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150元退税,税务局为啥又要回去了?

原文链接:https://forum.iask.ca/threads/94212/

决定了 : 2007-01-22#1
  前几天收到税务局的来信,说重新考虑了我家的收入税返还,并作出改变。最终结果是又把150元要回去了,还加上了利息。
  我的情况是2005年6月底短登,7月初返回,因为有银行收入,朋友帮我报了2005年的税。2006年7月,我和儿子长登至今。
  
  税务局信里说:As a non-resident of Canada whose principle source of income is from outside Canada,you can only claim certain non-refundable tax credits.

我的疑问是:2005年短登时都办理了各种手续,我还不能算resident吗?是不是税务局按当年12月31日你在不在加拿大来判断啊?

  我已经把150元和利息还回去了,可又怕税务局会不会弄错了,请明白的人说说看,也好给后来人提个醒,免得拿了不该拿的,到时候还得加上利息。

MAISIE : 2007-01-22#2
我觉得他们错了,
打个电话问问

西部羊仔 : 2007-01-22#3
税表上要填你2005年12月31日在哪里,填了温哥华?

下雨天 : 2007-01-22#4
按照税局的解释,他们已经把你认同为non-resident 了,所以认为你不能claim 那150块provincial or territorial credits.

又见飞刀 : 2007-01-22#5
短登就属于non-resident

hz85804540 : 2007-01-22#6
  前几天收到税务局的来信,说重新考虑了我家的收入税返还,并作出改变。最终结果是又把150元要回去了,还加上了利息。
  我的情况是2005年6月底短登,7月初返回,因为有银行收入,朋友帮我报了2005年的税。2006年7月,我和儿子长登至今。
  
  税务局信里说:As a non-resident of Canada whose principle source of income is from outside Canada,you can only claim certain non-refundable tax credits.

我的疑问是:2005年短登时都办理了各种手续,我还不能算resident吗?是不是税务局按当年12月31日你在不在加拿大来判断
啊?

  我已经把150元和利息还回去了,可又怕税务局会不会弄错了,请明白的人说说看,也好给后来人提个醒,免得拿了不该拿的,到时候还得加上利息。

resident
[FONT=宋体]的定义是生活在此和社会有一定的连系[/FONT][FONT=宋体]如租房[/FONT][FONT=宋体]水电[/FONT] Gas [FONT=宋体]电话[/FONT][FONT=宋体]手机[/FONT][FONT=宋体]等等等[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]税务局并没错[/FONT],
[FONT=宋体]不过你这是无意的[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]给了利息就好了[/FONT]
.
[FONT=宋体]最近有人钱藏银行保管箱[/FONT][FONT=宋体]申请了[/FONT] Founding [FONT=宋体]被查到了[/FONT].[FONT=宋体]已经被定为犯罪[/FONT],([FONT=宋体]诈欺政府金钱[/FONT])
[FONT=宋体]因为那是故意的[/FONT]

水门提督 : 2007-01-22#7
[FONT=宋体]最近有人钱藏银行保管箱[/FONT][FONT=宋体]申请了[/FONT] Founding [FONT=宋体]被查到了[/FONT].[FONT=宋体]已经被定为犯罪[/FONT],([FONT=宋体]诈欺政府金钱[/FONT])
[FONT=宋体]因为那是故意的[/FONT]

政府终于行动了.:wdb10:

palmer : 2007-01-22#8
这应该是好事情 公平的体现

carl_sun : 2007-01-22#9
好像你可以申请GST credit。

决定了 : 2007-01-22#10
给你们加声望,有的可以,有的不行,不知啥原因。谢谢你们的回复。

不是我的钱我也不想要,但现在的问题是,短登如果属于NON-RESIDENT的话,对我们今后的生活有没有影响,好像税务局的信里说更改我进入的日期,取消了老公的进入日期,因为老公短登后还没过来呢。

决定了 : 2007-01-22#11
这么说话多短登的移民申请了150元退税是不合法的,是吗?如果有朝一日被发现的话,会被要回去的,对吗?

hz85804540 : 2007-01-22#12
正确说法应是不合格。

黄河之水 : 2007-01-22#13
税表上要填你2005年12月31日在哪里,填了温哥华?

有吗?我的复印件上没找到。

cayenne : 2007-01-23#14
resident
[FONT=宋体]的定义是生活在此和社会有一定的连系[/FONT][FONT=宋体]如租房[/FONT][FONT=宋体]水电[/FONT] Gas [FONT=宋体]电话[/FONT][FONT=宋体]手机[/FONT][FONT=宋体]等等等[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]税务局并没错[/FONT],
[FONT=宋体]不过你这是无意的[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]给了利息就好了[/FONT]
.
[FONT=宋体]最近有人钱藏银行保管箱[/FONT][FONT=宋体]申请了[/FONT] Founding [FONT=宋体]被查到了[/FONT].[FONT=宋体]已经被定为犯罪[/FONT],([FONT=宋体]诈欺政府金钱[/FONT])
[FONT=宋体]因为那是故意的[/FONT]

Founding是啥意思啊?

六里台 : 2007-01-23#15
这种情况是,税务局曾经给你寄过一封信,要你报你去年收入的,可能是你朋友没有收到或者因为不是支票就扔掉了没给你

你要做的,就是去趟税务局,“质问”他们,他们会给你一个表让你添,然后把钱退给你

所谓短登不是resident是错误的。你已经是PR,有什么权力说自己不是resident?不光是resident,还是P的resident,完全有资格报税。你有权力选择报税与否,前提是你不欠税务局的钱,否则的话,就是你在天涯海角,也要报税,不然就是两条路:一、申请非税务居民;二、等着罚款...

决定了 : 2007-01-23#16
究竟税务局是对还是错啊?

又见飞刀 : 2007-01-23#17
所谓短登不是resident是错误的。你已经是PR,有什么权力说自己不是resident?不光是resident,还是P的resident,完全有资格报税。你有权力选择报税与否,前提是你不欠税务局的钱,否则的话,就是你在天涯海角,也要报税,不然就是两条路:一、申请非税务居民;二、等着罚款...

研究一下关于税务居民的定义。

Diamondmm : 2007-01-23#18
只是短登,入籍肯定受影响

六里台 : 2007-01-24#19
研究一下关于税务居民的定义。

Factual Residence -- Leaving Canada
Residential Ties In Canada
¶ 4. The most important factor to be considered in determining whether or not an individual leaving Canada remains resident in Canada for tax purposes is whether or not the individual maintains residential ties with Canada while he or she is abroad. While the residence status of an individual can only be determined on a case by case basis after taking into consideration all of the relevant facts, generally, unless an individual severs all significant residential ties with Canada upon leaving Canada, the individual will continue to be a factual resident of Canada and subject to Canadian tax on his or her worldwide income.

5. The residential ties of an individual that will almost always be significant residential ties for the purpose of determining residence status are the individual's

(a) dwelling place (or places),

(b) spouse or common-law partner, and

(c) dependants.

¶ 6. Where an individual who leaves Canada keeps a dwelling place in Canada (whether owned or leased), available for his or her occupation, that dwelling place will be considered to be a significant residential tie with Canada during the individual's stay abroad.

我认为,LZ朋友的地址也就是LZ在加拿大的地址,a dwelling place in Canada (whether owned or leased),这个可以和CRA argue。

lilianou : 2007-01-25#20
请参看以下链接:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tax/nonresidents/individuals/nonres-e.html

Don't forget this part:

Deemed non-residents
Effective after February 24, 1998, if you're a factual or deemed resident of Canada for tax purposes and a resident of another country according to a tax treaty Canada has signed with the other country, you may be considered a deemed non-resident of Canada. You become a deemed non-resident of Canada when your ties with the other country are such that, under the tax treaty, you're considered a resident there.

Note
If on February 24, 1998, you were already a resident of a country with which Canada has a tax treaty, you will not be considered a deemed non-resident of Canada. You will only be considered a deemed non-resident of Canada if after February 24, 1998:

you ceased to be a resident of the tax treaty country, then become a resident of that country again; or
you move from the tax treaty country and become a resident of another country with which Canada has a tax treaty.
The ordinary rules on ceasing to be a resident of Canada apply to deemed non-residents. For more information on the implication of ceasing to be a resident of Canada, see Guide T4056, Emigrants and Income Tax.

You may be a deemed non-resident for tax purposes if you're otherwise a deemed resident of Canada who, under a tax treaty, is considered a resident of another country.

As a deemed non-resident, the same rules apply to you as a non-resident of Canada.

六里台 : 2007-01-25#21
Then how does chinese government define a resident of China?

吉祥三宝 : 2007-02-03#22
resident
[FONT=宋体]的定义是生活在此和社会有一定的连系[/FONT][FONT=宋体]如租房[/FONT][FONT=宋体]水电[/FONT] Gas [FONT=宋体]电话[/FONT][FONT=宋体]手机[/FONT][FONT=宋体]等等等[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]税务局并没错[/FONT],
[FONT=宋体]不过你这是无意的[/FONT],[FONT=宋体]给了利息就好了[/FONT]
.
[FONT=宋体]最近有人钱藏银行保管箱[/FONT][FONT=宋体]申请了[/FONT] Founding [FONT=宋体]被查到了[/FONT].[FONT=宋体]已经被定为犯罪[/FONT],([FONT=宋体]诈欺政府金钱[/FONT])
[FONT=宋体]因为那是故意的[/FONT]

还是不太明白,是否银行有存款就不能申请退税呀? :wdb2: 这里的说法太多了,新来的实在搞不懂. :wdb24: 请明白人给解释一下.:wdb17:

决定了 : 2007-02-03#23
还是不太明白,是否银行有存款就不能申请退税呀? :wdb2: 这里的说法太多了,新来的实在搞不懂. :wdb24: 请明白人给解释一下.:wdb17:

 如果你是长登的话,不用担心。这里主要是指短登的移友,如果短登一下就走,没有买房等,将被定义为NON-RESIDENT,这样就不能申请退税。

galaxy : 2007-02-03#24
如果是短登就属于Non-Resident,是不必要报税的,即使你报了税,政府退税给你,也会连本带息一起要回的。