结不了! 真的没这个能力.

长白山 2007-04-12 08:51

帮定!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3com 2007-08-01 01:33

贷款也得还吧?谁去还贷款?

送给给孩子一笔钱,还是给孩子一笔债?

父母有条件的就给孩子买上,不要算计的太精明,人算不如天算。