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好像很多地方说到SIN卡不能随便给人看...

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/88405/

koifans : 2006-12-06#1
不知道怎么搞的,那些帖子一下子都找不到了。请教一下到底是为什么?能给什么人看呢?

比如我明天约了一个类似中介的机构,他就要我带SIN卡过去,请问我能给他看吗?

在线等答案。多谢!

糯米粉粉 : 2006-12-06#2
给他看,没什么可怕的

koifans : 2006-12-06#3
给他看,没什么可怕的
谢谢!不过还请详细说明:是给中介看没有问题还是给任何人看都没有问题?

sannorm : 2006-12-06#4
谢谢!不过还请详细说明:是给中介看没有问题还是给任何人看都没有问题?
给中介看没有问题
给任何人看问题就大了,人家会用你的号码去领工资偷办信用卡诈骗犯罪等.:wdb24:

koifans : 2006-12-06#5
给中介看没有问题
给任何人看问题就大了,人家会用你的号码去领工资偷办信用卡诈骗犯罪等.:wdb24:
晕!拿我的号码就可以领工资了?我还没工作呢!

sannorm : 2006-12-06#6
晕!拿我的号码就可以领工资了?我还没工作呢!
是啊,还有护照移民卡信用卡银行卡驾照医疗卡总之一切私人证件都不能给别人看,家庭地址也要保密.

koifans : 2006-12-07#7
是啊,还有护照移民卡信用卡银行卡驾照医疗卡总之一切私人证件都不能给别人看,家庭地址也要保密.

如何区分哪些要求是正当的,哪些能不给?比如我约见了两个中介,一个要我带PR卡去,一个要我带SIN卡去,给他们看都没有问题。但是我去fido办手机的时候他们要了我的SIN卡,好像还复印了,这就没有道理了,是吗?

一句话,SIN卡可以给哪些人看?

ivyshao : 2006-12-07#8
如何区分哪些要求是正当的,哪些能不给?比如我约见了两个中介,一个要我带PR卡去,一个要我带SIN卡去,给他们看都没有问题。但是我去fido办手机的时候他们要了我的SIN卡,好像还复印了,这就没有道理了,是吗?

一句话,SIN卡可以给哪些人看?

SIN card全名是Social Insurance Number card, 它是我们在政府系统里面的主要识别标志(如果打电话去Service Canada,全凭这个号码找到你)

这是它的定义:The Social Insurance Number (SIN) is a nine-digit number that you require to work in Canada or to receive government benefits.

也就是说它和工作有关,和福利有关。和除此以外的任何东西都无关。除了你工作单位以及政府部门,其他人都不需要使用这个号码。而且SIN 卡没有照片,也起不了“标识个人身份”的作用.

中介要看一下SIN卡或者PR的目的,主要是看你是否有在加拿大工作的权力吧。但是,如果还没有到谈offer的地步,我觉得没有看SIN卡的必要。他们那么做,很不专业。

至于Fido,更加没有理由看SIN卡了。

假如SIN被人盗用,后果很恐怖:
如果有人拿你的SIN卡去打工,那么你该年的收入在政府系统里面就会很多。(系统里面是不会显示名字的)。如果当政府发现你该年的报税与收入不符的话,后果是很严重的。(具体如何,我倒不太清楚)

当然,遇到这种情况,你可以申诉,但过程极其复杂。因为政府需要调出所有的T4,实地走访每一家出T4的单位,核实在那里上班的人是不是你。据Service Canada的人说,通常需要1年左右的时间。

所以,SIN卡千万要小心保管。如果它在你的皮夹里,请你立刻取出来,放在家中保管。

下面是Service Canada有关SIN卡的资料:
http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/en/sc/sin/index.shtml

hull : 2006-12-07#9
学到。谢谢。

sannorm : 2006-12-07#10
如何区分哪些要求是正当的,哪些能不给?比如我约见了两个中介,一个要我带PR卡去,一个要我带SIN卡去,给他们看都没有问题。但是我去fido办手机的时候他们要了我的SIN卡,好像还复印了,这就没有道理了,是吗?

一句话,SIN卡可以给哪些人看?
办手机要SIN卡,信用卡和驾照中两个这是规定.

koifans : 2006-12-08#11
谢谢!谁设计的SIN卡,好笨哪!加上照片或签名不就可以了?

ivyshao : 2006-12-08#12
办手机要SIN卡,信用卡和驾照中两个这是规定.

Fido的签约手机需要两个ID证明,信用卡、枫叶卡、驾照任选其二就可以了,并不一定要SIN卡。再说SIN卡没有照片,只有和其它的卡在一起用,才能起到识别作用。其它的手机我倒是不太清楚,但手机公司要证件的目的无非是为了确认身份,防止欺诈、欠款等。根据SIN卡,他查不到电话、地址的(更换地址是不需要更改SIN卡的),所以我感觉SIN卡并不是一个"must".

信用卡申请的时候,一般都会要求你提供SIN卡。但也不是必须的,可以忽略不填。特别是做电话申请,网上申请的时候,要小心, 这类欺诈案件太多了。一般我去银行直接申请的话,我会提供一下(主要是做credit check, 我以前卖过信用卡,所以比较清楚一点)

谢谢!谁设计的SIN卡,好笨哪!加上照片或签名不就可以了?

前两天我在Service Canada听讲座的时候,有人也提到这个问题。之所以不加照片是因为:
1。这个号码只是和政府相关,和个人的福利有关。
2。从开始工作到退休,这个号码一直不变。但人的容貌发生很大的变化,如果有照片,就需要经常更换,成本比较大。
3。如果加了照片,成了identity card,那遗失偷窃的机会就比较大。一旦发生,不但直接影响到个人福利,而且调查的成本都很大。

我觉得也有一定的道理吧。

luhui : 2006-12-08#13
呵呵,赶紧从钱包里拿出来。:)

ggw : 2006-12-08#14
sin卡加上你的生日住址等信息,完全可以做信用诈骗,这种事摊上了虽然你最终不一定有损失,但摆平很麻烦,牵扯很多精力和时间

koifans : 2006-12-08#15
前两天我在Service Canada听讲座的时候,有人也提到这个问题。之所以不加照片是因为:
1。这个号码只是和政府相关,和个人的福利有关。
2。从开始工作到退休,这个号码一直不变。但人的容貌发生很大的变化,如果有照片,就需要经常更换,成本比较大。
3。如果加了照片,成了identity card,那遗失偷窃的机会就比较大。一旦发生,不但直接影响到个人福利,而且调查的成本都很大。
我觉得也有一定的道理吧。

那加上签名不行吗?就像信用卡一样。

前生为鱼 : 2006-12-08#16
学习了,谢谢!

喜欢春天 : 2006-12-08#17
SIN卡不要随身带,记住号码就行了.办SIN卡的时候GOVERNMENT的人不是提示过我们吗?SIN卡只能提供给银行(开户)\雇主(发工资)\政府(象人力资源部门)

sannorm : 2006-12-08#18
Fido的签约手机需要两个ID证明,信用卡、枫叶卡、驾照任选其二就可以了,并不一定要SIN卡。再说SIN卡没有照片,只有和其它的卡在一起用,才能起到识别作用。其它的手机我倒是不太清楚,但手机公司要证件的目的无非是为了确认身份,防止欺诈、欠款等。根据SIN卡,他查不到电话、地址的(更换地址是不需要更改SIN卡的),所以我感觉SIN卡并不是一个"must".


买手机枫叶卡不是必需的,因为只有移民才有枫叶卡,公民和其他人是没枫叶卡的,而枫叶卡被盗用更麻烦,比如国内人家拿了你的枫叶卡去开公司,名义上给你个懂事长,如果这公司有问题,你还得负法律责任,到时说也说不清.

koifans : 2006-12-08#19
我怎么查我的SIN卡相关的信息呢?比如随时监控自己SIN卡卡号下的收入,或者用枫叶卡登记的记录?这样一旦有异常就能及时发现。

还有就是到底是枫叶卡还是SIN卡相当于中国的身份证。我觉得枫叶卡仅仅是说明你在加拿大的永久居民身份,应该在出入境的时候用,或者在注册公司的时候说明你的身份;SIN卡说明你有工作的许可,有工作就有收入,所以相关信息是挂在SIN卡下的。我的理解对不对?

sannorm : 2006-12-08#20
枫叶卡相当于中国的身份证

sannorm : 2006-12-08#21
SIN卡不说明你有工作的许可,国际学生也有SIN卡的,来探亲的也有.

sannorm : 2006-12-08#22
A Social Insurance Number (SIN) is a number issued in Canada to administer various government programs. The SIN was created in 1964 to serve as a client account number in the administration of the Canada Pension Plan and Canada's varied employment insurance programs. In 1967, Revenue Canada (now the Canada Revenue Agency) started using the SIN for tax reporting purposes. SINs are issued by Human Resources and Skills Development Canada (previously Human Resources Development Canada).

The SIN is formatted as three groups of three digits (e.g., 123-456-789).

Through functionality creep, the SIN has become a de facto national identification number, much in the same way as the Social Security Number in the United States. Although, unlike in the US, in Canada there are specific legislated purposes for which a SIN can be requested. Unless an organization can demonstrate that the reason they are asking for a person's SIN is specifically allowed by law, or that no alternative identifiers would suffice to complete the transaction, they cannot deny or refuse a product or service on the grounds of a refusal to provide a SIN. Examples of organizations that legitimately require an SIN include employers, banks and investment companies, and federal government agencies. Giving an SIN when applying for consumer credit, such as buying a car or electronics, or allowing it to be used as a general purpose identification number, such as by your cable company, is likely a bad idea.

Social Insurance Numbers that begin with the number "9" are issued to temporary residents who are not Canadian citizens (e.g., foreign students, individuals on work visas) or permanent residents. These individuals must have an employment authorization in order to work in Canada. SINs beginning with a "9" are different from SINs assigned to citizens and permanent residents, because they have an expiry date (which usually coincides with the expiration of the holder's work authorization). These SINs are invalid unless there is an expiry date listed on the card and the date has not passed.

糯米粉粉 : 2006-12-08#23
探亲也有SIN卡吗?我指导国际学生是可以打工的(以前限制在学校内,现在放开了),才发SIN卡,探亲没听说过。

sannorm : 2006-12-08#24
探亲也有SIN卡吗?我指导国际学生是可以打工的(以前限制在学校内,现在放开了),才发SIN卡,探亲没听说过。

Social Insurance Numbers that begin with the number "9" are issued to temporary residents who are not Canadian citizens (e.g., foreign students, individuals on work visas.
探亲 ---> individuals on work visas

糯米粉粉 : 2006-12-08#25
拜托探亲签证是探亲签证,工作签证是工作签证,不是一回事。探亲签证打工是违法的。

水门提督 : 2006-12-08#26
Social Insurance Numbers that begin with the number "9" are issued to temporary residents who are not Canadian citizens (e.g., foreign students, individuals on work visas.
探亲 ---> individuals on work visas
粉粉说得对,探亲签证和工作签证是两码事情.

sannorm : 2006-12-08#27
拜托探亲签证是探亲签证,工作签证是工作签证,不是一回事。探亲签证打工是违法的。

从美国欧洲英联邦和香港来探亲的就可工作.知道了吗?心中要装个世界不仅仅是中国.
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sannorm : 2006-12-08#28
再说我只讲来探亲的也有SIN卡,并没说打工,是真的,你要带家人去办.
探亲 ---> individuals on work visas表示你到了换可以吗?
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To visit Canada you:

must be healthy. You might need a doctor’s examination;
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will need a Temporary Resident Visa (TRV) if you are from one of these countries; and
may need a letter of invitation.
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糯米粉粉 : 2006-12-08#29
从美国欧洲英联邦和香港来探亲的就可工作.知道了吗?心中要装个世界不仅仅是中国.
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你办过?不要乱说,即使是美国欧洲英联邦香港过来打工,依然要申请working visa。他们3个月内免签的是以旅游探亲为目的的,不能打工。我自己就有香港亲戚想来加拿大打工呢,可怎么打?除非打黑工。

糯米粉粉 : 2006-12-08#30
再说我只讲来探亲的也有SIN卡,并没说打工,是真的,你要带家人去办.
探亲 ---> individuals on work visas表示你到了换可以吗?
Do You Want to Visit Canada?
Every year more than 35 million people visit Canada. Canada welcomes these visitors as tourists, students or temporary workers. As a visitor, you will enjoy the many opportunities Canada has to offer.

Learn more about:
working temporarily in Canada; or
studying in Canada.
Before coming to Canada
To visit Canada you:

must be healthy. You might need a doctor’s examination;
must respect Canadian laws;
will need a valid passport, proof of who you are or other travel documents;
will need a Temporary Resident Visa (TRV) if you are from one of these countries; and
may need a letter of invitation.
Canada does not pay for hospital or medical services for visitors. Make sure you have health insurance to pay your medical costs before you leave for Canada.

You may not be permitted to enter Canada if you have a criminal conviction, including a conviction for driving while impaired. Find out more about inadmissibility to Canada.

Read important information on the new Advance Passenger Information/Passenger Name Record program (API/PNR).

Contact a Canadian embassy, high commission or consulate for information on what you will need before coming to Canada.

Once you arrive:
An officer will ask you a few short questions when you arrive. To make this go quickly, keep your passport with you and not in your luggage.

The officer will stamp your passport or advise you how long you may stay in Canada. Feel free to ask questions if you are unsure about anything.

After you arrive, you may want to change the conditions of your visit. .This is possible in special cases. You must do this before your status as a temporary resident expires. Apply to extend your stay or visit at least 30 days before your visa expires

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能不能换不是由你决定的,要申请。换完后就不再是探亲签证了,探亲签证根本不能拿SIN卡。照你的意思,你还不如说探亲后可以拿非9字头的SIN卡。只要申请难民,马上就有了。

sannorm : 2006-12-08#31
能不能换不是由你决定的,要申请。换完后就不再是探亲签证了,探亲签证根本不能拿SIN卡。照你的意思,你还不如说探亲后可以拿非9字头的SIN卡。只要申请难民,马上就有了。
不是照我的,也不是你的意思,是照政府的,Temporary residents可以申请SIN卡,能不能打工我就不和你论下去了,有空自己查查.:wdb25:

How to apply...
Proof-of-Identity Requirements
Each time you apply for a Social Insurance Number card, you must provide a primary document and a supporting document if the name you are now using is different than the name appearing on your primary document.
Select the category that best describes your status in Canada:
Canadian citizen born in Canada
Canadian citizen born outside Canada
Status Indian born in Canada
Status Indian born outside Canada
Permanent resident
Temporary residentshttp://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/cs/sin/100.shtml#c3

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/cs/sin/100.shtml#c6

sannorm : 2006-12-08#32
你办过?不要乱说,即使是美国欧洲英联邦香港过来打工,依然要申请working visa。他们3个月内免签的是以旅游探亲为目的的,不能打工。我自己就有香港亲戚想来加拿大打工呢,可怎么打?除非打黑工。
美国不需工作WORK VISA,这是100%给你的答复.就和加拿大公民去美国工作一样,讲什么话就附上证据,而不是哇哇哇.....:wdb1:

koifans : 2006-12-08#33
两位大侠不要着急,我来打个岔。
我昨天考驾照笔试,过了,不过中国驾照被收走,并且给了一张黄纸,说是Learner License。但是工作人员跟我说不能一个人开车了,是这样的吗?
那张纸上有一句话,叫:"NOTE: Qualified Supervisor Required",就是这个意思吧?

那我老婆还有中国驾照,有她坐我旁边是不是就可以开车了? :)

ggw : 2006-12-08#34
我怎么查我的SIN卡相关的信息呢?比如随时监控自己SIN卡卡号下的收入,或者用枫叶卡登记的记录?这样一旦有异常就能及时发现。

还有就是到底是枫叶卡还是SIN卡相当于中国的身份证。我觉得枫叶卡仅仅是说明你在加拿大的永久居民身份,应该在出入境的时候用,或者在注册公司的时候说明你的身份;SIN卡说明你有工作的许可,有工作就有收入,所以相关信息是挂在SIN卡下的。我的理解对不对?
你的理解基本对,sin号就是身份证号,在政府眼里那个数字就是你,枫叶卡不过是移民身份的一个补充证明。

sannorm : 2006-12-08#35
你的理解基本对,sin号就是身份证号,在政府眼里那个数字就是你,枫叶卡不过是移民身份的一个补充证明。

大虾,下面两段红字翻成英文哪个算身份证啊?公民得了公民卡(公民身份证)那叫什么啊?和中国的身份证不等价?

The Maple Leaf Card in Canada is the same as the Green Card in the US.
A Maple Leaf Card allows you to work and live in Canada, and become a Canadian citizen after 3 years.
This small plastic card is a new document that was introduced because of the terrorist attacks of 11 September, 2001. It is an identity card of high security standards and replaces the old paper document that was called 'Record of Landing'.
After June 2002, each successful immigrant will be issued a Maple Leaf Card as proof of rightful residency in Canada. By 2004, all residents in Canada that are not Canadian citizens must be in possession of a Maple Leaf Card.

A Social Insurance Number (SIN) is a number issued in Canada to administer various government programs

sannorm : 2006-12-08#36
身份证要有照片,这是常识,所以驾照在加拿大算身份证之一,医疗卡也可以,有时.

sannorm : 2006-12-08#37
两位大侠不要着急,我来打个岔。
我昨天考驾照笔试,过了,不过中国驾照被收走,并且给了一张黄纸,说是Learner License。但是工作人员跟我说不能一个人开车了,是这样的吗?
那张纸上有一句话,叫:"NOTE: Qualified Supervisor Required",就是这个意思吧?

那我老婆还有中国驾照,有她坐我旁边是不是就可以开车了? :)

你LP要加拿大驾照后并有有三年驾龄=NOTE: Qualified Supervisor Required

sannorm : 2006-12-08#38
身份证是IEDENTITY的东西,要有性别,名字,年龄,地址,和中国是一样的,那种卡上的号码就是身份证号码.你犯了罪,被警察抓了,要你的移民卡,驾照或公民卡,难道到了加拿大连常识也没了,还问了又问,答了又答.:wdb25:
这是我最后的回答,LIBRARIAN也被你们搞火了. :wdb7:

koifans : 2006-12-09#39
你LP要加拿大驾照后并有有三年驾龄=NOTE: Qualified Supervisor Required

那完了,我连去考点都去不了了?!

palmer : 2006-12-09#40
SIN 就是一个号码,关系的你的福利,税务。一生不变。
不要随便给别人看,注意保密。
找工作,你告诉别人你可以合法工作就可以了。
直到最后签合同了才需要看你的SIN卡。

ivyshao : 2006-12-11#41
我也败给你们了。。。。那么简单一件事儿

安妮的仙境 : 2006-12-14#42
介绍的很详细,涨知识了

phil79 : 2007-02-28#43
好感谢楼主!这样的问题偶一直没明白!现在有各位的帮助,基本清楚了,谢谢大家!

莲子 : 2007-03-22#44
呵呵,我看明白了!

反正就是堂堂正正的告诉他们我可以合法打工。

不签合同不给出示工卡!

这儿的陷阱也不少啊!

kiwi : 2007-03-22#45
哦明白了,基本上不给人看的。找工作和领钱才用的上的。

还有,小孩有SIN卡吗?我记得短登时给儿子(8岁)办了的,为什么朋友给我们带回国的东西里面只有我们大人的,孩子的没有呢?

netyang : 2007-03-26#46
复杂哇

白桦林 : 2007-05-10#47
回复: 好像很多地方说到SIN卡不能随便给人看...

学习了,谢谢!

chat05 : 2009-03-15#48
回复: 好像很多地方说到SIN卡不能随便给人看...

我还有点疑问,比如报税时,那些会计事物所或华人服务机构都要sin卡号,也必须给吧

布什他哥 : 2009-03-15#49
回复: 好像很多地方说到SIN卡不能随便给人看...

我还有点疑问,比如报税时,那些会计事物所或华人服务机构都要sin卡号,也必须
是的.

joehe : 2009-03-15#50
回复: 好像很多地方说到SIN卡不能随便给人看...

学习了,挺复杂的.

manmanma : 2009-03-16#51
回复: 好像很多地方说到SIN卡不能随便给人看...

当你申请贷款 的PRE-APROVAL的时候,你要给人家看SIN卡!